Crazy yet somewhat plausible theories... Thread

So... Shitty, crazy, almost plausible theories...

i wanna hear 'em from y'all


So about the first verse of the Sophia theme.
I have my interpretation of it which i'd like to share

The song of the shifting sea,
We are by the sea. So good so far.

The kiss of the salt-sweet breeze,
Again, its the sea...

The warmth of her silken dress,
Now this is where my new idea lies, what else do we know that is soft and warm and often found by the sea? Sunlight!

Stained in red...
Its a sunset! or sunrise.



Who else is godly, sun associated, and a goddess?

Azeyma

But now you say: But Enur, Sephi was azeyma's inspiration not sophi

Correct! i answer But, what if the whole triad was based on Azeyma.

A snippet of Azeymas Gamerescape entry:
She is most often depicted as a noble lady holding a golden fan. Her symbol is the radiant sun, and may have a connection to truth as a whole, as she is said to console all who would confess to their crimes.

So Azeyma is a god who deals with justice. Equality.

Equilibrium.

And where have we seen such a thing? Ul'dah!

And Bela'dia... which was built upon mysterious ruins.... Which have cat statues...

Miqo'te are from meracydia. Sophia was from meracydia.



You see where im going with this? have i found something? Will Zurvan be based on the sun god aswell? Am i crazy for seeing the correlation?

Based on this:

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As can be seen from existing Allagan artifacts (runestones (from 1.0) inscribed with the symbols of the Twelve), Twelve worship existed in the 3rd Astral Era (before eventually losing steam amongst the Allagans as their civilization became increasingly scientifically advanced). When the Allagans first visited Meracydia, they were surprised to find a symbol almost identical to that used for Azeyma, the Warden being prominently featured in various types of architecture. Further research, however, revealed that the Meracydians they encountered did not worship Azeyma, but instead a deity named Sephirot, the Fiend, and that the symbol was being used to mean something similar, but ultimately different.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3572906

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I am starting to think that Meracydians (beast tribes and man) believed in a Sun deity who may have been Azeyma but has changed to be something different as time passed on in Meracydia. So I suppose Zurvan could represent a different aspect of Her?

Who knows? Maybe both Sephirot and Sophia were both talk about Azeyma in their lyrics?

Hopefully somebody asks them the question in Fanfest

Is the place where people just go crazy? Well... your self-styled detective is here if you would indulge him after all the flak he gives everyone else. I need to do this, lest I lose the opportunity to say "Well, I sure hope someone picks up that phone." like I did with not saying that Zodiark is the moon.

1. Ilberd is the Griffin
-I'm not looking at hacked models. His MO and personality fit Ilberd's situation, though.

2. Ilberd The Griffin will be, ironically, what mends our hostile relationship with Garlemald
-He's gonna get Omega up and running with Nidhogg's eyes and force us to work with Garlemald to take it down. Relations will improve (or at least hostilities will cease) as a result.

3. The Twelve are based on the Ascians
-If I remember right, there was a legend that an old incarnation of Rhalgr, or a Warrior of Light from a bygone era, eventually joined the Ascians. Maybe people had it the other way around; time tends to distort history. Perhaps, back when light and dark were in harmony, mortals walked alongside the Ascians, but Zodiark's seizing of power and Hydaelyn's subsequent banishment of Him, along with Her use of us as tools to keep Him locked away and the world in a state that "should not be," they now despise us instead. They're largely unseen in history, and so history has distorted their memory into the Twelve - our deities. "Knowledge colors expectation, and expectation colors perception" - we have forgotten their true forms, their status as "deities," and so created deities to give their abilities to. 12 gods, 12 Ascians... hmm.

Absolutely crazy!

4. Midgardsormr can't die because his aether is too alien to fully integrate into Hydaelyn's lifestream
-Like a voidsent. This explains the First Brood's infamous durability, but having been born and raised on Hydaelyn, they've integrated enough of Her aether to be vulnerable to death - it just takes a damn lot. Remember: the aether of dead things returns to the land, and if Midgardsormr's can't... well. Or maybe it's just a part of his pact with Hydaelyn.

