Red Mage = Yda?

if you see the STORMBLOOD Teaser Trailer
in the red fighting Monk is Yda right?

http://i68.tinypic.com/2ez4q4n.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/t5t3qd.jpg

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Good eye, it certainly looks convincing enough to be Yda to me. Although, I don't see a connection to her being a red mage.

I do not believe she is a red Mage at all. I've always seen her as monk, and considering this new expansion is monk heavy... It makes sense for her to be monk.

Even though people say "she isn't Yda, she doesn't have the tattoo!!", I truely believe this lovely lady is Yda. Just because she lacks said tattoo, does not necessarily mean it's not her. The tattoo could've been fake *shrug* or maybe they didn't want spoilers. Who knows but the devs.

That was my first impression but there's no neck tattoo.

Or could it be a flashback? No tattoo would make sense then?

I'm fairly certain it is, the eye color/shape is the same. (I just rewatched that cutscene recently, heh) I don't think that was Red Mage, more likely Monk. Which would make sense since Yda is a Pugilist.

The neck tattoo placement could be underneath the necklace. It's pretty close.

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Originally Posted by Qojon

That was my first impression but there's no neck tattoo.

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Well it coul be some sort of flashback, before she left Ala Migho and got the tatoo. Plus, this is a big necklace at the bottom of the neck, where the tatoo usually is...

it's yda, but i doubt she is monk or red mage

all her move set don't match the monk style, more a dancer like. in the CG her movement are fluid and smooth, when monk in game are more about hard hitting attack than smooth movement. plus she have tons of kick, when monk (the midlander) is mostly fist. (fist of rahgr after all) she too use some attack with her clothes that look like dancer move.

Yup i directly thought it was a Dancer too. I'd prefer Red mage, i can barely imagine Someone dancing in a battlefield...
But aren't dancers dps/healers ? Is this also a teaser to tell us hybrid jobs will come ?

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Originally Posted by Celef

Well it coul be some sort of flashback, before she left Ala Migho and got the tatoo. Plus, this is a big necklace at the bottom of the neck, where the tatoo usually is...

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A flashback would then necessitate the Warrior of Light to be a time traveler. Which...I guess we are? We gave Cid his goggles and then there's the whole Alexander debacle...

People don't seem to understand that neck accessories such as a necklace, can be used to cover things such as tattoos. ODL.

http://i.imgur.com/bt7JdeE.png

http://i.imgur.com/MQNlGbu.jpg

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Originally Posted by MrsFluffyButt

People don't seem to understand that neck accessories such as a necklace, can be used to cover things such as tattoos. ODL.

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http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/arti...342416-000.jpg

See how the tats are almost up to her chin there?

http://i.imgur.com/bt7JdeE.png

That choker wouldn't hide them.

Also yes, very...very bueno.

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Originally Posted by Llynd

i can barely imagine Someone dancing in a battlefield...

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I think you're thinking about this a bit too literally. I mean we're not talking about stopping to do the macarena in the middle of a battle. Dancing is flowing movement. A dancer class, as a DPS, could just simply be that. Martial arts style fighting, with fast movements that flow smoothly from one technique to the next. Maybe a little footwork to be done.

Add a blade into their hand, and the flowing movements can become a quick flurry of slicing and dicing without having to worry about stopping to reposition their body parts. one strike leads into the next, one body movement flowing into another. it'd make good contrast to the brute force style of monk, and the spastic dagger flailing of ninja.

What would give you the idea shes a red mage....

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Originally Posted by SaitoHajime

What would give you the idea shes a red mage....

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from what everyone saying just going with the flow or she is dancer?

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Originally Posted by Dualgunner

A flashback would then necessitate the Warrior of Light to be a time traveler. Which...I guess we are? We gave Cid his goggles and then there's the whole Alexander debacle...

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Are we sure it's Derplander ? All we know is that he is hot as hell and a lot of player saw differences between the 2 of them that could hint to new customisation of charac or, as far as we know, a all new character.

http://67.media.tumblr.com/70dbfbb9b...lgbo2_1280.jpg
Derplander

http://i.imgur.com/H0qvBmk.png
Hot monk

I know it just a detail that can be explain by technology but Derp seems to have a scar on his forhead that the monk does not have and the face looks "longer" ^^"
http://cdn4.dualshockers.com/wp-cont...1-1024x576.jpg

(Sorry for the big pics but hard to find some smaller for now ^^")
I also like the idea of Yda having a sister leading the resistance while she ran away / had to run away. That could explain certain dialogues in the end of 3.4 MSQ

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Originally Posted by Dualgunner

Also yes, very...very bueno.

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Stil wondering how the hell they don't fall from that all regarding hole the movements xD

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/p...jpg?1467272231

Check out Yda's neck. No tattoo visible. So it's more than plausible that the lady in red is Yda, and they just removed the tattoo because of oversight or to prevent spoilers.

Yda or not, they did a beautiful job ^^

I wish our hair and gear flowed that realistic in game though ...

