[Dev Request] More Patron Dieties

I think it would be cool if the upcoming expansion expanded on the patron diety feature. Personally as an Au Ra I would like to make the Dawn Father my diety. I'm also very curious as to what other gods the new city states beyond Eorzea might worship. Another suggestion I have is to remove the stat bonuses assosiated with them, and somehow make it so that the chosen diety is visibly obvious. Perhaps on the forums, or when you look at another characters outfit, and grand company rank. Diety exclusive emotes and equipment might also be fun to persue.

As much as it would be cool, no.

And that is simply to keep the aspect of the twelve, the sacred, godly, twelve, intact. They are the gods.

And even going by the existing lore and hints we've seen of the Othard steppes, The dawn father might just happen to be a corruption of one of the twelve. Or he could have been an allagan that in ages past crossbred something into the Au Ra, much like the Ixal reveres an allagan flying squadron(?) as their goddess, Garuda. The Au Ra have their "Azim" steppe which only tells me that the twelve have been around othard for a very long time. Im sure we will learn more of this in the expantion.

The world of hydaelyn shows that there are only twelve gods. They may go under different names in different regions, but the number is twelve.

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Originally Posted by Enur

As much as it would be cool, no.

And that is simply to keep the aspect of the twelve, the sacred, godly, twelve, intact. They are the gods.

And even going by the existing lore and hints we've seen of the Othard steppes, The dawn father might just happen to be a corruption of one of the twelve. Or he could have been an allagan that in ages past crossbred something into the Au Ra, much like the Ixal reveres an allagan flying squadron(?) as their goddess, Garuda. The Au Ra have their "Azim" steppe which only tells me that the twelve have been around othard for a very long time. Im sure we will learn more of this in the expantion.

The world of hydaelyn shows that there are only twelve gods. They may go under different names in different regions, but the number is twelve.

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That's just a theory.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

That's just a theory.

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A GAME Theory.

Pun aside, I wouldn't mind if the 12 were more prominent to the story in some manner. Halone has an entire city-state worshiping her more or less, for example, and that adds some intriguing flavor. However, her, 'Priests,' are more or less just Conjurers. I wouldn't mind seeing a new Healer class based around the 12 which delved into their lore and separated them from Primals somehow.

"As an Au Ra" Weren't you a cat two weeks ago? Also, the deity aspect can be ignored, RPers ignore it and fill the void with their own deity or beliefs in their own lore. The game doesn't need to be cluttered with more fluff content like deity-exclusive emotes.

...I actually like how this game is NOT about religion or if it is, it shows more of the dark sides of it - as in: Primals, Ishgard.
The whole Primal-problem revolves around worshipping gods and you, as Warrior of Light, as someone who might be close to a god himself by now (remember Thordans words...!) want to go out there, carrying your worship and slaughtering GODS of other beliefes? Yeah, I dont think so...

If you'd looked closely into the lore you'd know that the whole point of the twelve not being that present is because it might turn them into primals - and no one wants that. When it comes to this matter, you're the Warrior of Light, not an Au Ra.

(Also: While Halone is ofc very present in Ishgard, a lot of other citystates have their special god too - Nald'Thal in Ul'dah, Nophica in Gridania, Thaliak in Sharlayan...)

while I wouldn't want them to be really prominent in the expansion's storyline, I would for them to be at least talked about more. It kind of just seems like they are an afterthought to most people. I would just like a bit more presence through the people that apparently worships them.

There's also the theory that the Dawn and Night parents might actually be the dragons siblings of Bahamut and Tiamat. But the real point is, only the twelve were actual deities and even then I have my doubts they were ACTUALLY divine. I'm feeling more and more the twelve were just warriors of light that ended up in the past.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

"As an Au Ra" Weren't you a cat two weeks ago? Also, the deity aspect can be ignored, RPers ignore it and fill the void with their own deity or beliefs in their own lore. The game doesn't need to be cluttered with more fluff content like deity-exclusive emotes.

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Being a cat two weeks ago doesn't make it any less valid.

I've gotten the impression that the twelve are nothing special at all. Basically primals of the "enlightened" races, and no more actual gods than Ifrit or Ramuh are. The closest thing the FFXIV universe has to an actual deity is Hydaelyn (and Zodiark).

