[Dev Inquiry] 3.5 and the Birbs (possible minor spoilers)

From this recent post, we can finally see the anticipated Phoenix mount for collecting all the Lanners!
http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/12...dcfecf2589.jpg

It's exciting, but one question is weighing on my mind, and that is if we can expect to see an increase for the drop rate for any more of the bird mounts, or if any more will become purchasable with the arrival 3.5? (I am admittedly, thinking primarily of Niddhogg and Sephirot)

I can't say I'm exactly expecting a response, but it would be nice....really nice. One can dream, right? T_T pleasesavemefromysuffering

But hey, at least the mount looks cool

Edit: English version of the post here for those interested

Does the 100 token thing apply to all the bird mounts?

That bird looks so beautiful indeed

Also I'm excited with some new emote for 3.5

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Originally Posted by Ragology

Does the 100 token thing apply to all the bird mounts?

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Currently only Bismark, Ravana and Thordan's birb has the 99 token thing going on.

Also, I wonder what music this one will play...Sadly I still have Sephy, Niddy and Thordan birds to get left, besides the new one that should be on the way.

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Originally Posted by Esp

Also, I wonder what music this one will play...Sadly I still have Sephy, Niddy and Thordan birds to get left, besides the new one that should be on the way.

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I'm hoping for T13 bgm, but Kirin only has normal bgm so idk if SE will put song in it :(

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Originally Posted by Eul

I'm hoping for T13 bgm, but Kirin only has normal bgm so idk if SE will put song in it :(

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Yea, I feel they will just slap on the normal bgm for flying mounts and call it a day...but I so hope they me prove me wrong. xD

A little complain about the fixed glasses emote. Does this mean SCH win pose isn't unique anymore? :mad:

Looks like they really didn't give a whole lot of though to the Zurvan birb because they ran out of colors, so hey. Let's unveil Superbirb too, that way they'll just see it as the final puzzle piece.

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Originally Posted by Eul

I'm hoping for T13 bgm, but Kirin only has normal bgm so idk if SE will put song in it :(

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Normal BGM? .__. It doesn't have the default flying theme; it plays Prelude/ Crystal's Theme. Like... the main Final Fantasy theme D: that's not a normal song.

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Originally Posted by Eul

I'm hoping for T13 bgm, but Kirin only has normal bgm so idk if SE will put song in it :(

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Wouldn't T12 be more appropriate?

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Originally Posted by ZhaneX

Wouldn't T12 be more appropriate?

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Oh right I mean T12, I almost forgot all the coil :p

Drop rate will increase for the rest of the birds I think

Well I'm not that excited. It is basically a Kirin with wings. It's not bad but it's almost the same with the old Kirin. And yes they ran out of colors. I still believe the old unicorns were way better than the lanners. They were much more distinguishable and original. Each with a specific colour. The old Primals helped in that. They were assigned a specific colour due to their elements. The new Primals were a mix of elements so they ran out of colours.

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Originally Posted by Riardon

Well I'm not that excited. It is basically a Kirin with wings. It's not bad but it's almost the same with the old Kirin. And yes they ran out of colors. I still believe the old unicorns were way better than the lanners. They were much more distinguishable and original. Each with a specific colour. The old Primals helped in that. They were assigned a specific colour due to their elements. The new Primals were a mix of elements so they ran out of colours.

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This mount is the actual phoenix model. This is WAY different than Kirin tbh. Really excited for it since T12 was one of my favorite fights. Too bad I have 0 birbs right now ...

It's not Phoenix.

Yoshida already told it isn't phoenix. When old one is kirin, it might be susaku or houoh, Japanese, chinese phoenix.

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Originally Posted by Cherub

This mount is the actual phoenix model. This is WAY different than Kirin tbh. Really excited for it since T12 was one of my favorite fights. Too bad I have 0 birbs right now ...

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It is not a Phoenix. It doesn't even come close to one. And it can't even be a Phoenix because of Lore.

Skittles horses and skittles birds. I assume 4.0 will have skittles fish then.

"It's not Phoenix. It's not Phoenix."

Use your eyes. It might not be THE Phoenix because lore reasons, but it's very clearly based in that same kind of "Fire Bird" aesthetic. People are just calling it "Phoenix" as shorthand. Use some bleeding common sense people.

Whatever i've just got the kirin and no way in hell i'm thinking to start farming birds with those drop rates.

Google Translate shows that the mount in question is indeed called "Phoenix," but that's Google Translate... it may not be entirely accurate.

Also, I really do hope they'll be allowing Sephirot and Nidhogg's mounts to be purchased from Bertana. It would make sense considering they did the same for Thordan, Ravana and Bismarck, and it's been quite some time since they've released some.

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Originally Posted by Riardon

It is not a Phoenix. It doesn't even come close to one. And it can't even be a Phoenix because of Lore.

