Dev Request: Glamour Collection Feature

I think that the game would benefit from a Glamour Collection Feature which stores the appearances of gear which will free up inventory and will make glamouring gear faster.

I have been playing WoW Legion and am very impressed with their "transmog" appearance collection feature. Anytime an appearance is obtained from a piece of gear it automatically unlocks under the "appearances" tab. There is no need to keep the item because the appearance is permanently unlocked so it does not take up inventory slots.

FFXIV is very centered around the glamour system as a means to motivate players to do seasonal events and go back to older content. I really do think the player base would highly enjoy this feature and would drive people to collect all the glamour pieces without fear of running out of inventory. I hope the development team at some point in the future decides to implement a similar feature.


*I know someone will probably say they will never develop a system like this since extra retainers is a source of revenue but might as well put the idea out there if it isn't already*

I see the thing with retainers but also I still use 6 retainers and they aren't necessarily packed with gear for glamour, one of them has a ton of weapons I'll never use though, primal stuff, so I still think your idea is valid, maybe make weapon appearances not saved but armours could be saved to this new system? Though I guess then people would wonder why not both. I'm sure a team looking for the pro's and cons of this could find solutions fairly easily.

Worst case scenario SE could make the feature a small extra sub cost. For example an extra retainer is £1.15 or 1.40 euro, maybe the new feature would be a flat £3 per month or something. I still think the idea is more efficient than multiple retainers regardless and has more impact on the inventory issues of FF, so I'd say worth the cost personally.

I'd like to see them replace the armoire system with something like gw2's account wardrobe or wildstar's holowardrobe.

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Originally Posted by Shizmaz

Worst case scenario...

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STOP GIVING THEM IDEAS

This is suggested every couple of weeks and has been asked to Yoshi P before. His response back then was that they weren't working on it and they would be looking to expand inventory over looking at a wardrobe system.

That was a while ago though so things might have changed. Its worth mentioning though that such systems seem to take a while to create. WoW took about 3-4 years from when they first mentioned they were working on it to actually releasing it.

As Belhi said, the current stance seems to be that increasing Inventory Space is their preferred solution. In the immortal words of Zoidberg...

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I don't think they'll add any solution that would free a ton of space. The more inventory problems you have means its more likely that you'll spend money on retainers. If anything, I'm surprised retainers are still account based and not per character.

Yeah, the wardrobe in WoW is better than FFXIV's system hands down, even if we don't consider inventory space. It just makes life a lot simpler and is much more convenient. Right now, WoW's transmog system is basically superior to FFXIV's in every way, and SE should really take a look at importing its core features–permanent appearance storage, storing different transmog profiles, and spec dependent (class dependent for this game) transmogs.

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Originally Posted by Roda

I'd like to see them replace the armoire system with something like gw2's account wardrobe or wildstar's holowardrobe.


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Yes to all of this.

GW2 has a fantastic system and would love to have something similar.

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Originally Posted by Roda

I'd like to see them replace the armoire system with something like gw2's account wardrobe or wildstar's holowardrobe.

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Me too really, both those systems worked well, fast, easy and no-where near as bulky and bloated as the system here is. It's in dire need of an overhaul especially since the game throws new transmog items at players every random event and main patches. Additionally I really would adore if they worked in a system similar to Wildstar's housing system where un-used furnishings go to a housing storage crate.

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Originally Posted by Belhi

His response back then was that they weren't working on it and they would be looking to expand inventory over looking at a wardrobe system

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I honestly believe they never will work on it simply because they can't come up with a lore behind it that would make sense. While the lore for retainers and storage is established. Since here every basic MMO function is locked behind some form of lore.

Bank storage retainer: Lore
Armor Dye: Lore
Transmogging: Lore
Housing: Lore
Character re-customization: Lore

Yes I'm happily in the boat of those that would gladly throw any lore reason out the window for convenience, QoL, and more streamlined systems.

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Originally Posted by Aylis

I honestly believe they never will work on it simply because they can't come up with a lore behind it that would make sense. While the lore for retainers and storage is established. Since here every basic MMO function is locked behind some form of lore.

Bank storage retainer: Lore
Armor Dye: Lore
Transmogging: Lore
Housing: Lore
Character re-customization: Lore

Yes I'm happily in the boat of those that would gladly throw any lore reason out the window for convenience, QoL, and more streamlined systems.

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It's not hard to justify these sorts of things when magic exists. You could just be given a magical tome and at the cost of the item in question (or perhaps just some catalyst) you could imprint its aetheric signature in the tome for later use. Highlighting the magical qualities of the tome, it seems that it always has just the number of pages you need.

WildStar's holowardrobe, Rift's wardrobe storage, WoW's transmog collections, GW2's account wardrobe... So many examples of this and it works beautifully. Meanwhile, my two retainers, amoury, and inventory are bursting at the seams with glamour gear stored for all the different jobs. :/ SE's more interested in renting out inventory like the cruddiest of cruddy f2p mmos than truly fixing the problem though - at least it sure seems that way sometimes.

