If their are going to be new mentor requirements can you let us know please SE?

I dont keep up with all the patch notes and things of that nature are read all the live letters etc. But I do have a request SE if you could please let us know what the new mentor requirements will be assuming that with another expansion out the way they would be increased.

I hope that you can tell those whom want to continue being mentors to new players so that they can keep and maintain their status. Again this is just an assumption that they will change, but Id be surprised if they didn't, so please if you could will you let the player base know so that we can start preparing ourselves.

The mentor system was, largely, already a failure. There is no metric they can automate that actually determines a "Mentor's" competence level or willingness to teach or inform. The best they can do is just let just about anyone who wants to be one, be one (IE, what the current system does) and just hope the good eggs outnumber the bad.

I'm assuming requirements will jump up 10 levels, doesn't make sense to be a mentor if you're missing 10 levels of progression of those roles/jobs.

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Originally Posted by GMERC

The mentor system was, largely, already a failure. There is no metric they can automate that actually determines a "Mentor's" competence level or willingness to teach or inform. The best they can do is just let just about anyone who wants to be one, be one (IE, what the current system does) and just hope the good eggs outnumber the bad.

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I def would have to say its server based , when I started playing I created three characters on three different servers. And the one with the best nn was the one Ive played my main on , because they pretty much helped the whole journey through Arr. We have some really great mentors on my server, I mean its always gona be idle talk, but anytime someone new needs help their is always somewhere there with an informative response on exodus. The others I was on was pretty decent as well , but I didnt stay on long enough enough to see how they played out overall I dont think its a really bad feature tho.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

I'm assuming requirements will jump up 10 levels, doesn't make sense to be a mentor if you're missing 10 levels of progression of those roles/jobs.

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So would that just temp shut down the whole system are would they have different levels for it. Unless you bum rushed the story in a day are two then nobody would be level 70 right off the bat. I have know idea how they are gona make it work and having no mentors at all even for a lil while wouldnt be a good idea imo even for a short period of time.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

So would that just temp shut down the whole system are would they have different levels for it. Unless you bum rushed the story in a day are two then nobody would be level 70 right off the bat. I have know idea how they are gona make it work and having no mentors at all even for a lil while wouldnt be a good idea imo even for a short period of time.

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I would assume that the new requirements would be added in 4.1 to give people some time to get 1 of each leveled.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

having no mentors at all even for a lil while wouldnt be a good idea imo even for a short period of time.

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Having no mentors isn't really bad... especially since the majority are only in it for the mount then switch it off.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

So would that just temp shut down the whole system are would they have different levels for it. Unless you bum rushed the story in a day are two then nobody would be level 70 right off the bat. I have know idea how they are gona make it work and having no mentors at all even for a lil while wouldnt be a good idea imo even for a short period of time.

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If they do update the requirements (which I kind of have doubts they will), I'm pretty sure anyone who is already a mentor will get "grandfathered" in, specifically to avoid this exact situation.

It'll probably be the same stuff except it will be lvl70 roles instead of 60 for new mentors. They might not even care and just grandfather current mentors and let them keep it.

I am guessing those who are mentors now will remain mentors, I don't see them taking the mentor away from everyone who has earned it and having no mentors while everyone levels again.

The new requirements will most likely be for anyone who isn't already a mentor to become one.

Don't worry, you can keep your shiny crowns and such. I've had better luck assisting people with the crown off than I have with it turned on, personally. Especially since there are people out there who wear the crowns and can't even do their own jobs...

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Don't worry, you can keep your shiny crowns and such. I've had better luck assisting people with the crown off than I have with it turned on, personally. Especially since there are people out there who wear the crowns and can't even do their own jobs...

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But again everyone isnt like this, If someone is a fresh 50 ill go buy them gear from hw to help them until they can get ironworks set, I will run any dungeon new or old with a new player, I will craft for them for free. If I dont know something Ill do a google search because I know everyone isnt playing on pc. I mean I wanted to help , I help for a living so naturally Id want to in the game and NN is just a really big community more active than any ls so its a nice feature. I mean some may come across rude but Id like to think that over half the mentors actually care about helping other players.

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Originally Posted by Bixillarla

I don't see them taking the mentor away from everyone who has earned it and having no mentors while everyone levels again.

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There nothing really earned, just had to have one of each role leveled. Which quite a lot already had and not that hard to do.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

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Few bad apples can spoil the barrel though, and the Mentor system shouldn't have been something left to let bad apples sit in the first place. Letting it be player managed with no actual way to manage the system was a gross mishap on their part. Everything you can do as a mentor you could do without the shiny crown. That icon was supposed to mean "Hey I can engage this person for assistance and hope to learn/better understand something" and suffice to say, when I see that crown it's easily a 50/50 shot whether they're helpful, and even greater odds against them being competent in their own regards.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

But again everyone isnt like this, If someone is a fresh 50 ill go buy them gear from hw to help them until they can get ironworks set, I will run any dungeon new or old with a new player, I will craft for them for free. If I dont know something Ill do a google search because I know everyone isnt playing on pc. I mean I wanted to help , I help for a living so naturally Id want to in the game and NN is just a really big community more active than any ls so its a nice feature. I mean some may come across rude but Id like to think that over half the mentors actually care about helping other players.

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Aren't you the same person that was saying in another thread, that people need to earn their rewards or they shouldn't be allowed to have them?

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Originally Posted by Omfamna

Aren't you the same person that was saying in another thread, that people need to earn their rewards or they shouldn't be allowed to have them?

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Sigh a set of vender gear isnt a reward, nor is running someone through a dungeon, that they to participate in. A reward is drops, like mounts and up to date gear etc, totally not the samething as what I said in the quote you posted. So yea i stand by what I said in the other thread because these are two totally different things, buying a clear on Alexander is not the same as helping a new player stay geared up to where they wont be a burden to their fellow party members.

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Originally Posted by Omfamna

Aren't you the same person that was saying in another thread, that people need to earn their rewards or they shouldn't be allowed to have them?

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This also happens to be the same guy the community took 13 odd pages to convince that he should use Darkside on DRK.

I hope he's been using it properly since then because I'd hate to have him as a mentor after that thread...

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Originally Posted by Crysten

This also happens to be the same guy the community took 13 odd pages to convince that he should use Darkside on DRK.

I hope he's been using it properly since then because I'd hate to have him as a mentor after that thread...

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yes im using darkside , it was my first week even playin the job , and i always recommend it also

the current requirements are annoying as it is :/ i've only started tanking recently so have no where near the number of dungeon/trial completions needed in order to get into the mentor system. all i want is that mount!

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Originally Posted by Lewtskie

Few bad apples can spoil the barrel though, and the Mentor system shouldn't have been something left to let bad apples sit in the first place. Letting it be player managed with no actual way to manage the system was a gross mishap on their part. Everything you can do as a mentor you could do without the shiny crown. That icon was supposed to mean "Hey I can engage this person for assistance and hope to learn/better understand something" and suffice to say, when I see that crown it's easily a 50/50 shot whether they're helpful, and even greater odds against them being competent in their own regards.

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The mistake was putting a mount behind mentor roulette. It took the aspect of simply assisting newer players and made it about collecting yet another mount. It certainly doesn't help there is no GM moderation of any kind. Frankly, they could have used this as an opportunity to promote many of the guide makers on Youtube. At least that would be steering people in a good direction.