Fishing

Ai yi yi with that darn Shonisaurus...Is anyone else having as much difficulty?:(

I only have namitaro, I gave up for those fishes for now, maybe next year I regain my crushed will.

I think the big fish at crescent cove took me the longest to get of all the old ones; longer than any of the legendary quest fish. Now I'm working on the fish from the most recent patch but I don't get to do it as much as I want due to waiting for certain weather to happen. The one at Mok Oogl Island doesn't seem to bite very often.

i finished the whole quest within 9 days, that was before patch 2.5, so no HQ buff ^^
at the same time i was fishing all the other big fish, wich took around 1 month (except one, see below xD), so i had literally no waiting times, there was always one fishing window open.

i think i was pretty lucky with shonisaurus, caught it in my second window.

however, it took me 3 months(!) to catch Floating Boulder, and that's just a normal big fish... (and yes, i was fishing almost every day).

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Originally Posted by RyuSaarva

I only have namitaro, I gave up for those fishes for now, maybe next year I regain my crushed will.

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Someone add a hug.jpeg for this guy please.

Well I finally caught that Shonisaurus - that was a walk in the park compared to the Namitaro! For all you fishers out there trying for the Namitaro utilize Patience ll so you catch the Giant Takitaro when you get the fisher's intuition switch to the frog use CHUM - be fast about it as you only get 2 casts. Also when reeling in just use powerful hookset.- you don't need precision. I did lose it three times before finally catching it so don't give up. Keep trying! Garland's tools and Cat are great helpful tools for the skywatcher. Also don't keep reeling in when trying wait for that really good tug. Good Luck!!

why would you use patience 2? its useless for giant takitaro and namitaro aswell, both arent mooches

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

why would you use patience 2? its useless for giant takitaro and namitaro aswell, both arent mooches

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The High Chance Buff still comes from Patience II, so likely it'll increase the Chance that Namitaro bites in the end.

If you use Patience I / Patience II you don't really need those for Mooched / Non-Mooched Stuff.

You literally can use it anywhere but still have to use the right Hookset in the end.

If there is a Lv.60 1* Fish I might aswell use Patience II so the Chance increases that it bites in the end =P

the buff of patience II increases the seize of the fish, but not the likelihood of "big fish" to bite. Bigger Fish doesnt mean Big Fish in this case.
You can see that with the new "legendary" fish (opabinia, problematicus and co). You cant actually catch them in HQ, even under the effect of Patience II. If you use patience II they'll nearly have HQ seize, but are still NQ. If you catch them without, then they always have about half of that seize


the buff is completely useless

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

Blubb

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I doubt this. High Quality Fish usually have already a higher Size, you can see this when you do Aetherial Reduction via Pteranodons.
Given the Fact, the Patience II Buff itself gives 80% HQ Chance, why would the "Big Catch" Buff influence the size of a Fish to match that of an HQ Fish?

Where is the source of that of what you speak of, as the German Version states "Chance auf einen großen Fang erhöht" literally means "the Chance of a Big Catch is increased".

If this is true what you have stated, well, Square Enix should asap fix this and add correction to the Buff Discription as it truly causes confusion.

Given the Fact I was under that believe for the last 23.774 Fish I have caught so far... this is Indeed cruel then and should teach me for the worst to come...

patience II allows you to fish collectables, even if your perception is too low to get the fish as HQ. You have to hit a base 1% HQ rate that the +80% patience II bonus works (same with miner and botanist HQ rate buffs)

I mostly spam the skill that decrease the time for which takes the bait for big fish with short window.

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

You have to hit a base 1% HQ rate that the +80% patience II bonus works (same with miner and botanist HQ rate buffs)

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Proof, asap, Please.

I never saw a Window where the Percental Chance of High Quality popped up as a Fisher.

Miner/Botanist have that Information contained in the Slots for their Nodes, but Fishers do not have these Numbers, like 1% Base HQ Rate, lmao.

That's completely buggus.

Perception doesn't work that Way for Fisher, it's a useless stat, simple.

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Originally Posted by Mwynn

Proof, asap, Please.

I never saw a Window where the Percental Chance of High Quality popped up as a Fisher.

Miner/Botanist have that Information contained in the Slots for their Nodes, but Fishers do not have these Numbers, like 1% Base HQ Rate, lmao.

That's completely buggus.

Perception doesn't work that Way for Fisher, it's a useless stat, simple.

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there is no window, the info is hidden, but its the only explanation, why you cant get problematicus, opabinion, charibenet, raimdellopterus, the armorer and sea butterfly in HQ, even under the effect of patience II. Same with shonisaurus back in 2.0. Fishers had to use Perception food, it was impossible to get a HQ mahar without

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

there is no window, the info is hidden, but its the only explanation, why you cant get problematicus, opabinion, charibenet, raimdellopterus, the armorer and sea butterfly in HQ, even under the effect of patience II.

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There generally is too less Informations about the 3.5 Big Fish. Unless People figure the Way out of to catch them, everything is rumored, that goes also for your "1% Base HQ Rate" thing.

Let alone the biggest FFXIV Fishing Website doesn't have the needed Informations about them, which is pretty much normal after a Patch.

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Originally Posted by Mwynn

There generally is too less Informations about the 3.5 Big Fish. Unless People figure the Way out of to catch them, everything is rumored, that goes also for your "1% Base HQ Rate" thing.

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everything that is required is known..lol, they simply require stats that are higher than the usual pentameld 190 gear has. You cant get them without gathering food, you cant HQ them without perception food (even under patience II)

the HQ rate with Patience II stays simply 0% if your perception is too low

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

everything that is required is known..lol, they simply require stats that are higher than the usual pentameld 190 gear has. You cant get them without gathering food, you cant HQ them without perception food (even under patience II)

the HQ rate with Patience II stays simply 0% if your perception is too low

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Where do you get the Information, just because 3.4 Miner/Botanist Nodes have that System (and previous Patches too), it doesn't have to be the same as for Fisher.
Like it matters, I'm just curious in the end *lol*

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Originally Posted by Mwynn

Where do you get the Information

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all recorded fish of the 6 new legandaries (ff14angler) are NQ, most of them were caught under the effect of patience II. The ones that I got are same size or bigger than the recorded ones, so I can say for sure that they are NQ

The only logical conclusion is, that Patience II has no effect on the HQ rate, when your perception is too low, but it still increases the seize of the fish (which is proven, if you compare seize numbers)

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

The only logical conclusion is, that Patience II has no effect on the HQ rate, when your perception is too low, but it still increases the seize of the fish (which is proven, if you compare seize numbers)

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Well thats how Miner/Botanist Folklore Nodes work, if you sit on 859 Gathering, the Node automatically triggers 0% Gather Chance, any Ability that increases Gather Chance won't work.
So that would be Indeed Logical. Square Enix should correct the Description of the Patience II Buff that you get, so many wasted Attempts for Feast of Famine due of Patience II usage...

Thanks though, I think this teached me >.<