We should have a way to level up alternative jobs more quickly

As the title says, leveling up alternative jobs on a single character is an absolute slog. It takes, in my opinion, way too long, even with the armory bonus and FC bonus.

I'd like to propose the ability to purchase some sort of XP boost, whether it be in the form of a potion, a piece of gear, etc, which gives a substantial increase in EXP gained.

My hopes are that if this change were implemented, the highly repetitive and monotonous process of leveling would be cut down dramatically because you could more easily shift to different types of content as your levels increase at a higher rate (I'm looking at you, non-stop Vault runs from 57-59).

Do you even POTD? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...n_alt_i_did_a/

Leveling is really fast.

Leveling in this game really is fast compared to other games, well, to me at least.

Please no, levelling in Potd is really fast and fun. And 1-60 will be even faster in stormblood if HW patch notes are anything to go by.

Like a jump potion? :rolleyes:

wait, even faster?

I'm curious as to what people see as the ideal leveling speed when topics like this pop up. From my perspective leveling is quite fast in this game already.

It took me 10-11 days each to get most of my alt classes from 50 to 60. This was with roulettes, Clan Centurio Hunts and the Challenge Log. No PotD (it hadn't been released yet), extra FATEs, extra leves, or additional dungeon runs after the dailies.
It felt quite fast to me and there was lots of room for me to level even faster if I wanted to push.

Edit: The Heavensward Beast Tribe quests give nice exp as well. I remember doing some Vanu ones while I was leveling but I think I finished my battle classes before the Gnath were released.

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Originally Posted by Moomba33

I'm curious as to what people see as the ideal leveling speed when topics like this pop up.

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Clearly alt. jobs should level up along with your main job, so after completing MSQ journey - you'd have all jobs at level cap, and all new jobs would get boosted to your highest level job once you unlock them. :rolleyes:

I got all my classes to 60 just from random challenge log entries and roulettes. That was also without hardcore grinding.

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Originally Posted by Anzaman

Clearly alt. jobs should level up along with your main job, so after completing MSQ journey - you'd have all jobs at level cap, and all new jobs would get boosted to your highest level job once you unlock them. :rolleyes:

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Nice idea but it's a half measure, as a special snowflake I think what should happen is once I've got my first job to 60 then every other class should automatically hit 60 and be geared up to the maximun ilevel available at that time. I should also get 50 invulnerability potions which last for 2 hours each so I can get used to new content without being "that guy" while I work out all the new rotations and stuff. I should also get a new house and 5 million gil to spend on furnishings. Any complaints of this system would clearly be the Patriarchy at work, invading my safe space and forcing me to actually play the game and my classes which is clearly oppressive. Anyone who doesn't agree is clearly noobphobic and should lose their job in real life and be shamed on national TV as Hitler.

I'd love to talk more on the oppressive Nazism of veteran players but I have some feminist snow ploughing to do.


On a more serious note, PotD took leveling and made it about as easy as it's ever going to get. If that's not enough then.... wow.

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Originally Posted by Inori-Yuzuriha

Do you even POTD? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...n_alt_i_did_a/

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Leves.

Dungeons.

Daily Roulettes.

Challenge Logs.

Beastmen Dailies.

3.0 Hunt Logs.

FATEs.

Not only has dungeon exp been boosted significantly, there's FATEs and PotD which also just bleed exp.
Plus 2x exp for levels 1-50 and 1.5x exp for 51-60, assuming you're not on your first class here.
For gathering and crafting there is daily GC turn-ins, beast tribe quests, workshop items, Collectables, and levequests.

Levelling is, by far, the least time consuming part of playing this game. It's no longer a grand affair when someone levels up, and that's pretty sad!

The first job you level up takes more time, but the other jobs take less time, I think the other jobs are 25% or 50% faster than the first. Also, it depend of guilds because some like ours put actions like 10% more XP for battle class or more XP for gatherers/crafters.

I don't know. I got all classes (including Craft an Gathering ones) to 60 like 1-2 month or so after Heavensward release. And no, I don't play 24/7. Once you level 1 class to 60 you will have extra EXp. Using FC actions, food, logging off in Sanctuary areas and that, you can get is very easy. Few days per class. And now I think is even easier from 1 to 50 thansk to the exp boost in dungeons bosses. And the PotD.

