Old Cool Armor

I been trying to research armor sets, mostly Lore sets, and while at it noticed how Lore sets are bought with different tome currencies, and that many of the old currencies are considered obsolete, and if I understood it right, some of the stuff is entirely gone from the vendors.

By now the old stuff is not competitive, but there are some things I look at and really want just for the sake of looks. So my question is: are there any ways to still acquire these old armor sets? Or once these are gone, they gone for good?

I'm fairly certain that every piece of gear in this game, outside of timed or seasonal events, is still acquirable. Any armor that used to be bought with Tomes are usually just moved elsewhere.

What armor were you seeking?

Well, I am still detangling the web of information, but was looking at this:
http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wi...agan_Tomestone

It says some tomes like Allagan Tomestone of Esoterics have been removed from the original vendor in patch 3.4. I think the dragoon gear (if i saw the right link) looked awesome and would love it at least for glamour eventually. I cant find information on the consolegameswiki about where else that gear could be aquired now, and the old vendor page seems to be broken... so... super lost.

The i70 gear is found in some of the 50 dungeons, the i90 can be exchanged by some dungeondrops. i100 can be bought with allied seals and the upgrade items for this with poetics. i170 and i200 can be bought with centurio seals, also the upgrade for item 170 to 180. upgrade items 200 to 210 can be exchanged by the mhachi drop from VA.

Thanks! So, I'm guessing eventually the.... hmm forgot level... Lore set will be "phased out" and given a new way to acquire it? Given it's the second best set, is there still a weekly timer on how many tomes are earbable towards it?

I found the look of the Scripture set quite lackluster and would love to eventually aim to have it but to still glamor as Lore.

(And yea, know I'm getting way ahead of myself since I'm only lvl 48

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Originally Posted by Ogulbuk

Thanks! So, I'm guessing eventually the.... hmm forgot level... Lore set will be "phased out" and given a new way to acquire it? Given it's the second best set, is there still a weekly timer on how many tomes are earbable towards it?

I found the look of the Scripture set quite lackluster and would love to eventually aim to have it but to still glamor as Lore.

(And yea, know I'm getting way ahead of myself since I'm only lvl 48

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Lore tomes don't have a weekly cap, only the current highest tomestones do (Scriptures). Since it's the last set of tomestones for this expansion, Lore tomes won't be phased out until the next expansion's patch (4.0)

Thanks for the info! You guys been very helpful!

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Originally Posted by Legion88

... the i90 can be exchanged by some dungeondrops. ...

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For jobs going through the level 45 and 50 job quests now, the i90 gear has been added as additional quest rewards. It's just for jobs (like my NIN) that fell in between, leveling after it was no longer available for tomes, but before it got added to the quests, that you need to do the trade from the Antique gear drops. (Which reminds me, I've been meaning to collect that Koga set for my NIN, maybe I'll run those dungeons tonight. Starting to get tired of my current glamour.)

Just like in ARR with Allied Seals, it seems like they're always moving the retired Tomestone sets in Heavensward to come from Centurio Seals, so always check with the Hunt NPCs.

Curios, how are these transitions usually handled? Let's say I have 100 Lore tomes. Expansion comes and I have not spent them, they no longer drop and items are moved somewhere else. What happens with my tomes, at least what has happened in the past? Do they become Centurio Seals? Do I keep them but am able to transform them into something else?

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Originally Posted by Ogulbuk

Curios, how are these transitions usually handled? Let's say I have 100 Lore tomes. Expansion comes and I have not spent them, they no longer drop and items are moved somewhere else. What happens with my tomes, at least what has happened in the past? Do they become Centurio Seals? Do I keep them but am able to transform them into something else?

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The gear from that tomestones will probably go to the centurio merchant and are from then on buyable from them with centurio seals. Your tomestones are more or less worthless but you can exchange them in Mor Dhona by Aurianna for the prior capped, now uncapped tomestones with a ratio of 4:1.

For your example when the next tomestone would come and/or Lore will just kicked out, you can exchange your 100 Lore tomes into 25 Script tomes by Aurianna in Mor Dhona.

Also most things like crafting mats, minions and other stuff from Lore tomes will probably go to Script tomes but their price will be halved. We saw that in ARR and i'm sure it will be handled the same way in HW.

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Originally Posted by Ogulbuk

Curios, how are these transitions usually handled? Let's say I have 100 Lore tomes. Expansion comes and I have not spent them, they no longer drop and items are moved somewhere else. What happens with my tomes, at least what has happened in the past? Do they become Centurio Seals? Do I keep them but am able to transform them into something else?

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You have one tome cycle in which to trade them in for the next tier up. At any given time, there will be:

• high level tomestones, the ones with a cap on the number you can get — the latest ones to be added
• low level tomestones, uncapped — the previous tier added
• obsolete tomestones — two tiers ago no longer drops and can no longer be used directly, but leftovers can be traded for the low-level tomestones one tier up the list.
• (tomestones from three or more tiers ago get removed from the game. If you haven't traded up yet, they're lost.)

When a new tier is added, the others get knocked down one level in that hierarchy.

But there is one exception to the loss of old tomestones after three or more tiers of new ones: The top tier from a previous level cap remains. We still have Tomestones of Poetics because they're the top (and now only) tier available to level 50 ARR players. I'd expect the same to happen with Tomestones of Scripture (or possibly its successor if there's another tier added before the next expansion). The last ones to be introduced during Heavensward patches will likely remain in the game permanently for level 60 content, even after Stormblood brings new ones for level 70.

It's also worth noting that the most-recently-deprecated tomestone has been useful for more than just exchanging for newer tomestones; some items like those for the relic weapon quest are still available for purchase using leftover Esoterics.

Anything about the future here is really just speculation and extrapolation, but I think the right theme is the focus on the level cap rather than figuring out how many iterations ago a tomestone was introduced. So we will indeed likely continue to have our Poetics for 50 and our Scripture for 60 whenever we start a new and long line of different tomestones for 70 stuff (Allagan Tomestones of ... Entertainment?).