My SAN would have to be eroded to say much more, because I'm very logical and dispassionate.

I believe this may be a clue or hint as to what the twelve actually are, or were, in this case.

Remember the Azim steppe in othard


So azim/azeyma appears from Othard to Meracydia. Quite perculiar that no other "twelve" has similar references.

Makes me wonder what part of the puzzle we're missing.

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Originally Posted by Enur

But Enur, Sephi was azeyma's inspiration not sophi

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I dunno; I think there's a case to be made for plenty of connections between Azeyma and Sophia.

I mean, down to the red horns.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cs5Jtr8XgAA_YgD.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cs5JuR0XEAAPQRS.jpg

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Azeyma is theoretically based on Egyptian sun goddesses; pretty much anyone related to the Eye of Ra, especially Wadjet, Bast, Shekmet ... even even Maat, Ra's daughter, whom interestingly is associated with order and holds the balance scales. (Hells, even Qarn has a little bit of the Ancient Egypt thing going on.) And Egypt associated divinity and royalty with the winged sun. The big head could be a literal representation of the GODHEAD via the mofits of the sun disc, with the wings coming right out of the face.

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Granted I'm not overly familiar with the Sophia being invoked (who varies quite a bit over time), so the references might be more obvious.

I'm less certain about the idea that Sophia came first, though. If Eorzea is as special as everyone in Eorzea seems to think it is (and let's not dismiss the possibility of self-interest biases having an effect on our mythology), then all people and tales might have migrated out of Eorzea to begin with. The "seeds of faith" that led to Azeyma / Azim / Sophia might all have progenitors in an Eorzea during the Age of the Gods / Prehistory. We know too little about the age before the First Umbral Calamity to be too sure about anything.

This one might be a little boring and yet probably too crazy (but still will be my head cannon till the story tells me otherwise):

We are a direct daughter/son of Hydaelyn.

She calls us beloved daughter/son more than once I believe and we also seems to not have any kind of family in the world, or at least we seem to not care much about our own past.(I know this was probably because they wanted to give us the chance to write our own story) And to make it even better our daddy is Zodiark. *insert Star Wars reference here*

In the end we will be the balance that the world needs because we have both sides in us and thus we can use both the Crystal of Lights and Darkness. [Or we will just use our puppy eyes on daddy!Zodiark to convince him that balance is great and that he should make up with mom!Hydaelyn]

At least the part with being a direct creation of Hydaelyn would make a little sense, the rest is probably pure nonsense. (But kinda funny imo)

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I'm less certain about the idea that Sophia came first

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I apologize, i never intended to imply that.
It still bugs me that the only god we have any connection with outside of "the Twelve" is Azeyma. Wasnt there also a church of azeyma in 1.0? with a single Roe in Drybone advocating for it today.

Welp, time for an even flimsier theori:
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Ala Mhigo, Highlanders and Mhach. I know i already shared an incomplete version in ages past. I have now completed it


So on the topic of highlanders we know that they are from Ala Mhigo and that they came in the first Hyuran Invasion.

We also know that Royal Allagans were eerily similar to midlander hyurs save for eye colour.

I believe that Highlanders and Lalafells lived together in Mhach during the war of the magi, and that soon after the calamity flooded the world, the remnants split into two groups:

The Magi and the Destroyers.

We know that Ala Mhigans got a new irish/welsh (im bad at recognizing accents) accent in HW
The void ark and weeping have bosses from irish mythology; Forgall, Chuchulainn, Scathach
Highlander statues in Mhach, possibly depicting Rhalgr due to meteor in hand.
Rhalgr is often depicted as a mage weilding a bronze staff
Rhalgr was the deity of Ala Mhigo
Ala Mhigo = Allag Mhach?!

