Growing krakka or buying cheaper?

My character leveled her chocobo cheap using this one weird trick (ok, it's math), click here to find out how. Information below!

I see a lot of people growing krakka root to train their chocobos on the cheap without realizing that the Vath vendor sells some fair priced alternatives for 348 gil each that give just as much experience. In addition if you train your chocobo enough with these alternatives you can use them to give your chocobo some slight buffs while out in the field!

Here's a picture of the vendor and I've made it easier to see the four krakka root alternatives it sells:

http://i.imgur.com/8DVQy2j.jpg


Isn't it cheaper to grow krakka root?

Possibly! Using math we can determine what soil prices have to be in order to be equal to the Vath vendor. Just be aware that even being about the same price you're still tending and waiting 3 days for the krakka root to grow.

Formula: Vath Price Per (348 gil) * yield - krakka root seed (3,480) = Soil price

Grade 3 Shroud Soil: 2,784 gil
math: (348 * 18) - 3,480 = 2,784

Grade 2 Shroud Soil: 1,044 gil
math: (348 * 13) - 3,480 = 1,044

Grade 1 Shroud Soil: 348 gil
math: (348 * 11) - 3,480 = 348

Potting Soil, etc: n/a (even if the soil was free you'd spend more on just the seed)
math: (348 * 9) - 3,480 = -348



That's all well and good, but my retainer and I can get the soil for free!
You're still capable of selling the soil for market price if a 5% chunk off the sale price won't bring you below the amounts listed above, then purchase more food than you could grow for that price.

(let me know if I made any mistakes above, it's been a long day!)

It dosn't give anything to mine, not even 1 exp

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Originally Posted by Aerish

It dosn't give anything to mine, not even 1 exp

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1. Is your chocobo lvl 20? ;D
2. Is your chocobo between levels 9 to 20, but maxxed out and requiring a thavnairian onion to allow more experience to be gained?
3. Is your chocobo below level 10 and just needs to be taken out of the stable to kill a monster with you so it can advance a level and gain experience again?

lvl 18 with less than mid lvl xp

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Originally Posted by Aerish

lvl 18 with less than mid lvl xp

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Odd, as long as you're training them with one of the alternatives while the chocobo is stabled it should grant the same amount of xp as a krakka root (granted at that level each training session's only about .5%).

I send my retainer for 8 Shroud 3 soil, spend a little over 26k for 8 Krakka seeds at the housing vendor and plant them in my garden. few days later...18x8 Krakka :)

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Originally Posted by Besame

I send my retainer for 8 Shroud 3 soil, spend a little over 26k for 8 Krakka seeds at the housing vendor and plant them in my garden. few days later...18x8 Krakka :)

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Do you sell it or use it? Out of curiousity what does the shroud 3 soil sell for on your server?

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

Do you sell it or use it? Out of curiousity what does the shroud 3 soil sell for on your server?

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I use what my retainer brings back. I cannot recall what it sells for on my server, would have to check the MB and the game is being patched atm.

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Originally Posted by Besame

I use what my retainer brings back. I cannot recall what it sells for on my server, would have to check the MB and the game is being patched atm.

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Ooh I meant do you use the krakka. :) You might be able to sell the soil and buy more of the vendor chocobos goodies than if you use it to produce krakka roots. That's only if you're using it instead of selling it though.

Very odd. I thought krakka seeds were half that price. Have they always been that price? Been a while since I bought any.

But yes, I've long been amused at people continuing to buy krakka on the MB when there's a much cheaper alternative. Even before the Vath sold them, sometimes krakka would be far more expensive than buying sylkis off the MB.

Seems they should do something about the price of the seeds. They need adjusting.

I still don't understand, in french, item's description is just informing us of the bonus given to chocobo, i don't remember them saying it gives exp when used :/ as i said when the OP created the topic i'v bought some at vath, still my chocobo's exp bar didn't move for a single number :( *lost*

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Originally Posted by Aerish

I still don't understand, in french, item's description is just informing us of the bonus given to chocobo, i don't remember them saying it gives exp when used :/ as i said when the OP created the topic i'v bought some at vath, still my chocobo's exp bar didn't move for a single number :( *lost*

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The description in english also has no mention of experience, however using the alternatives to train the chocobo while it's in the stables should give your chocobo the same experience points as training it with krakka root. My FC and I have been using the cheaper alternatives from the Vath vendor for some time now. When the servers back up I'll see if I can snag a screenshot that might make more sense (or uncover a bug if you're doing the same thing and having a different result).

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

Very odd. I thought krakka seeds were half that price. Have they always been that price? Been a while since I bought any.
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Seems they should do something about the price of the seeds. They need adjusting.

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As far as I can recall that's always been their price. Alone the price doesn't seem so bad, but it adds up quick when you're filling up plots.

oh, it's more clear to me now x_x