So the constant story build up for Omega through 2.X to 3.X era Main Scenario is just for the upcoming 4.0 8 member raid and will not be required to progress in the Main Storyline.
However, it is still a very important part of 4.0 Main Storyline despite not being required.
What are your opinion about this for 4.0?
In my opinion I feel a bit robbed as the Omega storyline has been slowly built up as something important since 2.X but suddenly dropped as Important Main Storyline but just a side content that is important for 4.0 Main Storyline but at the same time not part of 4.0 Main Storyline.
I know they did this for the garlean side of the 3.X Storyline being the Warring Triads Saga which felt more like a removed part of the 3.X Main Scenario but a part of this just felt a bit wrong in my opinion.
Though that does beg the question what will be 4.0 Main Scenario Final Boss if the long built up hype for Omega is not the Final boss or part of the Final Bosses.
Omega Storyline continue in 4.0 Raid? [discussion]
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12-25-2016, 09:24 AMEdwinLiOmega Storyline continue in 4.0 Raid? [discussion]
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12-25-2016, 09:49 AMNezeriusI don't recall there being that much of a story build up for Omega. Firstly getting mentioned in a sidequest to unlock Frontlines, and secondly Teledji having some plans with the Carteneau Flats, but he didn't live long enough for the players to get all that much insight on what exactly he was planning.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwinLi
I think it's a good thing that they picked something that already has a small bit of existence in the game world, further building upon that in the coming patch, followed by the actual 8-man raid in 4.0. This makes it so the playerbase is already familiar with who/what they're up against, making it easier for the raid's story to be interesting (Similar to the build up towards the Binding Coils, though in a smaller scale). Unlike Alexander, who kinda just appeared out of nowhere right after the player finished the 3.0 MSQ.Quote:
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It seems pretty clear to me that we'll be dealing with Zenos yae Galvus at the end of the 4.0 MSQ.Quote:
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12-25-2016, 09:53 AMGumbercules
Its just a part of them trying to break main story interests apart a bit so the 2.x series issue doesn't happen again. So I am ok with it. Its not less important story, its just said story better sorted.
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12-25-2016, 10:12 AMEdwinLiBut what if Zenos was only the Mid-boss of 4.0 Main Scenario?Quote:
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12-25-2016, 12:21 PMZhaneX
Maybe among the system updates will be greater integration of side content into the main content, thus rewarding those who have completed it with a feeling of real change in their perception of the game world?
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12-25-2016, 01:11 PMJunseiKeiSo it's basically like The Coil of Bahamut. Main story connected - ending 1.0, with the conclusion being side quests to enter the raid and getting the full story through those means. I actually thought Omega Weapon was just going to end up like Ultima's Bane. This is actually a pleasant surprise to find out it's the new raid.Quote:
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12-26-2016, 04:27 AMEdwinLiWell depends on a "certain point of view".Quote:
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1.0 story into Coil Raid was more as a conclusion to the 1.0 Main Storyline.
Omega into 4.0 Raid is basically putting a part of 4.0 Main Storyline as a separate content. Though I do question how Nero will play out in the 4.0 Omega Raid after everything he went through through 2.0 and Crystal Tower story. -
12-26-2016, 09:42 AMRemedi
Could probably be related to the complaint of alexander beign too disloged from the main story, in a way is exactly what coil was
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12-26-2016, 10:39 AMSendohJinWhat does Omega have to do with Ala Mhigan occupation? How much did they build up Thordan for the 3.0 Final Boss before 3.0?Quote:
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12-26-2016, 10:56 AMJCharmsIndeed, I think its a good move. I just hope that all of 4.xx is optional like this.Quote:
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It also allows them to make it more challenging, having it aside for people that want to do it rather than forcing bads through it, then probably nerfing it into the ground. -
12-26-2016, 03:45 PMAirget
4.0 "Final Boss" could be Asura, if we are playing off the sects, something something, leads to an entity that is mastery of both light/dark sects of the Monk ways. aka the Monks desire to create that "perfect form" creates the Primal Asura.
In terms of a flowchart, it makes sense why SE changed the way the MSQ worked, because as it stood they stack to much "new content" into the main story, that those eager to do one aspect of it would potentially rush to get to that point.
2.0 Had 3 paths. Coil, Tower, MSQ which equated to certain dungeons and Primals
In 3.0 they split it up Alexander, Ark, MSQ(certain dungeons and specific 8 man instance content) and "Primal Quest"
As it stands, yes the stories tend to be segregated from one another.
Alexander is pretty much a "one-shot" that builds up certain lore but overall influence on the MSQ is lacking. Which isn't always bad, in fact I"d say it world builds better because ina real world like standard not everything has to effect everything. In a world, there is never one threat that seeks to ruin humanity, it's a barrage of different instances and Alexander fits that bill.
Alexander is a dire situation that has nothing to do with the overall story we've been following but it doesn't make it any less important because it's effects on the world if it were to succeed would be dire.
the 3 Primals(Contaiment) targets in Azlyia can also serve this purpose, they currently don't influence the MSQ which if we give a general spoiler comes down to this.
MSQ
3.0 was pretty much stopping the Leader from succeeding in using Thordan to serve his purpose.
3.1-3.4 was pretty much eliminating the last threat that impeded on the peace of Ishgard while also dealing with another threat on top of that.
3.4+ now we are entering 4.0 territory getting back to the ala mhigo cause.
MEANWHILE
3.0/3.2/3.4
We're dealing with Alexander while also dealing with the Containment issue caused by the garlean
3.1/3.3/3.5
Dealing with a potential dire situation with a bunch of pirates whom we teamed up with and end up in a sticky situation that could cause a dangerous voidsent to awaken onto our world
So honestly, if you take a sec to think about it, why is it bad that these other dire situations are occurring at the same time that aren't tied to the story? That's how it should work, the ability to have multiple threats around us which we progress to overcome is way better than something that just focuses on having to be tied to the MSQ. -
12-26-2016, 10:12 PMhagaresooo basically the same thing they did to coil?Quote:
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12-26-2016, 11:42 PMEvangela
Isn't it the Interdimensional Rifts? I can see Krile taking part in this arc. Maybe we'll see Galuf, Exdeath, and returning Gilgamesh & Enkidu too.
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12-27-2016, 03:45 AMEdwinLiIf Gilgamesh and Enkidu return for the Omega raid because of the Rifts then I hope it at least explores more about Gilgamesh's actual thoughts ever since he began his journey to find Excalibur after Type-0.Quote:
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Give FF players some more feeling to Gilgamesh that he isn't just some Comedy character for FF series but a tragic character who hides his pain behind being a Comedy character after losing everything he cared about in FF Type-0.
It would also be interesting if one of the Raid Boss may be a illusion clone of the Real Enkidu who died in Type-0.
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12-27-2016, 04:22 AMmyahele
I wonder if Omega will be powered by the Heart of Sabik? That might explain the possible interdimensional travel Omega is capable of. Maybe Shinryuu might actually play a part.
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12-27-2016, 06:04 PMKarstenSGilgamesh was always a comedy character in the FF series. The battle on the big bridge is nearly a copy&paste of the FF5 fight.Quote:
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12-27-2016, 07:38 PMEvangelaHe probably want to forget that he lost to a weakling like Machina before Bartz.Quote:
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