No lesson was learned from Season 1 and the ques are dead again with Top 100 locked out, because it's not in people's interests to que and risk to lose a rating.
Isn't it time to make ratings deteriorating in Season 3? If you don't que and don't play you should make a place for those who que and play.
The Feast ques are dead again.
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10-19-2016, 03:31 AMSuperZayThe Feast ques are dead again.
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10-19-2016, 04:14 AMKai_Lee
I still see some players queuing up on the primal DC.
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10-19-2016, 04:29 AMZensho
Depends on which Data Center you are on my friend.
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10-19-2016, 05:01 AMAraxes
Well Chaos is pretty Dead now. I totaly get it. We often have unranked people trying to climb the ladder as soon as they see the rewards coming out. Im in the top 100 on a save spot and i dont wanna risk it tbh.
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10-19-2016, 06:03 AMKai_Lee
With 2 season to try to get, what's pretty much the same rewards minus the new headgear, that is a decent amount of time. Even I am in the top 100 and im not at all that good.
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10-19-2016, 06:16 AMFebrus
People are still queuing on Primal. In fact, queue times have actually increased in solo-queue over the last week, which ... doesn't really change much, to be honest.
The only people who are really at risk are the bottom 5 of the top 10, as they stand to lose their spot for a crown if someone bumps them too low, and the bottom 10 of the top 100, as they could potentially get bumped out of the top 100 by anyone climbing up the silver ladder. The point gap in the bottom 20 spaces isn't all that big, so anyone in those rankings is probably a little nervous. That said, there hasn't been much movement.
All the same, I still agree with the OP. Something has to be done about people who just ride an early win streak. The system basically encourages us to queue up in the first week or two while everyone is unranked/bronze and horde as much points as possible before taking a long vacation. That's just stupid. There's no excuse for there to be people in the top 100 who haven't queued since the first week. If you don't have to compete to win, then it's a mockery of competition. I can only imagine how the people on Aether feel about it, considering what their top 5 looks like. I'm glad Primal hasn't been that bad, but the fact that it can even happen at all is a joke. I don't know if rating decay is the answer, but something has to be done about it. -
10-19-2016, 06:22 AMKoltikRating decay is what's needed tbh. Right now if you get in a spot you want to be in, it becomes a question of why bother queuing and risk losing that spot? We all know how Feast is, especially with the horrible match making this season. Queuing just to throw the dice and hope you don't get a bunch of first timers on your team just isn't worth it. With decay you'd have to queue or you are guaranteed to lose that spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Februs
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10-19-2016, 06:32 AMFebrusDoesn't Chaos also have a smaller player pool, as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Araxes
Most of the data centres have around 10-13 worlds, but Chaos only has 8. I'd wager the average number of matches played is generally lower on your that data centre; although, I do see quite a few people with well over a 1000 under their belts. That's pretty impressive, especially if you compare it to some of the numbers on more populated data centres. Quality over quantity, I guess.
I often wonder how some of these players would stack up in the arena against one another. It would be nice if we could organize some X-Data Centre matches, if only for better queue times and to bring the more passionate players of the community a little closer together. -
10-19-2016, 01:43 PMZensho
If they had a dedicated cross data center server for feast and FL ques...for an ultimate pvp challenge, that would be insanely hawt. Talk about uniting a small pvp community in the whole game. (can we have it!?) plz ; ;
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10-19-2016, 02:45 PMNorleas
Someone can only feast for so long before becoming too bloated to feast anymore.
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10-19-2016, 05:42 PMAcronycal
Even if it wasn't dead you wouldn't be able to get in top 100. I've seen you play and your skills are below average. To further prove my point, you had 3 months to get in top 100. And I've seen you play often.
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10-19-2016, 07:23 PMEvangela
Please stay dead forever. So Frontline que can be a bit faster.
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10-19-2016, 11:35 PMSuperZayUmm... You have an achievement for 1k The Feast matches and only for 200 wins. No ranked achievements. Get off your high horse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acronycal
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10-20-2016, 02:24 AMVaeria
This was predicted lolol. On primal at least, from 7pm til 12am just about, everyones in 8 vs 8 (usually with a less than 5 min time) WAAAAAAY less toxic, less stress. Considering the ratio of those genuinely interested in rank to ppl thast just wanna throw some punches, can't see this as a shock at all.
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10-20-2016, 03:20 AMAcronycalWhat high horse ? I never said I was good. Also if you have been pvping for longer than I have then I'd expect you to play decently in your matches, not come whine on forums on the last week of season 2. I lost almost every match with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperZay
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10-20-2016, 03:38 AMClarkeAttackYou should already be in the top 100 .... if you're not made few questions to yourselfQuote:
Originally Posted by SuperZay
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10-20-2016, 03:40 AMKai_Lee
You don't have to be great to be in the top 100, there are players with 40ish winning ratio in the top 100, you just have to be dedicated.
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10-20-2016, 04:14 AMSuperZayThere are a few reasons for that. I don't only PvP in this game. At start of Season 2 for a few weeks I was busy with Palace of the Dead, and will be again at start of Season 3. I was first in the world to obtain all its weapons because I find it fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acronycal
In the Feast I'm not one trick pony, and I play all roles, and all of them have its own specifics which need a lot of experience to uncover. I don't have even 1k total matches yet, but I have over 150 wins as a bard and tank each and over 50 as a healer and caster, plus I'm playing some melee now. It takes time to master one role, but it's boring to play just one like most of you, and downside of this is win rate may be hit or miss depending on role. But I'm not affraid to take risks.
The point of this thread is if people are affraid to que when there are strong opponents or if there's no FC member in the opposite team who conviniently disconnects which I've witnessed several times, then they are not competitive players and their Gold/Top100 are fake and mean nothing. They are not real pvpers. -
10-20-2016, 04:27 AMFebrusThat has almost nothing to do with it. 3.4 is what killed the current queue line, not toxicity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vaeria
The same thing happened last season as well. Near the end, Top ranked players stopped queuing to protect their ranks and run current content, often playing catch up for any of the content they may have skipped while the season was active. To give you an example, my first time in PoTD, ever, was only 2 days ago. Even right now, there's a lot of top 100 players filling in the 8v8 queue only because they don't want to risk their standing this late in the season. We're queuing in that game mode because we're interested in our ranks, not the other way around. The fact that it happens to be stress free and fun is just an added bonus. -
10-20-2016, 04:30 AMWetel
tfw coolboixd has just become a maymay but doesn't even realise it : D
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10-20-2016, 04:32 AMKfLeX
I've been queuing 8 on 8 in the evening that pretty fun. Ranked got old fast with all the toxic talk. might try 3rd season. Yes I'm still bronze, but been practicing a lot with duels.
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10-20-2016, 04:39 AMFebrusI'm inclined to agree. My only concern is the matchmaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koltik
The concept of winning without playing grinds my gears, but I've been on too many losing streaks with new or first time players to not see the writing on the wall. Having a rating decay would force top-end players to queue, but the current matchmaking would also force them into matches with scrubs like me, or worse. They'd basically be damned if they did and damned if they didn't. Queues would be incredibly active all season long, but staying within the top 100 would almost be a gamble in itself.
Personally, I would really love to see a rating decay implemented, but not alone. SE would also have to make adjustments to either the matchmaking (which would be bad for queues and therefore contribute to decay anyway), or to point distribution (adjusting the amount won or lost based on rank/new player bonus/etc). It's not just a one and done fix. SE needs to sit down and take a good long look at it if they want to make an honest shot at having it function correctly.