What if, after the flood, the lalafells of Mhach (name dropped: Shattoto in the city, possibly lalafell name) realized that excessive use of magic was bad and went south into thanalan and founded Belah'dia. Also found the original ruins of qarn and adopted the idea of balancing knowledge and power because they know what happens when magic is abused (Ozma happens. and noone wants living nukes)

The highlanders on the otherhand moved east, into the shroud. They forgot the magely ways due to lack of organized society (and intelligence, Highlander scores lowest on that stat) but kept their Deity, A destroyer. A mage. Their bodies could still have been used to the high aether levels in Mhach (One could assume a city of mages use lots of it.). What if they trained their bodies to absorb the aether from the land and go for a more martial society?

Then the Highlanders found Ultima Weapons lair. They had trained their bodies to absorb aether and now they had plenty. Their soldiers, lancers, Monks, became the toughest foes in the land granting them military supremacy just until the Autumn war, were the combined forces of Gridania and ishgard defeated them.

There is a connection im sure of it. And the final piece lies in Mhach part 3

The next tank class will be Viking as a surprise. They will playfully crush enemies by dual-wielding shields and pull out hammers for pull moves and finishers. Mjolnir is a necessity.

The user /u/drolra on the FFXIV subreddit just posted a jokey comment about Krile, Calofisteri and Sophia, the magical orbs they all hold, and how this is surely a hint at the introduction of Blitzball in the next expansion. But it actually got me thinking....

What if there is a connection between the ancient Crystal of Light that was in Matoya's keeping, and the shiny rocks held by these magical giant women? A wish-granting stone, and a stone that negates voidsent — is it beyond the realm of possibility that these could be Crystals of Light?

This line of thought is curtailed fairly quickly by the fact that the Cintamani seemed to dissipate along with Sophia herself when we vanquished her, but it could always just have been a summoning based on a legend of a Crystal. It also occurs to me that a Crystal of Light's supply of aether might negate the need to draw aether from the [surrounding environment/Allagan aether-supply mechanisms] and something like that would probably be somehow noticed by our team of Scions (or the Allagans), but on the other hand we don't really know if the Warring Triad even consume much aether while dormant. We also don't know whether a Crystal of Light's power is infinite, or how easy it is to access, or... much of anything, about them, really. When the Warriors of Darkness were going to use their Crystals of Light to escape, I somehow got the impression that they were going to spend them, or partially spend them. What are the Crystals of Light?

Of, course, this is all probably a very stupid idea. But I guess a thread about "crazy theories" is the best place it could possibly go!

EDIT: character limit

If I recall correctly, Crystals of Light are simply fragments (or in our case, slivers) of Hydaelyn's divine power. This is why ours are so much smaller and comparatively weaker than the old one Matoya has - Hydaelyn is much weaker now than when that one was made.

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FFXIV subreddit just posted a jokey comment about Krile, Calofisteri and Sophia...

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And from the same reddit thread, here are a couple of suggestions which aren't that crazy, and are actually quite plausible:

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You'll be deploying your recruits into battlefields with Garlean forces to retake MuscleHyur country. Far Easterners will show up as Jade Sea pirates who privateer Garlean fleets and supply the Doma resistance. There will be an elite ninja clan that defected to the Garleans you will encounter multiple times. Airship combat/boarding actions will be a thing. There will be a raid centered around boarding a Garlean capital ship. There will be an NPC with a Great Katana that gives us all jobprediction boners.

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The story setting will reply heavily on traversing between the important points on the eastern edge of Eorzea. We'll be building sea-bound vessels in the FC workshops, apts will get an added community workshop where you can build a solo boat like a long raft... This will be a long term goal you work towards and upgrade like how you had to gradually beef up your chocobo companion. Larger/more dedicated FC's will be able to build galleons and other bigger ships. We'll get more exposure to Thavnair and some snippets on Doma's geography...

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I dunno; I think there's a case to be made for plenty of connections between Azeyma and Sophia.