DCUO had the best system for this. Simply obtain the gear, BOOM, the appearance is saved. No item needed, nothing.

Technical reasons prevent SE from doing a glamour "closet" the way we'd like... but that doesn't mean an alternative couldn't be implemented within existing game code.

What if there was a Glamour Vendor that worked the same way the Calamity Vendor does. Any item appearance you have acquired gets unlocked on this vendor so you can use the appearance, get rid of the original item, and re-buy a binding (non-tradeable/non-sellable) version of it from the Glamour Vendor any time you need to re-glamour. In this way an existing mechanic is used (the calamity vendor code) and we aren't forced to tie up precious inventory space with our glamour gear.

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

It's not hard to justify these sorts of things when magic exists. You could just be given a magical tome and at the cost of the item in question (or perhaps just some catalyst) you could imprint its aetheric signature in the tome for later use. Highlighting the magical qualities of the tome, it seems that it always has just the number of pages you need.

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I'll take that as a reason. That works for me. I had thought of a thing like a closet in a house or apartment or inn room as an alternative. For housing storage, attic time.

It'd be nice to have really but they keep going on about inventory space.. What bothers me more is we know they can do it to a degree as they've just gone and done it with the PvP Garo Gear on the Calamity Salvager..

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Originally Posted by Naunet

SE's more interested in renting out inventory like the cruddiest of cruddy f2p mmos than truly fixing the problem though - at least it sure seems that way sometimes.

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That's the one thing that's always kinda irked me about this game. Even in FTP games, if I buy extra storage, it's mine forever regardless if I'm active or inactive for short or long periods of time. It will always be there waiting for me to come back. As far as I know FFXIV is the only game that rents space as part of a monthly fee. It's always left this really sour and bad taste in my mouth.

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

It's not hard to justify these sorts of things when magic exists. You could just be given a magical tome and at the cost of the item in question (or perhaps just some catalyst) you could imprint its aetheric signature in the tome for later use. Highlighting the magical qualities of the tome, it seems that it always has just the number of pages you need.

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I'll present the compromise:

Fashionista
The Quest

Redolent Rose gives you a quest involving the imminent coming of a world-famous fashion guru. Someone who seems to have a reputation for turning complete fashion disasters into the epitome of chic and style with very little effort. Your task is to ensure the fashionista makes it from the airship landing in Ul'dah all the way to the weaver's guild, as she has a tendency of getting...distracted by the commonfolk.

You run to the airship landing to find Lola, assistant to the fashionista, who is in a panic since the fashionista herself vanished not long after landing in Ul'dah. So now you have to run around the city looking to find her. You can tell where she's been by interacting with NPCs that have peculiar outfits who comment about how they were saved by the fashionista. This eventually leads you to a cutscene of a group of people being lectured by a teenage girl in a gothic lolita outfit. When you intervene, she makes a comment about your own lack of fashion sense and introduces herself as Brygid.

Brygid sees something in you that she calls a "potential long term project", and when your character acts confused, she waves off your concerns and demands to be taken to Redolent Rose at the Weaver's Guild. When you get there, you have a conversation explaining that Brygid was contracted by one of Ul'dah's merchant families (Lola comes running in mid-cutscene, and it's made pretty clear Brygid doesn't think much of her assistant).

After the business is done, Brygid declares you a walking fashion disaster, and one that will take a long time to sort out. As such, she offers her services at a discounted price, so that she ensures that you don't embarrass yourself. Lola steps in to explain that for Brygid to harness her creative energies, she requires her clients to have a wardrobe of their own. Part of the service would include recording and storing items traded to Brygid, keeping a sort of log of all visible equipment you own and/or have acquired. The service also includes use of glamour prisms to ensure you're up to date on your fashion by storing glamour prisms for you or applying glamour effects on your equipped items at a cost.

The System

- Brygid can be summoned using the same bell you use to summon Jandelaine. You'll have the choices of summoning Jandelaine or Brygid when interacting with the bell.
- Unlike Jandelaine, Brygid will charge you 250 gil per time she is summoned. She'd call this a "consultation fee".
- You can trade equipment you want on your "glamour log" to Brygid. You may also store glamour prisms for each type of equipment by trading those to Brygid. Items stored are essentially lost forever, and will be set to their original color. Glamour prisms that are stored will be consumed as you apply glamour on your equipment.
- If you don't have a glamour prism on your inventory or storage, Brygid will still be able to apply a glamour, but charge you 10,000 gil per application.
- Dyes are applied during the glamour process; the dyes themselves must be in your inventory during the glamour process.
- The order would be: Pick item to be glamoured => get a prompt saying "Would you like to apply a dye to this glamour?" => finalize and glamour your chosen item.
- There would obviously be achievements for having Brygid log a certain number of items, with title rewards like "the Fashion-conscious" for trading 20 pieces of equipment to Brygid.
- In addition to all this, you may still keep items on your inventory to glamour on your own with the currently-existing system.