Probably not Yda, the lore book made an interesting reveal about her (second link) http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ok-Revelations

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

it's yda, but i doubt she is monk or red mage

all her move set don't match the monk style, more a dancer like. in the CG her movement are fluid and smooth, when monk in game are more about hard hitting attack than smooth movement. plus she have tons of kick, when monk (the midlander) is mostly fist. (fist of rahgr after all) she too use some attack with her clothes that look like dancer move.

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Not entirely true. Are you forgetting that battle system will get reworked? It is possible that monk will kick more. And this is a movie, you don't need to follow monk skills at max detail but movie give more freedom than in-game animations.

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Originally Posted by Celef

Are we sure it's Derplander ? All we know is that he is hot as hell and a lot of player saw differences between the 2 of them that could hint to new customisation of charac or, as far as we know, a all new character.

I know it just a detail that can be explain by technology but Derp seems to have a scar on his forhead that the monk does not have and the face looks "longer" ^^"

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he has the scar watch the trailer again

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Originally Posted by Dualgunner

A flashback would then necessitate the Warrior of Light to be a time traveler. Which...I guess we are? We gave Cid his goggles and then there's the whole Alexander debacle...

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The Warrior of Light has the Echo, which allows us to relive (and interact with) people's memories. If this is a flashback, it would be the lady in red's memory and not a case of time travel. What's missing is that annoying wavy colorless overlay they usually put on the Echo visions.

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Originally Posted by Dualgunner

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/arti...342416-000.jpg

See how the tats are almost up to her chin there?

http://i.imgur.com/bt7JdeE.png

That choker wouldn't hide them.

Also yes, very...very bueno.

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Game model, then there's a cinematic. We both could be wrong.

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Originally Posted by Celef

Are we sure it's Derplander ? All we know is that he is hot as hell and a lot of player saw differences between the 2 of them that could hint to new customisation of charac or, as far as we know, a all new character.

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Yoshi P referred to him as the Warrior of Light during the Keynote when referencing the trailer.

Even ignoring the tattoo discrepancy, she looks too smart to be Yda.

This debate is silly and useless at best and proves there's no hope for this community.


http://i.imgur.com/AIdMw4v.jpg

Compared to:

http://i.imgur.com/qymuG3t.jpg

That ain't Yda. /thread

I thought Alisaie was the red mage anyway.

You know sword + magic.

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Originally Posted by Toguro

This debate is silly and useless at best and proves there's no hope for this community.


http://i.imgur.com/AIdMw4v.jpg

Compared to:

http://i.imgur.com/qymuG3t.jpg

That ain't Yda. /thread

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Know one no Yda face this Compared fail

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Originally Posted by Cinno

I think you're thinking about this a bit too literally. I mean we're not talking about stopping to do the macarena in the middle of a battle. Dancing is flowing movement. A dancer class, as a DPS, could just simply be that. Martial arts style fighting, with fast movements that flow smoothly from one technique to the next. Maybe a little footwork to be done.

Add a blade into their hand, and the flowing movements can become a quick flurry of slicing and dicing without having to worry about stopping to reposition their body parts. one strike leads into the next, one body movement flowing into another. it'd make good contrast to the brute force style of monk, and the spastic dagger flailing of ninja.

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I know xD
Yet, if it's what you say, this is not a Dancer then, but more like a monk-ish. :/

In another of these fan fest threads, they say something along the lines of "YoshiP says we'll meet her in 3.5" .. that alone tells us its not Yda, as we've already met Yda.

1. The male is the WoL, which was confirmed by Yoshi himself; meaning that we didn't watch a flashback or someone else's memory. The echo doesn't actually make its user part of the memory, nor does it grant them the power to change or interfere with it.
2. With Stormblood being a Monk-centric expansion, it's safe to say that the female is a monk as well. There's a very slim chance of her being a Dancer but I doubt it.
3. The female could be Yda or an entirely new character. The missing neck tattoo isn't really that big of a deal considering SE had way bigger f*ckups during previous trailer/s, e.g. featuring Hraesvelgr as the antagonist of Heavensward instead of Nidhogg. Also there could simply be ways to remove/hide the tattoo which wouldn't be that far-fetched. Still, she could also be a new character and basically be our primary story-"companion" for Stormblood, maybe the WoL gets seperated from the Scions at first? She could also be closely related to Yda. We don't really know, it's all speculation at this point and we'll have to wait until 3.5, at the least, to know for sure.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

In another of these fan fest threads, they say something along the lines of "YoshiP says we'll meet her in 3.5" .. that alone tells us its not Yda, as we've already met Yda.

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That really doesn't say much. I think it's pretty safe to assume that Yda isn't actually Yda, which would mean that we haven't properly met her yet.

We might not know the "real" Yda, or everything about Yda, or even nearly as much about Yda as Papalymo knows about Yda, but I doubt that the Yda we know is a ringer for the "real" Yda. Everyone got changed somehow for their experiences in the Lifestream. Y'shtola, Thancred, they're not quite the same person they were prior to that experience. So expecting Yda (and Papalymo) to act exactly the same way they did prior to the Lifestream does not work.