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There's not mention in-game about Sophia being related to the sun, only equilibrium (and cunning, Kidibus said?). Furthermore, as has been stated,

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As can be seen from existing Allagan artifacts (runestones (from 1.0) inscribed with the symbols of the Twelve), Twelve worship existed in the 3rd Astral Era (before eventually losing steam amongst the Allagans as their civilization became increasingly scientifically advanced). When the Allagans first visited Meracydia, they were surprised to find a symbol almost identical to that used for Azeyma, the Warden being prominently featured in various types of architecture. Further research, however, revealed that the Meracydians they encountered did not worship Azeyma, but instead a deity named Sephirot, the Fiend, and that the symbol was being used to mean something similar, but ultimately different.

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Azeyma worship among the Allagans/Eorzeans may have existed around the same time Meracydians worshipped Sophia/Sephirot/Zurfan, if not earlier. While Azeyma was also considered as sun deity like today, her present aspects as goddess of justice holding a balance might be inspired by the image of Sophia.

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'Twould seem the power of our crystals is all but spent. -Magus of Darkness

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So yes, even Crystals of Light do not have infinite power. They're just like any crystal, aether given form. Their difference is the amount of aether they posses compared to regular crystals.

My own theory is that the crystals of light can be drained of aether but over time can recharge themselves.

As for the origins of the Twelve and similar gods. Its probably the case that they are the original Warriors of Light/extremely powerful mages... or alternatively, us sent back to the distant past and causing yet another stable time loop.

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There's not mention in-game about Sophia being related to the sun, only equilibrium (and cunning, Kidibus said?).

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Nothing spoken, no - just the visual themes (red, gold, Azeyma, possible references to the sun disc). Taken to the extreme, though, would there need to be a single connection between Sophia and the sun for her to share themes with Azeyma?

A parallel: Thomas Edison invented an electric pen that punched holes into a stencil that could be used for making multiple copies of a single document. Modifying a few of the parts, Samuel O'Reilly invented a pen that introduced ink into the skin. There are no mentions of Thomas Edison's invention being related to tattoos, and no mentions of Samuel O'Reilly's invention being related to documents. Had the former invention survived, think of how different the two might be today.

I think we're saying similar things in different ways, as that includes the possibility of the complete loop: Allag had a sun goddess in Azeyma (which had already diffused around the world) which became conflated with imagery of Sophia later on, in the same fashion as the Sephirot temple and Qarn, which is also marked for Azeyma (maybe even using the same source materials).

To use one possible path as an illustration: The Balance could be based on depictions of Azeyma sourced from Belah'dia, who retained source materials on Meracydian nations from records surviving from the days of Allag, who had records of this and the Twelve in the same encyclopaedias (as Koji helpfully pointed out was the connection between the architecture used in both Sephirot's temple and Qarn, which the Belah'dians built upon and used to worship Azeyma).

I believe that the Faith in the 12 first started in the 2nd Umbral era and went full steam ahead in the 2nd Astral era when religion ruled most of the known world. This might also explain why some of the 12 are said to hate each other (Nophica and Halone are said to be rivals, ironically Ishgard and Gridania are on very good terms with e/o) since the city-state that worshipped either god(dess) warred or allied with each other.

That and the Umbral era that happened before the Allagan came to be was believed to be another punishment of the gods by via global warming because mankind grew too proud. So this might explain why the Sun (Azeyma) symbol is everywhere, yet have different meaning depending on the worshippers. In other words, Sun worship was popular in the 3rd Umbral/Astral era because the Sun scorched the land due to mankind's sin and it was still in their memories.

We atleast know what may have happened in each umbral/astral era thanks to the lore book preview

http://gamerescape.com/wp-content/up...c797987191.jpg

If it weren't made clear that it was the Elementals that caused the great flood then I am sure people would have attributed it to Nymaea or Thaliak

[SPOILERS] At the end of the 3.4 story Papalymo made the remark about how he shouldn't have given Yda that mask. I'm guessing That Yda is Ala Mhigan royalty and that Papalymo gave her a mask to disguise her and helped her sneak out. He might regret this decision due to the amount of danger she has experienced since. Especially since becoming a member of the Circle of Knowing.