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Originally Posted by Singularity

I've gotten the impression that the twelve are nothing special at all. Basically primals of the "enlightened" races, and no more actual gods than Ifrit or Ramuh are. The closest thing the FFXIV universe has to an actual deity is Hydaelyn (and Zodiark).

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Same feeling, would be fun to actually got them summoned to fight them ^^
Can't we pick a Primal instead ? I want to be a Sophia follower *.*
Or Ramuh, I like the peacefull idea.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Being a cat two weeks ago doesn't make it any less valid.

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In my eyes, it does, because you could be a Hyur two weeks from now, and then a Miqo'te two months after that, would you still believe in the Dawn Father then and there?

I would like them to do more with the gods that we have, than I would like to see new gods added. The only in-game effect of one's deity I've seen up to this point is a decoration if you choose to get married. Well, that and a totally inconsequential elemental resistance modification that was likely a holdover from 1.0.

I want to see NPCs that say different thing to you depending on your deity. I want to see areas that provide special opportunities if you happen to be a worshiper of the right kind, like salesmen that will only sell to worshipers of Nophica, or whatever. Dungeons, where you need to be the right faith to access certain completely optional areas. That kind of thing.

This particular aspect of character creation feels woefully underutilized to me, and I hope that it improves in the future.

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Originally Posted by Singularity

I've gotten the impression that the twelve are nothing special at all. Basically primals of the "enlightened" races, and no more actual gods than Ifrit or Ramuh are. The closest thing the FFXIV universe has to an actual deity is Hydaelyn (and Zodiark).

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This is the conclusion I've come to as well. The story so far has shown that the faith in The Twelve can be just as devastating, if not more, than the beastmen's worship of their primals. They are all the same. That's why I would be ok with more deity options and would also like to request the option to not have a patron deity at all.

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Originally Posted by Singularity

I've gotten the impression that the twelve are nothing special at all. Basically primals of the "enlightened" races, and no more actual gods than Ifrit or Ramuh are. The closest thing the FFXIV universe has to an actual deity is Hydaelyn (and Zodiark).

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I'd prefer the 12 being actual Deities than being Primals, personally.

That doesn't mean primals couldn't be made of the concept of the 12, but the 12 themselves should be Gods, which I wouldn't mind seeing reflected somehow. Like I mentioned earlier, I would not mind seeing Priest or Cleric added as a healing job in the next expansion, focusing on the worship of the 12. Perhaps some archaeological excavation or an island somewhere is found, and there are either records or living people who worship the twelve and wield their power. Perhaps the Soul Crystals for these jobs are referred to as, 'Magicite,' a crystallized manifestation of the link between mortal and deity. The specific crystal you get is linked to the God you chose as your Guardian Deity on character creation, and would be linked to a for-fun, aesthetic kind of ability, or a minion.

Considering the Twelve bring absolutely zilch to the table in terms of gameplay bar minute changes to elemental resistance (which mean nothing), what will adding more deities to the game do besides complicate existing lore which most RPers are going to ignore anyway?

If you want to have the Dawn Father as your Guardian deity, go right ahead? What do you need the devs to justify that with a title for?

I understand why someone would want something like this, but seriously I rather not have more fluff that has no meaning to the game. The whole choose a deity thing is pointless & adds nothing to the game unless your a roleplayer and game apretty much favors roleplayers it is. I'm sure in 1.0 that Tanaka had plans to do something with the twelvem but what those plans were have obviously been scraped. Though it would be nice to see your character pray to said god of choice for immersion purposes (a special emote and maybe gain a small buff), but for a game that FEELS like it barely embraces its lore? (and leaves you to read about it instead of experiencing it in the game?) I'm sorry but this would add nothing to the game.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

"As an Au Ra" Weren't you a catte two weeks ago? Also, the deity aspect can be ignored, RPers ignore it and fill the void with their own deity or beliefs in their own lore. The game doesn't need to be cluttered with more fluff content like deity-exclusive emotes.

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Fixed that for you!

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Originally Posted by Singularity

I've gotten the impression that the twelve are nothing special at all. Basically primals of the "enlightened" races, and no more actual gods than Ifrit or Ramuh are. The closest thing the FFXIV universe has to an actual deity is Hydaelyn (and Zodiark).

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<3 that char design, as an aside.