Burning out so fast.

So, I played FFXIV a long, long time ago when ARR first launched. Got a Monk to level 38ish, but got bored and quit for years. Came back, and I've leveled a bunch of classes to ~15-18. But, after being back for less than two weeks, I'm already starting to burn out pretty hardcore. I love the story, the music is amazing, I like the world, but the combat is just so painfully slow and simple.

Does the combat pick up later on in the game?

I'm just kind of lost. I play League with my brother and his friends, but I don't enjoy it playing alone. So I need an MMO with good PvE, and at least passable PvP. I used to play WoW (played for 12+ years), but I just don't have much fun with it now that they've simplified it so much. I absolutely love GW2, and the raids in it are super fun, but no one pugs anything, and there's not a lot to do outside of the raids. I tried TERA, BnS and the like, I tried Wildstar (I liked it, but it died), and all that.

FFXIV is kind of my last hope.

The combat is really slow at early levels, but it gets busier the more off cooldown abilities you'll get. Especially the Heavensward (level 60) rotations keep melees and ranged DDs busy (in fact the rotations of some jobs have gotten so complicated they're planning to simplify them for next expansion). Maybe check out some gameplay videos for level 60 melees and ranged classes and see if there are any that seem to appeal to you?

Yes they get more intense once you start doing raids. At lvl 60 can get intense depending on how well you know your job and co operate with others. While you can play solo, I love playing solo, you will need to make some strong connections later on for Savage raids and such.

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Originally Posted by Taika

The combat is really slow at early levels, but it gets busier the more off cooldown abilities you'll get. Especially the Heavensward (level 60) rotations keep melees and ranged DDs busy (in fact the rotations of some jobs have gotten so complicated they're planning to simplify them for next expansion). Maybe check out some gameplay videos for level 60 melees and ranged classes and see if there are any that seem to appeal to you?

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This is absolutely it. I would recommend sticking with FFXIV and trying to push your way past 50 with at least one class. The GCD isn't as noticeable when you have more off GDC skills and other things to pay attention to. Whether tank, dps or heals, the game starts to become more intense as you branch into the content unlocked at end game, especially if you're interested in raids. Perhaps enlist a friend to help you speed up the process and lower the combat curve.

Yeah what they said. I had to level 4 jobs to 60 before I found the one that fits me the best. I actually enjoyed ALL of them but settled on my favorite. Here's a suggestion. Pick a job. Go do Palace Of The Dead. It is great exp and you get a fair idea of how a class will play at 60. Keep in mind everything about a class changes when you get to 30 and get your Job. So experiment with both. i.e. Rogue was great, ninja not so much fun (for me)

The rotations and skill amount(s) pretty much double when you get over 50, with the few classes I have gotten over. Combat definitely gets more interesting. You could also try playing a faster class like Archer or something. I am leveling one now.

Yeah that's kinda the problem in your first sentence you never gotten a class over lv 50 where the fun starts when it comes to combat so just hang in there and get your monk to lv 60 and see how it is then monk and dragoon has some of the most complex rotations so it should not be boring at 60 :P

Wow you really did get bored fast. You're kind of in the tutorial phase of the game. The real experience hasn't even started. They are thinking about offering a level skip in the future for you to buy. Instantly skipping to high-level rotations is just the thing for short attention span people.

Level 50 plus for most jobs is where it does get better.
I see you are from Leviathan, feel free to contact me i would be willing to help you out if needed.
PVP in this game may not be good like other games as it is not it's main focus but is passable.

I will answer this short and simple for you. FFXIV does not compare to the combat from the other games you have mentioned. Even so it gets a bit "faster" at 50+, FFXIV isn't a action combat based mmo and never meant to be. But that doesn't mean it's a bad game, and you will find plenty of stuff to do during your "free time", however the moment you're comparing it to the games named above or even others, you will end up very disappointed because FFXIV is nothing like any of these and it's defiantly not f2p :)

With that out of the way and since you're more focused on the actual end game, or at least that's what I am assuming since you're comparing the game to other fast action combat games, try this :

Do MSQ & Side Quests till level 20, from than on out ignore the side quests and do MSQ only. At level 17 you're able to unlock palace of the dead, you could theoretically level your character in there since it's faster than doing all the other things but if you have no level 50 or 60 character, it's less exp than you would get with having at least 1 class at 50/60 due to the armoury bonus. You can get to level 50 within 3 days doing just MSQ and around 6 days getting to 60. With potd and not having a character 50/60 it will be around 4.5 days to 50 and around 7 days to 60. Then you would have to catch up on all MSQ and Job quests and that would probably take another 3-4 days in comparison (if your play time is something around 12+ hrs a day) and you end up slower than just using any other method outside of potd but it's an option and you might not get burned out as quickly. Just my 2cents.

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Originally Posted by LunaFaye

At level 17 you're able to unlock palace of the dead, you could theoretically level your character in there since it's faster than doing all the other things but if you have no level 50 or 60 character, it's less exp than you would get with having at least 1 class at 50/60 due to the armoury bonus.

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Having a class at 50 or 60 has nothing to do with the armoury bonus, which only looks at whether you have a class higher than your current one, not at whether that higher class has reached any particular threshold. The real reason for focusing on the MSQ first is (as you mentioned later) that you'd need to go back and do it anyway if you didn't start there.

The whole game is structured around its storyline. All the level 50 and above content is gated behind finishing the original ARR MSQ. All Heavensward content is gated behind finishing the additional MSQ added in the 2.x patches. Then a lot of the level 60 content is gated behind the Heavensward MSQ (though I'm not sure if it's everything, like it is with level 50). And when Stormblood comes out, it will be gated behind the Heavensward and 3.x MSQ.