I hate to rain on the parade, but Yda is not royalty. Probably.

Go have another chat with Gundobald - he says Yda's father was a prominent member of the insurgency against the King of Ruin, not the King himself, and seems to have died.

Papalymo seems to regret giving Yda her new mask because she's hiding behind anonymity instead of being true to herself. Either that or said anonymity is why she's even considering joining up with the Masks, given they are clearly bad news.

I wonder

Now that we know that the thirteenth reflection is the Void, and we're generally dealing with alternate realities, could we possibly see a "dark/void" reflection of NPC's our PC has known and loved?

/characterrrssss

So after reading the Encyclopædia a bit something dawned upon me.

I expected it to fully dismiss my Mhach = Mhigo theory.

Instead it.. kinda supports it. to a degree.


It specifically mentions the Bela'dians to be of the "lalafellin heirs of Mhach"
So the lalafells went south.
Highlanders come to Gyr Abania soon after mhachs destruction guided by a comet.

To go from Yafeam to Gyr Abania one has to pass through the black shroud
Ramuh is said to have come into existance when man came with axes and torches.
Ramuh looks a helluva lot like the statue of Rhalgr in Gyr abania. (also im curious, anything on why Ramuh got Ascian like wings?)


So if the lalafells went south and the Highlanders went east, following a comet, What if the statue of (supposedly) rhalgr in the void ark was a high mage of mhach, and that he later grew old by the time the highlanders reached the shroud, inspiring the sylphs to summon a "lord of levin" to punish those who opposed them.

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I wonder

Now that we know that the thirteenth reflection is the Void, and we're generally dealing with alternate realities, could we possibly see a "dark/void" reflection of NPC's our PC has known and loved?

/characterrrssss

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The inhabitants of the 13th were corrupted by darkness and became the voidsent that now populate the void so we likely won't be meeting anyone recognisable there. It would appear the shard worlds aren't exact reflections anyway; they clearly have their own unique peoples and histories as evidenced by the WoDs. They were probably reflections of the Source at the moment they were all created but have since diverged dramatically.

yea, I agree with you, fanfest cleared up a lot of things with the parallel worlds and the WOD ( devout and whitemage, etc etc)..
I have no other wacky theories.

One crazy-yet-plausible theory I've been knocking around is one that started with King Moggle Mog and was further confirmed with Shiva. It's been more or less established that the primal Moggle Mog was based on a real, historical figure (albeit one steeped in myth and legend). I'm thinking that others - perhaps ALL of the others - are also based on real people or creatures.

This, plus the fact that Allagans are able to preserve creatures alive for thousands of years, makes me wonder if we might actually MEET some of them. Garuda in particular, since the Ixali seem to be creations of the Allagans - perhaps whatever historical figure the Ixali came to associate with their mad god is still alive, preserved by the Garleans somewhere. The other Primals, as well, though the Allagan connection is much looser for them.

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I hate to rain on the parade, but Yda is not royalty. Probably.

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Yda doesn't have to be daughter of the king to be royalty. Historically, kings have had extended families, and those extended families have had a lot of political power and often were included in the line of succession to the throne. It's hardly out of the question to imagine that Yda's dad could have been the king's brother, for example, and ALSO a prominent member of the insurgency. The king was pretty much living full-time in crazytown by that point, after all, and even a close sibling might have to make the hard decision to put his brother down for the good of the realm. (And if not close? Hey, bumping the bastard off is a great way to get his own butt onto the throne while becoming a hero to the people, to boot!)

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Yda doesn't have to be daughter of the king to be royalty. Historically, kings have had extended families, and those extended families have had a lot of political power and often were included in the line of succession to the throne. It's hardly out of the question to imagine that Yda's dad could have been the king's brother, for example, and ALSO a prominent member of the insurgency. The king was pretty much living full-time in crazytown by that point, after all, and even a close sibling might have to make the hard decision to put his brother down for the good of the realm. (And if not close? Hey, bumping the bastard off is a great way to get his own butt onto the throne while becoming a hero to the people, to boot!)

