Cancelling Attunement

I've been PvPing for a bit now and for a while, been trying to find ways around Healer's Attunement ability. It's annoying!

The only things I know about combating Attunement are:

-DoTs can still hurt them while in Attunement.
-DoTs inflicted during before Attunement do full damage. While DoTs inflicted during Attunement do much less.
-Circle/Field AoEs still hurt them

I read on a forum that they could be pushed out of it but using Hawk's Eye + Blast Shot did push them but it didn't interrupt Attunement. So that was wrong..

I was thinking though, would it be possible as a SMN to use Hawk's Eye + Wither, an attack that removes a beneficial effect(like Attunement), as a way to remove Attunement completely?

Hawk's Eye makes hit rate 100%

You can not cancel it.

Just ignore the healer for the duration and burn someone else down while you have a free chance. It never ceased to amaze me when I sit in attunement watching DPSs try to burst me, wasting their CDs and a low heals situation.

Pretty sure I've cancelled an enemy healer's attunement with AST's retrogradation a couple times. Might be wrong, but I could swear I used it once in the past few days on an enemy healer with no additional buffs and it was wiped.

You can cencel it, but it both enhances evasion and lower to 10% damage received, so hawks Eye is a good thing if you need to finish him if he is REALLY low in HP,
even because a healer shouldn't attune without a regen or any other option to survive right after.

To cancel it you can use Wither, One Ilm Punch, Retrogradation and Glory Slash but only as SMN you can surely land a dispel because of Hawks Eye is among its crosskill,
but again all those dispel skills remove a random buff, so you have to be lucky.

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Originally Posted by Pence

You can not cancel it.

Just ignore the healer for the duration and burn someone else down while you have a free chance. It never ceased to amaze me when I sit in attunement watching DPSs try to burst me, wasting their CDs and a low heals situation.

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You CAN cancel it (I try with Retrogradation simply because the move doesn't see a lot of action from me otherwise in Shatter except to try to troll DPS during ice by slapping off one of their good offensive buffs), but I agree that the general strategy should be to handle it as you described. The amount of Attunement trolling I see healers do during ice (and have it actually be successful!) is alarmingly high considering how many low HP melee I sometimes see booking it away from ice with Sprint up.

You have to LB them. 2x.

SMN with hawk eye+ wither can cancel it I think you misunderstood smth I dont think anyone said blastshot can lol. Thing with it you cant decide what gets removed so its still rng.

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Originally Posted by Pence

You can not cancel it.

Just ignore the healer for the duration and burn someone else down while you have a free chance. It never ceased to amaze me when I sit in attunement watching DPSs try to burst me, wasting their CDs and a low heals situation.

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Fire Iv> Scathe, understandable, could been some lag or in midcast, however flare and melee lb after that, not so much, lamo, rip mp.

also for the attunement "trolling" on ice, givin how we can't do anything else it is justified, however I hate "balance" being defined by the clueless.

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Originally Posted by Pence

Just ignore the healer for the duration and burn someone else down while you have a free chance. It never ceased to amaze me when I sit in attunement watching DPSs try to burst me, wasting their CDs and a low heals situation.

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Not always. When I have limit break up as a melee I will sit there in front of you while you are attuned and wait for your timer to hit 1 second so that I can use your attunement as a free stun to limit break you lol. Because of latency if your HP is below like 75% you are pretty much dead since the limit break will go through and your "instant" heals if you have any wont go off in time.

If you can land a One-ilm Punch...

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Originally Posted by Dimitrii

Not always. When I have limit break up as a melee I will sit there in front of you while you are attuned and wait for your timer to hit 1 second so that I can use your attunement as a free stun to limit break you lol. Because of latency if your HP is below like 75% you are pretty much dead since the limit break will go through and your "instant" heals if you have any wont go off in time.

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Any healer worth anything doesn't sit in Attunement for full 10seconds. Good luck with that one.

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Originally Posted by xxczx

Any healer worth anything doesn't sit in Attunement for full 10seconds. Good luck with that one.

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You talk as if every healer in Feast is worth anything. There's only a handful of great healers in most data centers and you can pretty much list them all using both hands in each data center. Unless of course the collective heals in your data center are miles better than every other data center out there but given the world listed on your profile you will have to forgive me for not believing that to be the case lol. Maybe if it was from Mana or to a much lesser extent Aether I would.

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Originally Posted by Dimitrii

Snippu

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Do you wait a full 20s when fighting astros? o.0?

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Originally Posted by Dimitrii

You talk as if every healer in Feast is worth anything. There's only a handful of great healers in most data centers and you can pretty much list them all using both hands in each data center. Unless of course the collective heals in your data center are miles better than every other data center out there but given the world listed on your profile you will have to forgive me for not believing that to be the case lol. Maybe if it was from Mana or to a much lesser extent Aether I would.

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Sorry for assuming we're talking about high level play here. I guess your standards and Elo are very low.

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Originally Posted by xxczx

Sorry for assuming we're talking about high level play here. I guess your standards and Elo are very low.

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Yes you have a knack for always assuming and never reading. If you did you would have seen my comment was in direct response to that healer bragging about how he lets his attunement run full duration while dps try to attack him (hint in my reply to him I said "you" specifically not "healers"). There ARE players that tend to do this and that is a potential consequence for them doing that. Regardless like any other tactic no tactic works 100% of the time the whole point of Feast is to adjust and improvise your tactics as you go, taking advantage of familiarity with certain players and attempting to exploit their potential weaknesses, but to act like high level players are NEVER forced into situations where they must allow attunement to run for full duration is pretty ridiculous and laughable even. Just cause the situation forces you to let it run full duration doesn't necessarily mean it makes you a bad healer either like you are implying. Also do not patronize me talking about standards when both our data centers are widely regarded as the 2 weakest data centers in the game pvpwise lol.

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Originally Posted by xxczx

Any healer worth anything doesn't sit in Attunement for full 10seconds. Good luck with that one.

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It frustrates me so much in Frontlines when my cohealer hits Attune with like 4 DPS on them, I pop some heals on them til they're back to full and then they sit in Attune the whole time just in time for the rest of the enemy team to roll up to them and delete them right after it wears. ~__~ Like, click that thing OFF, m8, and GTFO.

I tried healing once. It was horrible. Everybody died and I still got a comm.. why?!

Nobody wants to do it, I'd reckon. It's a lot more intensive than PVE healing (I still don't think it's that bad stress-wise), you can't use Cleric Stance so have to run away even when you could easily 1v1 a silly DPS, and there's no achievements for anything healing-related, so everyone wants to YOLO around for kills.

I like healing, even in fast-paced environments like PVP, but even I get frustrated sometimes over what a thankless job it really is. I carried most of my premade to their Slaughterhouse title in Slaughter, but when it came time for someone else to suit up so I could farm kills on my SMN no one wanted to do it. Now I pretty much just queue solo, or duo with the BF.