Dev Request - Dislike button for Forum posts.

So, many people who view the forum don't post but still might like to provide feedback on an issue or suggestion. We already have the option for people to like posts, thus providing instant (and anonymous) feedback that they support an idea. Wouldn't it be only fair for people to be able to show their lack of support in such a manner as well? It could be very interesting. Please consider and thanks for all feedback to this idea, both for and against!

Nah. The way it is now, if something is dumb, we have to let the OP now by posting and bumping it to the top. Soon, we have 8 pages of posts telling the OP how wrong they are, instead of simply downvoting it into oblivion! Much better, obviously.

I hate both "like" and "dislike" buttons and would prefer to have neither. They serve no purpose here outside of voting in contests.

Problem with disliking button is the little closed nit groups that form on the forums, any forums really. If one person doesn't like an opinion or the person in general they would have their little "friends" down vote it for them outta spite. Basically the more people who are in these closed nit groups the worst it will be to actually summit something because it is already doomed to be voted down by these people before it even starts.

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Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi

So, many people who view the forum don't post but still might like to provide feedback on an issue or suggestion. We already have the option for people to like posts, thus providing instant (and anonymous) feedback that they support an idea. Wouldn't it be only fair for people to be able to show their lack of support in such a manner as well? It could be very interesting. Please consider and thanks for all feedback to this idea, both for and against!

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it used to have a dislike button, they got rid of it. People abused the feature to perma ban people they disliked by down voting then mass reporting posts.

People just gotta learn how to ignore posts. If you keep responding it stays alive.

Everything on the forums would be in the negatives.

Blizzard's CMs just had a thing about downvoting on their forums and they're talking about getting rid of it.

Basically it doesn't provide feedback except in the form of mob mentality silencing unpopular opinions. Has very little to do with the quality of a post and more to do with the hivemind not liking either the ideas or even just the poster. Not a useful system.

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Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi

So, many people who view the forum don't post but still might like to provide feedback on an issue or suggestion. We already have the option for people to like posts, thus providing instant (and anonymous) feedback that they support an idea. Wouldn't it be only fair for people to be able to show their lack of support in such a manner as well? It could be very interesting. Please consider and thanks for all feedback to this idea, both for and against!

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Ironic, the person that needs the dislike posts is you, I remember you going at me for no reason before. People like you are the reason it does not exist, since you be marking things you simply disagree on, and not marking them for troll/ harassment/ etc.

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Originally Posted by BigRed5392

it used to have a dislike button, they got rid of it. People abused the feature to perma ban people they disliked by down voting then mass reporting posts.

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That seems more like a lazy implementation or poor moderation than an actual issue with downvote buttons. That said, I'm indifferent to this addition. I prefer to engage in healthy discourse even if I disagree with a topic, rather than push a button and provide no honest feedback. If there were a guarantor that it would be used in a manner to which Reddit aspired - to hide trollish or unconstructive posts/comments - I'd like it, but as Reddit has proven no one holds the feature to that sort of personal standard and instead uses it to enforce groupthink hiveminds.

For the listed above reasons I don't think it will be an useful addition to the community - it'll just make it a less peaceful (than it already is) place to exist, besides I think its better people have to respond to things they dislike because others (and devs) could see their reasons.. if those reasons are any good / bad or even if perhaps they can use those reasons in conjunction with other ideas to make their own version of a solution better (in their mind).

Dislike is more just for people to feel good that they're dog piling someone / the person they think is dumb is dumb to other people too (while not always mob mentality, and not suggesting that's why you want it, it is still a great place for the mob mentality to exist, and people part of the hive, imo, are usually less logical and reasonable ones to listen to - even if technically the hive is correct).

Could always add a way to respond without bumping the thread though lol, if you didn't want to help keep it alive but still provide feedback on the perspective (disagreement):P.

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

Ironic, the person that needs the dislike posts is you, I remember you going at me for no reason before. People like you are the reason it does not exist, since you be marking things you simply disagree on, and not marking them for troll/ harassment/ etc.

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Don't flatter yourself, I did have reason beyond I didn't like your suggestion and even tried to offer some helpful advice.

On topic, I see the point of having the so called 'hive mind' downvoting things out of spite. Perhaps if it were implemented correctly it could be useful? I envisioned dislikes being the exact same as likes, nothing can happen based on them besides showing how many people like or dislike a post. And yes, the multiple pages of debate are fun so perhaps if it reduces the page count that could be a bad thing ;P

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Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi

Don't flatter yourself, I did have reason beyond I didn't like your suggestion and even tried to offer some helpful advice.

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You did not, all you did was attack and insult me because you did not like what I said on an issue that needs addressing, unlike your idea that is not needed and proven not to work.

As long as the two are separate, it seems like it could be useful. Better that they show that the post is controversial when likes and dislikes each show a hundred thumbs, than the post seemingly having never been voted on (due to their balance of 0).

But there are many other things I'd rather see first, like better reply nesting, private messages, etc.

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Originally Posted by Callinon

Blizzard's CMs just had a thing about downvoting on their forums and they're talking about getting rid of it.

Basically it doesn't provide feedback except in the form of mob mentality silencing unpopular opinions. Has very little to do with the quality of a post and more to do with the hivemind not liking either the ideas or even just the poster. Not a useful system.

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This person gets it, but want to slightly elaborate more:

Disliking doesn't require the need to refute or debate a given topic as to why an individual(s) think something is bad or faulty. While liking means you adhere to a certain suggestion, you can hope that someone worded their idea so it doesn't need much elaborating. The forums would become less forum and more poll.

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Originally Posted by BigRed5392

it used to have a dislike button, they got rid of it. People abused the feature to perma ban people they disliked by down voting then mass reporting posts.

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Actually there has never been a dislike button, not even in the Beta forums for 2.0

Nah. How it usually works is this:

Person A posts opinion.

Person B posts contrary opinion and tells A how dumb it is.

Whichever one gets more likes, you can use that to gauge similar feelings. Adding a dislike button would just result in a Blizzard effect and make these forums that much worse.

I don't want a dislike button. If a topic has gotten enough views or posts then the amount of likes alone is telling enough as to whether or not the idea is popular. A dislike button only gives people more reason to be obnoxious to people they dislike/disagree with and I'd rather not give those personalities any more fodder.

Yes I would like to dislike the OP's post.

I doubt the devs have anything to do with the forums, pretty sure that taken care of by a different team.

It's generally not a good idea. Just go to any site like reddit to see how abused it is. I wish upvote/downvote options were eliminated entirely. I feel it is a system of favoritism, and a big reason why I don't pay any attention to it. You can always just ignore a post, or poster.

It is a good suggestion! I support !

When you object OP suggestion, why not just press the DISLIKE button then save everyone time! ^^;

And now you can dislike me if we have it.

Please no, I hate forums that use dislike -system.

I was very active poster on World of Warcraft forums, and pretty much ended my activity there completely when they added dislike -system there. People just hiding behind their "thumb down" -button instead of giving any sort of counter-arguments.