Apparently water still is in the game

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Originally Posted by Youmukon

Concernant les sorts d'eau, cet élément a été omis de la liste volontairement, mais il sera bien présent.

Les éléments seront divisés de la manière suivante :

Elementaliste : Vent / Terre / Eau
Occultiste : Feu / Glace / Foudre

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According to a French comm rep post, Water still is in the game as a spell.


I'm in no way fluent in French but I know enough to get the gist of text.

This post is basically saying Water was "voluntarily" left off the list of spells but said that it will be in game. The breakdown is:

Conjurer (FR Elementalist): Wind/Earth/Water

Thaumaturge (FR Occultist): Fire/Ice/Lightning

Not sure how it could be left off in any capacity since they said classes will get only 15 spells/abilities. Unless one of the cures is water - at which point I'd have to wonder what will happen to my Wand of Tides with Water III materia I have waiting for my CNJ.

Anyway, posted this in general discussion instead of CNJ as I thought it'd have a broad interest.

At the very least it does help us follow the path that Cure could equal Water based element.
This does not help though with the new THM descriptions.

They mentioned wanting to raise the cap to 55, for something, i forget what, but be it for AF gear or some final abilities, (I think they mentioned AF gear is obtained every 5 levels, which would seem VERY odd if i read that or remember that correctly.)
When Lv55 will be added is unknown, as they are just now starting to decide when it will be best, 1.21? later? at 2.0? after 2.0?
But It's possible its the spell CNJ might get for the increase of the Lv cap.

AF every 5 level's isn't that odd, in FFXI AF was every handful of levels (usually every 2 after the initial level 40+ weapon) then Relic was every level and Empyrean jumped between every 1-3 levels.(Some jobs had different level requirements.)

They already had an idea on when they wanted to raise the cap so it's not a specific frame if I recall, if you were to guess, it would be sometime after 1.21 because job introduction and further refinement to class balance.

Bah, you should be using a Jade Crook with Magic Attack potency so you can just boost all your elements =P

Glad to hear that CNJ is getting water. Earth/wind/water really does go with CNJ thematically considering they originate in Gridania. If Cure does end up becoming water-based I wonder if the Water Potecy materia will affect it alongside the Healing Magic Potency. Otherwise, like someone mentioned, it would be something we get post-50.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

Bah, you should be using a Jade Crook with Magic Attack potency so you can just boost all your elements =P

Glad to hear that CNJ is getting water. Earth/wind/water really does go with CNJ thematically considering they originate in Gridania. If Cure does end up becoming water-based I wonder if the Water Potecy materia will affect it alongside the Healing Magic Potency. Otherwise, like someone mentioned, it would be something we get post-50.

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Aye, it seems they're making them more "Astral Master" and "Umbral Master" rather than just vanilla healer and nuker which is interesting.

Actually that's incorrect, since Wind is Astral while Water and Earth are Umbral. Water, Earth, and Wind just fit better in a forest/nature/protection concept.

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AF every 5 level's isn't that odd, in FFXI AF was every handful of levels (usually every 2 after the initial level 40+ weapon) then Relic was every level and Empyrean jumped between every 1-3 levels.(Some jobs had different level requirements.)

They already had an idea on when they wanted to raise the cap so it's not a specific frame if I recall, if you were to guess, it would be sometime after 1.21 because job introduction and further refinement to class balance.

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I'd rather the AF gear not be every 5 levels, only because by the time you get the body piece or whatever, your boots will end up being so low level it will be obsolete. Unless they figure out how to scale the armor or something.

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Originally Posted by Kailok

I'd rather the AF gear not be every 5 levels, only because by the time you get the body piece or whatever, your boots will end up being so low level it will be obsolete. Unless they figure out how to scale the armor or something.

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This is what I meant by odd.
Because of the difference of gear between levels, and making crafting gear in the 30-50 range obsolete, I would rather it be 51-55. or just all 54 or 55.

The low level quests could just give you high level gear, you know =P

For the armor deal, a lot of free MMOs utilize cash shop items that grow with the character (sometimes up to a certain level). If they can do scaling armor anyone can! lol. I really hope water isn't put to healing though... I hate the wand+shield combo.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

The low level quests could just give you high level gear, you know =P

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I'd rather they refrained from that as well. Doing a low level quest at say, 25-30, and then getting a level 50+ piece of gear from it? Though I'm already a 50 GLA, it wouldn't make sense for an up-and-coming GLA hoping to be a badass PLD do a quest and have to wait 20-25 levels just to be able to wear the gear they just earned. Plus, they said that each piece of gear would be challenging to get, so I honestly don't see it. What they'll probably do is have you learn a new ability/ws every 5 levels past 25-30 and then once you hit 50 you can unlock the gear quests. Or something. Hopefully >.>;

I think that's what will happen. I remember them saying you learn a new ability with each job quest but I don't remember anything about armor.