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10-15-2016, 05:13 AM
DamianFatale

Red Mage hinted at

Yoshi had a Scarlet Witch T-shirt on, it's so obvious.
10-15-2016, 05:14 AM
AlexionSkylark

BYE WHM

IT WAS GOOD WHILE IT LASTED
YOU GAVE ME 2 EXPANSIONS OF JOY
BUT NOW MY BODY IS SPLURTING LIQUIDS OF EXTREME BLISS
AND THE LIQUID IS RED
10-15-2016, 05:15 AM
Ilenya

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Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark

BYE WHM

IT WAS GOOD WHILE IT LASTED
YOU GAVE ME 2 EXPANSIONS OF JOY
BUT NOW MY BODY IS SPLURTING RED LIQUIDS OF EXTREME BLISS

You may want to see a WHM about that...Oh.
10-15-2016, 05:16 AM
Zumi

Will rdm be dps or healer that is the question.
10-15-2016, 05:17 AM
Laerune

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Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark

BYE WHM

IT WAS GOOD WHILE IT LASTED
YOU GAVE ME 2 EXPANSIONS OF JOY
BUT NOW MY BODY IS SPLURTING LIQUIDS OF EXTREME BLISS
AND THE LIQUID IS RED

I take it this means you will play RDM, regardless of the role or are you hoping that it will be a healer?
10-15-2016, 05:18 AM
Greedalox

I know that these forums were really looking forward to having RDM, but it was literally the one class I didn't want to see. But the games not all about me!
10-15-2016, 05:18 AM
AlexionSkylark

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Originally Posted by Laerune

I take it this means you will play RDM, regardless of the role or are you hoping that it will be a healer?

B O T H

Given that both WHM and SCH can deal some DPS AND heal, it's not far-fetched to imagine it'll be a full-blown hybrid, but queueing as heal
Or even BETTER, it can queue as BOTH and have stances

I don't know, but I'll probably play as RDM no matter the role.
10-15-2016, 05:18 AM
DamianFatale

Also did anyone notice that the new main villain clearly looks like a Red Mage? That's the second time that we've seen the stance, and sword type.
10-15-2016, 05:21 AM
Kyuuen

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Will rdm be dps or healer that is the question.

Curve ball!

It'll be the tank!
10-15-2016, 05:23 AM
Ilenya

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Originally Posted by Kyuuen

Curve ball!

It'll be the tank!

Nah, curveball would be three stances chosen before queuing that would put you into whichever stance you chose for all 3 jobs. Jack of all trades, master of none, yes?
10-15-2016, 05:24 AM
Balipu

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Originally Posted by Kyuuen

Curve ball!

It'll be the tank!

All sword classes being tank? Hmmm Ah, who cares I would still play it for the rapier and the hat.
10-15-2016, 05:24 AM
Greedalox

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Also did anyone notice that the new main villain clearly looks like a Red Mage? That's the second time that we've seen the stance, and sword type.

My entire FC and Discord said SAMURAI at the same time. I don't get any RDM vibes from the Big Bad.
10-15-2016, 05:25 AM
Ilenya

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Originally Posted by CyrusBryant

Red Mage replacing White Mage? *rolls eyes* Please don't make me laugh.

As the job someone mains?
10-15-2016, 05:25 AM
Zarcoft

Great that means half the server will be RDM when they go live, can't wait to see the ques on that day.
10-15-2016, 05:26 AM
Zarcoft

Oh Wait so since he wore a Scarlet Witch Tee, that means RDM? WOW people are really stretching that could mean anything lol
10-15-2016, 05:28 AM
Greedalox

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Originally Posted by Zarcoft

Oh Wait so since he wore a Scarlet Witch Tee, that means RDM? WOW people are really stretching that could mean anything lol

You're aware he wore a Batman (Dark Knight)shirt to tease Dark Knight, and James Bond 007 for Machinist, right? It's less of stretch and more of a confirmed.
10-15-2016, 05:28 AM
Khaoticsuccubus

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Will rdm be dps or healer that is the question.

