Novice Network Woes

I created an alt a few days ago and I did not want to join the novice network but someone invited me to it without asking my permission first. This actually irritated me greatly because I could not leave the network of my own accord on my alt.

Inviting someone to the novice network should give an option to accept/decline just like Free Company and Linkshell invites work. I could have saved myself and the others on the network the headache/irritation.
Instead, I had to go onto my other account, join the novice network and then kick my alt because no other mentors in the network could figure out how to kick them.

Yes, I know I could just take off my beginner status, but I should not have to do it that way. It should ask me to confirm before just throwing me into the network without my permission.
Either that or /novicenetwork on/off should work for ALL characters to leave or join the network. Not just mentors.

/nastatus off is how you remove yourself and by kicking yourself, the kick is temporary, the system will re-add your Alt back to the network after around 3? hours iirc

They need to really make it to where you can decline that.

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Originally Posted by Seoulstar

They need to really make it to where you can decline that.

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right? i mean its just like joining a mega linkshell, worst part is everytime you log in as a mentor it tells you stuff like "do a playersearch and nivite all the leafs you can find" not even lying i find that odd. Also i think the hall of the novice should have a record book or something that lets novices willfully join without needing a mentor to invite them instead against their will, and at the least retalking to npc/book would let them leave without removing their status in case they want to come back

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Originally Posted by ADVSS

... leave without removing their status in case they want to come back

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I completely agree that it should allow you to accept or decline invitations. And after you're in the network, you should be able to leave if you don't like it, without having to remove your status. It's an absolutely horrible design as-is, forcing new players (who may not know how to turn it off) into a channel they haven't asked for and even taking over their chat output channel against their will.

However, as to the concern that you might want to come back another time, they did at least make removing the New Adventurer status reversible (which it wasn't at first). As long as you still meet the New Adventurer requirements (either under 168 hours, or still in ARR), you can turn your New Adventurer status back on again.

/nastatus off
/nastatus on

Yoshi P already stated why it doesn't ask for confirmation.

With the idea of displaying a confirmation window when the beginners receive an invite, there may be cases where new players don’t understand what the notice means, or where it can become a hassle if confirmation windows are constantly popping up because of mentor invites. With these cases in mind, we’ll continue to monitor the situation before we decide to make adjustments.

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Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron

Yoshi P already stated why it doesn't ask for confirmation.

With the idea of displaying a confirmation window when the beginners receive an invite, there may be cases where new players don’t understand what the notice means, or where it can become a hassle if confirmation windows are constantly popping up because of mentor invites. With these cases in mind, we’ll continue to monitor the situation before we decide to make adjustments.

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Well, their monitoring of the situation should include monitoring the fact that a significant number of of players are outraged at being forced into it against their will and having their chat output hijacked.

(And it can only turn into a bunch of confirmations popping up if players are turning down the invites, which indicates that putting them in the network they're trying to stay out of is the exact opposite of a solution. For that issue, a character setting to automatically decline would be the fix.)

I love the novice network but i know not everybody does tho ha

You can just ask how to leave if you don't like it, i was happy to get inside a novicelinkS when i started the game, and those who wanted to leave had the solution in less than a minute via mentors or novices used to this kind of needs

So you automatically get into the NN? not a "Player invites you into the Novice Network, would you like to join?"

I tackle this by turning off the Novice Network chat in my chatbox. So I'm still in it but I can't see anything being said so it's like it doesn't exist. However when I log in on these alts my chat is automatically set to respond to the Novice Network despite turning off its visibility. Slightly annoying and quite redundant.

They should let players completely blacklist themselves from participating in the Novice Network, but put said option in a sub-menu so that new players won't accidentally select it during normal play while experienced players could find it themselves.