Self Aoe
Consumes all MP to deal damage to all enemies within range. Chance to inflict Bind.
All Mp is a little drastic, and this makes me believe that this is a "OH SHIT" move to get away from danger. Yoshi-P has said that FFXIV will develop into the type of game that requires crowd control and hate management for future content and i could imagine players failing in that aspect thus getting hate as a WHM and needing a move such as this one.
But the all MP aspect of this move puts it on a tier of its own. To justify this the move must be extremely powerfull making it similar to a WHM "Super(2 hour)" ability instead of a whm regular ability. Will this move turn into a Oh shit we are failing gather up and WHM bomb type thing? If so then im against this because i would like an ability i could use on a regular basis and not just when we are fucking up.
Could something like deal damage to all enemies within range. Chance to inflict Bind, and silenced for X amount of seconds work better than simply exauhsting all of my MP? The only way i could see this working is if our MP regen is through the roof.
If the devs truly want this to be some sort of super whm bomb thing then il have to deal with it, but if the devs simply wanted a form of punishment for a good move then i suggest rethinking this one. Other than that im happy with the changes.
[dev1206] WHM Mag. 3
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11-19-2011, 05:10 AMMindx3[dev1206] WHM Mag. 3
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11-19-2011, 05:20 AMEstellios
If it doesn't have a minimum mp cost I'm thinking it would be nice to use when you're out of MP and before using the new ability that grants you stored MP.
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11-19-2011, 05:21 AMMindx3i could see it working like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Estellios
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11-19-2011, 05:22 AMVerecund
This spell does sound a bit gimmicky... but it could depend on how strong the spell is and how MP regen will be handled.
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11-19-2011, 05:23 AMEstellios
If the AOE is large enough and the bind effect is reliable enough I really do think it could be a useful "oh crap run away ahhh" type move too =P
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11-19-2011, 05:23 AMJinko
Whm mag 3. = PVP boom spell !!
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11-19-2011, 05:25 AMviion
lol yeh pvp!
Looking forward to trying this skill out. -
11-19-2011, 05:25 AMVingtdeux
Wait and see, then comment ?
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11-19-2011, 05:26 AMgrandm
maybe this spell is holy
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11-19-2011, 05:28 AMStarlord
I think this spell is a: Omg were about to die.. WHM USE YOUR EXPLOSION NOW!!! SAVE US ALL!!!! <3
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11-19-2011, 05:28 AMviionWhy publish the information and ask for feedback if we are supposed to "Wait and See" ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vingtdeux
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11-19-2011, 05:32 AMJinko
It looks like whm is getting bendiction (WHM Abl. 2)or something close to it, so thats whm "oh shit we guna dieeeee !!!"
WHM mag.3 is "oh shit we really guna diieee" ..... this time !! -
11-19-2011, 05:38 AMVanguard319
hmm, they don't have ninja, and I guess they needed someone to portray the fanatical suicide bomber role. Looks like whm is our tactical nuke.
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11-19-2011, 05:40 AMMindx3
Lol just had the thought of a WHM fighting ifrit exploding randomly in a huge holy explosion and losing all of his/her MP and causing a wipe.
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11-19-2011, 06:45 AMDreadnoughtNo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vingtdeux
anyway, im starting to wonder who will out damage who.
i dont see any sign of BLM being the greater nuker since there isnt any "increase magic damage" abilities.
also, WHM has access to nukes, non gimped heals, non gimped buffs ( SS and PROT) and an ultimate attack, which BLM only has a few basic nukes, wouldnt WHM be the all around desired mage class since it can do everything now leaving BLM virtually useless (in comparison)? -
11-19-2011, 07:05 AMEstellios
^^^
THM/BLM looks like it can combo Fire spells to cast significantly quicker so the damage adds up. The Thunder line looks like it focuses on magic crits which is also a significant boost to damage. I do think THM gets more INT than CNJ does too.
Edit: Also BLM gets a Thunder spell that finishes a combo and does more damage at lower HP. So you can abuse Convert's leaving you with Low HP ;) -
11-19-2011, 07:10 AMDreadnoughtabuse converts? are you assuming convert wont be on a 30 min cool down? even if it were a 10 min cool down i wouldnt exactly call it the ability to abuse lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Estellios
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11-19-2011, 07:12 AMEstellios
Hey if you avoid AOE/don't take hate you can keep your HP as low as you want =P I think convert might be on maybe a 5 minute timer, it depends on how fast BLM goes through its MP.
People already did it in 11 for the sorcerer's ring, although that was 75% hp or less that triggered it. -
11-19-2011, 07:31 AMOrophinKeep in mind we haven't even seen any of the TRAITS yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreadnought
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11-19-2011, 09:27 AMJinkoI actually think that refers to the targets HP not yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Estellios
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11-19-2011, 09:29 AMAnswa
2hr. FFXIV style
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11-19-2011, 10:03 AMTonkra
reminds me of the summoner 2H abillity in Final Fantasy XI...
"Astral Flow"... consumed all MP and massive damage