Indeed, as much as I want to squeal with excitement over my fave class being added as well... I can't help but be cautious in my enthusiasm. Please... Please don't screw up Red Mage... Please. T^T

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Originally Posted by Greedalox

You're aware he wore a Batman (Dark Knight)shirt to tease Dark Knight, and James Bond 007 for Machinist, right? It's less of stretch and more of a confirmed.

Not even to mention when they got to the new job page he purposefully stopped took off the jacket to reveal what shirt he was wearing and specifically said the only thing we're getting about new jobs right now is his shirt. I mean, it couldn't be anymore obvious if shoved it down our throats lol.
10-15-2016, 05:35 AM
silentwindfr

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Originally Posted by Zarcoft

Oh Wait so since he wore a Scarlet Witch Tee, that means RDM? WOW people are really stretching that could mean anything lol

please tell us what it can means when he have said that this t-shirt was a hint to one of the jobs coming.
10-15-2016, 05:38 AM
HighMarshal

If they use a sword and heal, I am hoping for a full on melee healer like Warhammer's War Priest of Sigmar or Disciple of Khaine.
10-15-2016, 05:39 AM
Zumi

Maybe they will be melee healer where you have to dps in order to heal
10-15-2016, 05:42 AM
Lunavi

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Maybe they will be melee healer where you have to dps in order to heal

That would be great. :) Would teach some healers how to heal properly... :/
10-15-2016, 05:48 AM
Edenholt

He showed the shirt and went all:

http://i.imgur.com/KKcRJjq.jpg
10-15-2016, 05:49 AM
Anova

I'm getting a very strong Wuxia vibe recently from ff14. The Far Eastern garb and now this trailer with a monk and a woman in red.

I wonder if the woman was actually the RDM. It's not a far stretch to combine spell and fist together, especially since we already have chakra, and they did suggest that the Monks were only the martial arm of Ala Mhigo's religious order. It makes me wonder if RDM serve as Rhalgr's priests.

If it is the RDM in the trailer, it seems to combine monk and dancer, so we might see the offensive healer everyone was asking for, complete with their own unique stance for healing and dps (it's shown in the trailer!). It's still a big step away from canon where the magic traditions of RDM take on more mystical connotations though.

Still, the previous trailers showed off the AF gear, so it's not hard to imagine RDM wearing a Red cloth armor.
10-15-2016, 05:53 AM
AlexionSkylark

Non-Swashbuckler RDM?
don't you even joke about that
10-15-2016, 06:15 AM
Arasiel

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Will rdm be dps or healer that is the question.

Million Til question
10-15-2016, 07:50 AM
Radacci

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark

BYE WHM

IT WAS GOOD WHILE IT LASTED
YOU GAVE ME 2 EXPANSIONS OF JOY
BUT NOW MY BODY IS SPLURTING LIQUIDS OF EXTREME BLISS
AND THE LIQUID IS RED

i'm thinking: there's 3 tanks, 3 healers, 3 dex jobs.
2 casters, and 2str jobs...
so we'll get an int job and a str job.
caster-rdm and dps-sam.
so you might want to hold on to your whm :)
10-15-2016, 07:53 AM
AlexionSkylark

There some pretty nifty discussion in the other topic speculating RDM could be an int-based tank. I'd say it makes sense.
10-15-2016, 08:01 AM
Thunda_Cat_SMASH

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Originally Posted by Kyuuen

Curve ball!

It'll be the tank!

I sure hope so. Healer would be the biggest mistake for red mage that there could possibly be, even more so than arcanist having two branching jobs. We already have a dps centric healer in scholar, we don't need another.

I'd rather see an RDM dps before healer.
10-15-2016, 08:10 AM
Ilenya

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

I sure hope so. Healer would be the biggest mistake for red mage that there could possibly be, even more so than arcanist having two branching jobs. We already have a dps centric healer in scholar, we don't need another.

I'd rather see an RDM dps before healer.