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I said phoenix MODEL. As in the design very much reminds people of Phoenix or else we wouldn't have this discussion in the first place.

Why do people keep saying its Phoenix? It may share the same model but that doesn't make it Phoenix.

This is Phoenix.

http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...6c5f3fb1e4.jpg

If anything, it should play Dragonsong and Kirin should be fixed to play Answers, as those were the themes of each respective game.

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Originally Posted by Remus

Why do people keep saying its Phoenix? It may share the same model but that doesn't make it Phoenix.

This is Phoenix.

http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...6c5f3fb1e4.jpg

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Yes, you're right. They don't look anything alike. Not even a little bit.

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Originally Posted by ZhaneX

Yes, you're right. They don't look anything alike. Not even a little bit.

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He said they look alike. But that doesnt make BirbPhoenix into the actual phoenix. Which is what people apparently try to convey.

Looks like phoenix, very much so.
Isn't the actual phoenix from the story.

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Originally Posted by Cherub

He said they look alike. But that doesnt make BirbPhoenix into the actual phoenix. Which is what people apparently try to convey.

Looks like phoenix, very much so.
Isn't the actual phoenix from the story.

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I don't think anyone's making the assumption that we're riding around on Louisoux; except the people who feel compelled to keep saying it's not. "Phoenix", while a specific entity in FFXIV, is typically a name for an entire species. Thus, as we do not know the actual name for this specific mount, it's natural to default to calling it by its obvious inspiration; even if that name is already taken by an individual in the setting (which it shares its appearance with).

How this can be so confounding to people, I find utterly mind-boggling.

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Originally Posted by ZhaneX

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I absolutely and completely agree with you but what can you do /shrug.
People will always read more into it than what was actually said.

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Originally Posted by Giubba

Whatever i've just got the kirin and no way in hell i'm thinking to start farming birds with those drop rates.

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I'm sure when Stormblood has been out for a while, getting them birds will be ezpz. XDD I just might wait til that point.

I would've preferred a "snow" bird :p but phoenix is nice

you can get the birb. I want those new PvP badass mounts!

G** *****t SE! I have my Rose Lanner and thought, "Well, that's that." Now you give me this...... the eminence Phoenix fan I am, and I don't really care if its a Phoenix or some old elf or whatever.... if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....


Man.... I'm so lazy and now I have to run these things again.

/whining.... thanks SE, once again making my dreams come true.

IIIIIIIIIIII'M SOOOOOOOOO EXCIIIIIIIIIIITEEEEEEEEEEED!!! \o/

I have been a PSYCHO BIRB FARMER since they first came out. All I need is the Zurvan birb and my collection is complete and I get the SHINY SUPERBIRB! \o/

Finally, after all the grinding, I see the light at the end of the tunnel. ;.;

Side note, I totally called it when I said the bird in Yoshi's New Years art was the Kirin bird.

This would be great if people didn't STILL suck at Sephirot and I could get my 99 tokens

I'm at like 125 Sophia clears right now and I haven't seen a bird drop for her since October.

I really hope they add the totem turn in for the last 3 but I'm not holding my breath.

This would be great if there wasn't only "No bonus" PFs up, and any clear PFs that are up never fill.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

This would be great if there wasn't only "No bonus" PFs up, and any clear PFs that are up never fill.

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That's kinda why whenever I go to create a farm party, I intentionally leave the "No Bonus" part out. Even on Balmung I see that constantly and while it's understandable, the second part of what you said still is true, clear parties don't fill up as often even with the bonus and second chance.

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Originally Posted by TSLsmokey

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I don't know how viable this is on Balmung, but something I ended up doing was making an LS specifically aimed at bird farming and only inviting people who can complete the runs without issue. This has helped me fill up my parties a lot faster and removed a lot of the "trap" issue.

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Originally Posted by Texa

I really hope they add the totem turn in for the last 3 but I'm not holding my breath.

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I can't really see them adding Sophia's tokens in as she's still quite new, but I'm very hopeful for sephirot and Niddhogg; particularly since I do happen to be sitting on 99 niddhogg ex tokens already. I'm at a dilemma of "do I wait and hope they make it purchasable to avoid screwing other people out of the bird, or should I keep farming anyways in case they don't?"

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Originally Posted by Eul

Oh right I mean T12, I almost forgot all the coil :p

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Bennu mount already plays T12 so another mount with that wouldn't be ideal. Firebird/Hou-ou will prob play the Prelude again like Kirin. =p

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Originally Posted by Louvain

I don't know how viable this is on Balmung, but something I ended up doing was making an LS specifically aimed at bird farming and only inviting people who can complete the runs without issue. This has helped me fill up my parties a lot faster and removed a lot of the "trap" issue.

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I'm part of a similar linkshell actually. However the owner will accept anyone who wishes to join.