Game launches, people complain it takes too much time and it's too hard. Game's nerfed down and xp gets a boost.
People complain again it's too hard and takes too much time to lvl up. Game gets more nerfs in dungeons and more boost in xp.
People still complain game is too hard. Game becomes easy to the point of boredom and you can faceroll dungeons ignoring most of the mechanics. Old dungeons getting nerfed again and new ones are so easy my blind cat can clear them. Game introduces PoTD as an alternative easier and faster way to lvl up for those who still find regular dungeons too hard and too much time consuming.
People complain game is too casual and too easy.
People complain is too hard.
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Originally Posted by Riardon

Game launches, people complain it takes too much and it's too hard. Game getting nerfed down and xp gets a boost.
People complain again it's too hard and takes too much time to lvl up. Games gets more nerfs in dungeons and more boost in xp.
People still complain game is too hard. Game becomes easy to the point of boredom and you can faceroll dungeons ignoring most of the mechanics. Old dungeons getting nerfed again and new ones are so easy my blind cat can clear them. Game introduces PoTD as an alternative easier and faster way to lvl up for those who still find regular dungeons too hard and too much time consuming.
People complain game is too casual and too easy.
People complain is too hard.
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I barely grinded any dungeons for a prolonged period of time and I have all my classes at 60, levelling now is super fast. Levelling via Palace of the Dead and general roulettes gets you up at a solid pace, assuming you do all roulettes that can give you EXP every day, you should be done in less than 2 weeks, even less with some Palace and one or two extra dungeon runs.

Hardly a slog, unlike the old Heavensward 50-60 for your first class.

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Originally Posted by FreeKingStefan

As the title says, leveling up alternative jobs on a single character is an absolute slog. It takes, in my opinion, way too long, even with the armory bonus and FC bonus.

I'd like to propose the ability to purchase some sort of XP boost, whether it be in the form of a potion, a piece of gear, etc, which gives a substantial increase in EXP gained.

My hopes are that if this change were implemented, the highly repetitive and monotonous process of leveling would be cut down dramatically because you could more easily shift to different types of content as your levels increase at a higher rate (I'm looking at you, non-stop Vault runs from 57-59).

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So a few days of casual grinding through dungeons, fates, challenges, PotD, turn-ins, etc is too slow?

While I am in no way a fan of going from godslayer to mouse-fighter every time I switch over to learning a new job (granted, it's been damn long time since everything hit 60), I feel like the actual time required to level a slew of different jobs is about right.

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Originally Posted by FreeKingStefan

I'd like to propose the ability to purchase some sort of XP boost, whether it be in the form of a potion, a piece of gear, etc, which gives a substantial increase in EXP gained.

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See this is why SE is ready to release a jump potion and break the game.. >.<

Exactly the audience SE would profit off from jump potions :D

Why are people complaining about how long it takes to level up your other jobs. Your playing an MMORPG and a Final Fantasy game to boot. Final Fantasy is known for the exp grinding you have to do when levelling.

Now let's be real now the main reason way people don't want a Level jump potion is because it would be unfair to all the people that put in the time an effort to get all there jobs to level 60. That's the only reason why people don't want it.

Now if it was a exp ring that gave you a little bit extra exp that would be cool like they had in FF11 but even that had a limit to it. I think it had like a timer on it or something and once you had use it all up you had to wait for the time to reset before you can use it again.

Ether way, what ever SE decide to do the should be a limit to it. It's not about everything in this game being change to make life easy for people who keep complaining.

people leveled DRK/MCH/AST 30-60 in 1 day, when HW was released; why should it be faster?
this game doesn't even remotely need an XP boost option.

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Originally Posted by MihaelB

Exactly the audience SE would profit off from jump potions :D

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That's the way the cookie crumbles.

How can you want something that takes maybe 20 hours tops to be made even shorter? There's gotta be some standards!

It took me forever to get to 60, partly because I tend to struggle when I have no MSQs to go by. After I did get to 60, I did wait a bit so I could get geared and stuff, and then went back and leveled other jobs to 60. I don't level all too fast in general because I get distracted easily, and I don't play the four days I'm at work, but I'm currently passively leveling the last job I had at level 1. Even I found it to go pretty fast.

And I have no idea how to level when I go to the next job. I just forget everything I did.

I know I do challenge logs, roulettes, hunting logs for the jobs that have them at the appropriate levels, beast tribes 50+, occasionally going out with leves or dungeon separate from roulette, challenge logs, and other things. This one I'm leveling now has done a lot of PotD, and that exp is a lot.

Honestly, we already have the boosted exp from all of those things we already have in game. Why do we need another? Sure, it'd be nice, but is it really necessary?

This thread is quite interesting, and speaks volumes about the type people that frequent these forums when potd is brought up as often as it is as a solution to anything...

TC, if anything, leveling your first and other jobs needs to be slowed down - significantly slowed down. I'm talking along the lines of, keep the exp gains you make now, but have to get ten to twenty times the exp to level up, kind of slowdown. Instead of 3.9 mil exp to go from 59 to 60, 70 mil exp to go from 59 to 60.