So, focus on the Main Scenario and any sidequests that have the plus sign in the bottom corner of the icon indicating they unlock features or content. Whenever those don't give you enough XP to continue, look to other XP sources, which can be Palace of the Dead, additional dungeon runs, or whatever. (Once a day, leveling roulette is really good for that, and if you're doing that with your main job it should provide all the additional XP you'd need.)

Like the others have said, you're not even at the good portion of the game yet. Just hang in there and keep leveling.

I'm in a static that is doing the savage raids, and I'd say it's anything but slow. Ive wanted rip my hair out numerous times because of it lol (in a good way?). Raiding in XIV is worth the work imho

I say just do the Main Story quests, honestly, because you will get to 60 by doing through alone with the dungeons you will unlock.

Just hang in there, i believe in cha. :3

There's your problem. \o/ Why you farting around in the low levels for so long? @_@ They will eat your soul. I started to get burn out, someone advised me to stop trying to accomplish everything, stop leveling everything. Get your butt through to end game on a Job you enjoy. That doesn't mean rush to end game. Once you're geared up there's not much to do after that lol. But working through story and focusing on optimizing your chosen Job makes it feel more rewarding, because you have a goal to work towards. Flailing around in the low levels will just make you feel lost, I saved it for when I ran out of story to do. :3

FFXIV is the Easy WoW to me, and I actually have come to like it for that. So if you honestly think WoW is too simple, you're not going to be able to stand the gameplay in FFXIV. FFXIV is for those that can immerse themselves in everything but gameplay, sorry to say. I will say that positional attacks on melee make things more interesting, but lately it's just become needless complexity and largely incompatible with several encounters. About 5% or less of the game is difficult to the point of strong controversy, so it's not like there's literally nothing challenging, but it's a relatively small thing.

Anyway, this isn't to say enjoying a game primarily for its gameplay is wrong. Some games, like LoL, are far better as "just games" as I call them. But I'm just saying you should focus on enjoying other aspects in this game.

Sorry to hijack slightly but by combat getting more fun at 50 do you mean having more things to click on the skill bar?

There is that, but encounters themselves become more complex. Positioning, timing of abilities and situational awareness are all factors that increase importance the higher in level you go. At the the beginning of the game combat isn't much more than target this and mash DPS buttons. The higher you go the more likely that behavior will get you (and possibly everyone in your party) killed. The game very slowly eases you into more complex combat, but combat in a lvl 60 raid has little resemblance to Satasha.

Literally every job sucks at a low level, this game largely relies on you to be gripped into the story enough for you not to notice until it's already too late lol.

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Originally Posted by Naria

There is that, but encounters themselves become more complex. Positioning, timing of abilities and situational awareness are all factors that increase importance the higher in level you go. At the the beginning of the game combat isn't much more than target this and mash DPS buttons. The higher you go the more likely that behavior will get you (and possibly everyone in your party) killed. The game very slowly eases you into more complex combat, but combat in a lvl 60 raid has little resemblance to Satasha.

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How does having lots of extra skills to click work with a controller? I am liking this more than other mmo's I have played mainly because of how easy to use a controller is so far, it allows me to play it like a normal final fantasy game so far.

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Originally Posted by Rik_Ardossia

How does having lots of extra skills to click work with a controller?

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Controller works fine for any job in terms of using skills if you use Hold Crossbar and W Crossbar. It only suffers slightly for SMN/SCH if you want to min/max your pet's movement.

However Controller does suffer a bit in PVP due to the extra actions.

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Controller works fine for any job in terms of using skills if you use Hold Crossbar and W Crossbar. It only suffers slightly for SMN/SCH if you want to min/max your pet's movement.

However Controller does suffer a bit in PVP due to the extra actions.

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Hold and W crossbar? sorry just really new to this.

Under System->Character Configuration->Hotbars->Cross and ->Custom there are a variety of hotbar settings. For instance I have it set that while my weapon is drawn taping R1 will swap between Cross hotbar 1 and 2, pressing L2 and then R2 and holding will bring up the left side of cross hotbar 3, pressing R2 and then holding L2 will bring up the right side of hotbar 3 and double tapping R3 or L3 will bring up the face button sets for the right or left sides of cross hotbar 5.

Sharing hotbars means that hotbar will be shared aross all job/classes while unsharing them means that whatever you set for them will be specific to that job/class (I have cross hotbar 4 shared).

I'd also check out the filter section under Character Config to customize how and what you can target in and out of combat. I do play SCH as my main and while it can be slightly slower for me to control where I place my pet when I'm on my PS4 that's the only disadvantage I've noticed to using the controller vs a mouse and KB.

Before I got into this game weeks ago I heard people say how slow the combat is. It turns out I like how it is and while it may seem "slow", all the skill rotations needed seems very fast-paced to me which makes can make things overwhelming at times, unlike Wildstar where you only had to manage one hotbar of skills. Each class seems to manage 3 hotbars which is a bit nuts and makes the combat seem more fast and busy to me. But to each their own - some may find this game has slow combat and may or may not like it. It's kind of nice not to be spammed with enemy telegraphs all the time haha.

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Is switching between hotbars a controller only thing or do you have to do it with mouse and keyboard too? be much easier to just have more skills displayed on screen.

I play on PC and have 3 hotbars visible on screen with all the keys bound to something i can hit on the keyboard or with the mouse. I also know that theres a command i can use to switch bars, but ive got enough space on 3 for what i use in combat(and a couple important out-of-combat skills too). Switching like Naria is describing is a controller thing, because you only have a few buttons you can use to input commands.

Thx il start using mouse and keyboard now then :)