I have been thinking about this since the Class Reforms were released. The term "conjurer" (to me) always seems like either a) a summoner or b) an Elementalist. Now since CNJ isnt for sure a summoner, and even less of an Elementalist. Do you think in 2.0 that they should change the name of CNJ to something more fitting?
Just a thought. Just want to see what everyone thinks.
Do you think they will change the name?
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11-26-2011, 10:31 AMKireiDo you think they will change the name?
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11-26-2011, 10:34 AMDeadRiser
I think in 2.0 they are getting rid of THM, CNJ, ect and just replacing it with WHM, BLM, ect. Just /ranting
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11-26-2011, 01:10 PMBowenI really doubt that that is going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadRiser
As for OP, I am. . . not sure. That is actually a good question. I thought the same as well. -
11-27-2011, 03:22 PMDeadRiserWhy would you doubt that? They dramatically changed the classes to be pretty much the SAME as their future job. The job black mage is THM spells plus a few. It's actually a pretty good observation considering the circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowen
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12-01-2011, 12:18 PMNadienKirisameIt is conjurer to us... If I remember right someone did mention that it is also druid in the German version?? It would take me far too long to go and find it... and the cat is oh so tired. So I guess it would depend on which version you look at?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirei
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12-01-2011, 01:13 PMKinseykinz
Not sure if they will change it for 'us' English language people or not. I think Druid would actually translate nicely for the English vs. of CNJ (I don't know if it is Druid in German either). I know in french CNJ is translated as Elementalist...so they could use a change too. Still I don't see SE changing our name...seems a little more complicated than it's worth. Besides, White Mage is the first Job CNJ locks....maybe down the road CNJ will be needed to unlock a Job like Summoner or Spellweaver etc...who knows.
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12-01-2011, 03:24 PMKirei
I hope that "Conjurer" unlocks SMN down the road, actually I just hope that SMN is released at all. xD. The big 4 jobs for me in XI was RDM, BLM, WHM, and SMN. (Even in PnP, I use mage/caster classes). I just think when 2.0 comes out and new people start playing. When they see Conjurer as a class they are going to think of what CNJ was. (Elementalist). I am not trying to start an "Oh noez, dont kill my CNJ!!!11" thread. I like that we are getting a full healing job, and after seeing my list of jobs in XI..I dont mind healing. I'm just throwing out my view on it. As long as they dont go DDO (Dungeons and Dragons Online) and call the class "Cleric." >.>
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12-01-2011, 08:13 PMCoglin
Elementalist in french
Druid in german
Illusionist in japanese, at least thats what google translate says. -
12-02-2011, 03:07 AMSpellbinder
When I tried to look up the Japanese name in a Japanese-Japanese dictionary, it got pretty complicated but was basically someone who uses magic.... I think... *goes back to dictionary*
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12-02-2011, 03:10 AMsyntaxlieswhy would they go through the trouble of developing a branching job system if they are gonna nix the classes.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadRiser
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12-02-2011, 03:17 AMgrandm
why isn't CON a elementalist? i can only guess you think because CON is WHM you think it is not elemental, but i think you are a little confused. CON is class WHM is job, 2 different things, GLD is class a pit fighter from ul'dah PLD is job a holy knight. see my point? CON the class will still have it's lore in gridinia and will still be elementalist
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12-02-2011, 03:19 AMSephrickFun fact: In the French version of the game, Conjurer is literally called Elementalist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirei
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12-03-2011, 07:43 PMGENExitus
I dont know but if they do then we all will have to adjust to it I gess.
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12-04-2011, 12:08 AMKinseykinzI agree with you...but I also agree that it might not be a bad idea to rename the class as we don't really 'Conjer' anything either. In other games...like Skyrim I'm currently playing, Conjurers are 'summoners'. Honestly, we probably should have been named 'Druid' like the Germans at the start...since it fits the actual essence of what this class does more than Conjurer.Quote:
Originally Posted by grandm
At least for me when I hear Druid I think: Priests who were for the most part 'good' who used magic and their knowledge of the arcane to heal and commune with nature. However, they also knew how to use the natural forces around them for protection....sounds pretty darn close to what CNJ actually is/does in game. And actually, had they named us 'Druid' from the get-go, I think there would have been a couple less posts of 'CNJ should be BLM not WHM'
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12-04-2011, 08:43 AMCoglin
I also feel Druid to be more appropriate. I see no need for changing it now though. As far as the name elementalist goes, there is no logic in that name anymore. With the spells I read, CNJ will be no more of an elementalist then THM is to be.
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12-06-2011, 08:11 AMNadienKirisameIf you take elementalist only as someone whom casts elemental spells... eh maybe but why not take elementalist as someone whom communes with the elementals and can cast some elemental based spells... but the main part is talking to the elementals which makes it an elementalist.Quote:
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12-06-2011, 08:19 AMNoctisUmbraFact: More Jobs will be released that stem from these classes. More classes will be released that have jobs that stem from this.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadRiser
Logic: If they had any intention of throwing away current classes for traditional jobs only, they wouldn't bother with a system like the Job System and would have just renamed and redone the classes with this very reform we are about to get.