The game begins at 1, not at 60/i250.

Its too late (it was too late when they decided not to wipe characters after that last 2.0 open beta) to do it for 1-60, and they won't do it for 61-70, but the exp amount required to gain one level should be immense. Leveling up started out way too fast, and it has only gotten faster since.

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Originally Posted by Blackcanary

Now if it was a exp ring that gave you a little bit extra exp that would be cool like they had in FF11 but even that had a limit to it. I think it had like a timer on it or something and once you had use it all up you had to wait for the time to reset before you can use it again.

Ether way, what ever SE decide to do the should be a limit to it. It's not about everything in this game being change to make life easy for people who keep complaining.

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This kinda does exist already, the brand new ring from hall of novice gives exp bonus with the only limitation is that the bonus only applies to level 30, I know it's not a huge grind from 1-30 but that ring speeds up leveling of all combat classes to the point you unlock the jobs.

Exp scrolls for DoW and DoM already exist, farm GC Swadron rewards

I have all 60 with just roulette, and doing dungeon 3 times when in odd level for exp chain combo.

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Originally Posted by ErikMynhier

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Pretty much. My thing is, the leveling isn't SLOW, it's the fact that it's boring by now.
I'm sure that's how OP feels too, when you're leveling yet another job the 5th+ time you
get tired of it. If you really try you can get to 60 in about...2-3 days? My friend told me
he went from DRG 30 to 60 in 2 days by pure POTD 1-10 runs. Is it boring? Yes, but
it can save you repair time, buying gear, wait times and more...or do watch Netflix and do FATES or do dungeons....
Or wait the eventual Level Potion. I'd recommend POTD since even in Balmung, it's hard to come by people at FATES anymore
even in higher levels, everyone jumped the POTD wagon.
I mean pick your poison. No rush since 3.5 ain't till mid Jan anyways...

Seriously??? Its extremely easy to lvl up now compared to when arr 1st started dont need anything else to make it even easier ._.

Leveling in XIV is by far one of the fastest I've ever seen in an mmo. The only other being Jade Dynasty where you had an auto grind button and there was no exp diminish between certain levels (a lv80 could take a lv 5 for an afk killing spree), and Wonderland which had with an incredibly broken exp exploit.

The dungeons are perfectly spaced out where you can get 1-3 levels depending on how many enemies you bother killing and move on to the next. If you're a slight bit off, speed running collectathon leves without fighting mobs will get you where you need to be. Now, field classes like Fishing I can see wanting more of a boost. Still, Food+friendship feather(if you got it anyways)+FC buff+exp ring= exp+bonus%

Though I do agree, it is boring. Fast, but boooooring.

They already added this recently. Look up Palace of the Dead.

Leveling is already easy in this game.
You have many ways to gain EXP.

- Dungeons.
- Palace of The Dead.
- Daily Roulettes.
- Leavequests.
- Beast Tribe.
- Fates.
- Challenge Log.
- Collectables. (For crafters and gatheres)
- Grand Company turn-ins. (For crafters and gatheres)

Use food for extra 3% EXP gain and having FC buff 'Heat of Battle' will help even more.

Beast Tribes (Vanu/Gnath, especially)
Roulettes
PotD
Dungeons
Challenge log

Even if you just poke at it a couple times a day, you'll level jobs up in no time.

levlling is easy enough (particulary with potd in the mix now) but levelling eveything is also kinda pointless, as you'll never be able to gear them all because of the ridculous eye-dropper gearing system. I can see why some just log in every Tuesday and then are gone for the week.

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Originally Posted by HiroKirito

This kinda does exist already, the brand new ring from hall of novice gives exp bonus with the only limitation is that the bonus only applies to level 30, I know it's not a huge grind from 1-30 but that ring speeds up leveling of all combat classes to the point you unlock the jobs.

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There we go you just shown another way to get fast exp. We already have one fast way to get to 1-30. Like Hirokirito stated. Only reason why 50-60 takes long is because doing fates can be a boar and doing the same dungeons over again gets boaring will fast to. Then there is tones of other things to do to get exp quickly. Seems like people just don't want to do the work and put the full hour's needed to have every job at level 60. Like I stated I get it trying to level all jobs will get boaring will fast if that happens then take a brake from the game period.

If this type of comments continue I'm gonna tell you now Level 60 to level 75 is no longer gonna be any type of challenge at all. Everything will be dumbed down fast exp will full from sky and trees.

Like I said before if you want a jump potion that's fine but there must be a limitation to how many times you can you use this on your character.