And remember, all of the Scions accept that Yda is Yda. They have been fooled before (as recently as the events leading up to the main fight in 3.4) but I doubt that we are being fed another "Scions are deceived!" thing again, not quite so soon anyway.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

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I don't think Yda and Papalymo went into the Lifestream, though. So of course they would not be changed like Thancred and Y'shtola.

Also, as for "getting to meet her in 3.5", I think Koji mentioned that we'll maybe "find out who she is in 3.5".

I think the running theory that it's either Yda or her sister are the two best ones. I'm excited to find out!

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Originally Posted by SaitoHajime

What would give you the idea shes a red mage....

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Because she is wearing red, I guess.
For me, as a Red Mage her hands are too empty. No rapier.

Last time I checked all the ff games that I played that had a red mage used sword and spells not their fist.

The woman was clearly a dancer

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Originally Posted by Shiki_Lockhart

Not entirely true. Are you forgetting that battle system will get reworked? It is possible that monk will kick more. And this is a movie, you don't need to follow monk skills at max detail but movie give more freedom than in-game animations.

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the trouble is the monk that fight the red lady, is using the moveset of the actual monk.
and is not like a rework, is litterally a new fighting style*monk are mostly based on move like karate and such, quite straightforward and hard hitting

while the red lady move are more like kung fu smooth and fluid. same after the monk do the charge, she do her type of charge and the move is different too totally. finally an important part, the monk are often called the fist of Rahgr not the feet haha (joking on this one)

we can argue that it's a more female type of fighting, but we know that ingame they don't make move based on sex! then since it soo much different we can argue that it's a hint to a new class. the trouble is they can't really tell us it this without spoil the reveal of the next fan fest or the 3.5.

an important point about yda and the fact she is monk. thancred until the add of the ninja was called bard, even if all he was doing was throwing dagger. then yda can perfectly use monk moveset instead of her true jobs. especially since she is secretive about who she are.

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Originally Posted by aeoncs

1. The male is the WoL, which was confirmed by Yoshi himself; meaning that we didn't watch a flashback or someone else's memory. The echo doesn't actually make its user part of the memory, nor does it grant them the power to change or interfere with it.

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You can interact with the memory, but can't change the past (see all 1.0 cutscenes before the character join the Path of the Twelve)

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Originally Posted by Celef

Are we sure it's Derplander ? All we know is that he is hot as hell and a lot of player saw differences between the 2 of them that could hint to new customisation of charac or, as far as we know, a all new character.

http://67.media.tumblr.com/70dbfbb9b...lgbo2_1280.jpg
Derplander

http://i.imgur.com/H0qvBmk.png
Hot monk

I know it just a detail that can be explain by technology but Derp seems to have a scar on his forhead that the monk does not have and the face looks "longer" ^^"
http://cdn4.dualshockers.com/wp-cont...1-1024x576.jpg

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really, it's been quite some time since before, why would he never change appearance? every scion does, every major patch.
derplander is in every CG clip.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

We might not know the "real" Yda, or everything about Yda, or even nearly as much about Yda as Papalymo knows about Yda, but I doubt that the Yda we know is a ringer for the "real" Yda. Everyone got changed somehow for their experiences in the Lifestream. Y'shtola, Thancred, they're not quite the same person they were prior to that experience. So expecting Yda (and Papalymo) to act exactly the same way they did prior to the Lifestream does not work.

And remember, all of the Scions accept that Yda is Yda. They have been fooled before (as recently as the events leading up to the main fight in 3.4) but I doubt that we are being fed another "Scions are deceived!" thing again, not quite so soon anyway.

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That's not what I was saying. I'm simply saying that Yda is not her actual name but a persona she, or someone else for her, gave her to further hide her royal ancestry. You don't really think that the Ala Mhigan Anastasia has a name such as Yda, right? *g*
Her strange behaviour towards Gundobald and him talking about how Yda was full of fire and always ready for a mission 20+ years ago is a dead giveaway that there is, or was a person called Yda who was part of the resistance and that's definitely not the Yda we know. Also, as someone else already said, neither Yda nor Papalymo entered the Lifestream.
Apart from that, I don't really know yet how it all ties together and how our Yda relates to the one Gundobald was talking about.

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Originally Posted by Derio

Last time I checked all the ff games that I played that had a red mage used sword and spells not their fist.

The woman was clearly a dancer

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Last time I checked all the FF games I've played that had a Dancer in them, they used dances, magic, daggers/short swords or even staves, not powerful punches or kicks, let alone being able to use Chakra.
She is clearly a monk, with the very, very slight possibility of being a Dancer.

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Originally Posted by Felis

You can interact with the memory, but can't change the past (see all 1.0 cutscenes before the character join the Path of the Twelve)

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Fighting someone is a little bit more than interacting with a memory (;
The echo also doesn't allow its user to simply switch places with someone who was actually present.