Technically you'd want another DPSing healer so that someone could actually share duty with SCH. Makes it so that SCH don't tend to be the go-to off-healer.
10-15-2016, 08:16 AM
Thunda_Cat_SMASH

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

Technically you'd want another DPSing healer so that someone could actually share duty with SCH. Makes it so that SCH don't tend to be the go-to off-healer.

Nah, I wouldn't use an off healer, I'd just use another dps. RDM needs something unique, not to be a carbon copy.
10-15-2016, 08:17 AM
Ilenya

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

Nah, I wouldn't use an off healer, I'd just use another dps. RDM needs something unique, not to be a carbon copy.

No, no, I meant in general for a new healer. It's why Dancer has so much traction as a healer job in the first place.
10-15-2016, 08:20 AM
Thunda_Cat_SMASH

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

No, no, I meant in general for a new healer. It's why Dancer has so much traction as a healer job in the first place.

Yes, Dancer fits as a healer job, not RDM. If they released two healer jobs at once ghose queues would be flooded. Regardless, healer doesn't suit RDM because they've always had elements of tankyness, melee, defensive, support, and aggressive magic. Healer would at best only fit two of those five skillsets, especially with the prevalent dps meta. There's also already a support focused healer in AST.
10-15-2016, 08:22 AM
Ilenya

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

Yes, Dancer fits as a healer job, not RDM. If they released two healer jobs at once ghose queues would be flooded. Regardless, healer doesn't suit RDM because they've always had elements of tankyness, melee, defensive, support, and aggressive magic. Healer would at best only fit two of those five skillsets, especially with the prevalent dps meta. There's also already a support focused healer in AST.

I'm not saying RDM should be a healer. I'd imagine it being more of a support DPS like BRD/MCH than a pure damage caster like BLM/SMN.
10-15-2016, 08:23 AM
Thunda_Cat_SMASH

Fair enough. I personally see rdm as being a tank. THAT'S ALL I NEED TO BE HAPPY.
10-15-2016, 08:48 AM
Deedsie

I just don't want Red Mage to be in the healer slot. I'd prefer it as a damage dealer, but can live with it as a tank. I don't want it to be healer except maybe for itself.
10-15-2016, 08:50 AM
ErikMynhier

Not a popular opinion but still my opinion. Red Mage would make a fun tank, just saying. Let the dps have Samurai or whatever.
10-15-2016, 08:56 AM
Xyrn86

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Will rdm be dps or healer that is the question.

DPS, anything else is just wrong...
10-15-2016, 08:59 AM
Xikeroth

A Red Mage Healer isn't a Red Mage, It's a Pink mage and spits on everything Red Mage has been since day 1.

Edit: Best way they could do RDM is to make it a Hybrid, locking you to a specific role before entering content so that way it wouldn't be OP and deal great DPS, and healing (RDM is the only mage in FF that has been able to wear dragoon level armor as long as it's been around. They won't give that degree of gear to a healer or caster.)
10-15-2016, 09:02 AM
MomomiMomi

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Originally Posted by Xikeroth

A Red Mage Healer isn't a Red Mage, It's a Pink mage and spits on everything Red Mage has been since day 1.

It's more RDM than a tank would be. Healer roles have offensive spells, too. Just slap a sword in its hand and there it is, RDM.
10-15-2016, 09:20 AM
Xikeroth

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

It's more RDM than a tank would be. Healer roles have offensive spells, too. Just slap a sword in its hand and there it is, RDM.

Problem with that is very simple, the majority of Red Mage fans do not want to be a healer only. (In fact thats why a lot of people I knew in ffxi quit rdm or quit ffxi) Which is why I think making it a DPS with the ability to throw a support cure would be more accurate since RDM was never intended to be able to replace a healer in any way shape or form. Not to mention no one would complain in that case if the red mage was too focused on DPS.

RDM is supposed to be a hybrid, while being a jack of all trades just doesn't work in the style of mmo we're in. Giving it different stances that can not be changed in combat or in duty that change the abilities of the player to be more dps or healing focused wouldn't harm it at all and you'd be pleasing two groups of people.

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