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During his reign, the Mad King in his paranoia imprisoned and executed all members of royal bloodline. The only known survivor is Widargelt, who was smuggled to The Fist of Rhalgr.

Makes you wonder if the King disbanded the monks to try to kill Widargelt

While lore book is not absolute, the information we're given is that Widargelt is the last one with royal blood left.

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Yda doesn't have to be daughter of the king to be royalty.

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Oh sure, I'm well aware. However there's never been talk of the King of Ruin's extended family, only "the lost heir," and nobody seems to know who it is. If Yda was the lost heir, I'd bet Gundobald would be a bit more excited when he learns she survives still. He'd also seriously mention something that important when you go speak to him now.

Making Yda the lost princess of Ala Mhigo would kind of defeat the purpose of the game if you ask me. Yes it would be cool and yes it's plausible, but I thought the point of the game was to show what a common adventurer like us can do with enough motivation (and a divine blessing doesn't hurt, but we don't need it - see Nabriales). Yda being just another person, albeit a knowledgeable and martially competent one, is a bit more meaningful...?

While reading through the Encyclopedia Eorzea, a couple things came together with things we've seen in-game and this crazy theory popped in my head.

Unukalhai is a former Warrior of Light.

Specifically the Warrior of Light from the 13th world, the one that fell to the Ascian plotting too quickly and was thus transformed into the void, with the World of Darkness as its precipice.

He tells us of how his world was one where champions would slay their primal-like beings and use auracite to capture their essence, becoming empowered. This eventually led to the fall of his world and the dreadful transformation of those who wielded the auracite...he then drifted alone in darkness, before being rescued by Elidibus. We do know that it doesn't require the Warrior of Light on the Source to slay primals, though without the Echo (curiously, Unukalhai has an ability similar to the Echo) it can come at a great cost...so those champions on his world need not have been Warriors of Light themselves.

Enter Cuchulainn. As stated in the EE, there is one theory that holds that the voids creation came about due to champions, including Cuchulainn, wielding auracite to combat their plane's primals, but becoming transformed as it happened...and eventually as they warred over the dwindling source of aether, the "Flood of Darkness was unleashed."

Seems to cleanly place Unukalhai on the same world that would become the void, does it not? So where does the Warrior of Light aspect come in?

Igeyorhm.

It was she that was too successful, residing in the 13th world, where her "power proved too much for the inexperienced Bringer of Light, and their one-sided battles eventually resulted in a Flood of Darkness consuming the entire world and rendering it a nigh-empty void." The same void, it would seem, from which Cuchulainn hailed. The same Cuchulainn that, according to one theory, was transformed by the use of auracite, in a manner all too similar to what Unukalhai said he experienced. Also worth noting that the WoL of the world that fell and became the void due to Igeyorhm's being too successful is described as inexperienced...which is either an error, or Hydaelyn's chosen of that realm and the champions slaying primals and becoming more and more powerful are most likely distinctly separate.

Interesting as well (assuming that Unukalhai's world and Igeyorhm's 13th are the same world, and they sure do seem to be here), that what supposedly happened to the rest of the beings left was that they changed and became aether-starved monsters. Now there's two possibilities here - one is that Unukalhai was like-wise changed, and in a manner consistent with other voidsent, is merely occupying the body he inhabits in the Source and it is not his. The other is that he did not change and was ultimately protected - perhaps by a gift from Hydaelyn from a time when she was strong enough to at least offer that much across to the 13th.

So that's my crazy theory - Unukalhai and Igeyorhm clashed on the 13th, but being young and inexperienced he never stood a chance, while she actively encouraged other champions of a more power hungry nature to employ the use of auracite to deal with the primal threats, knowing of its fatal flaw and believing that it would lead to the desired result of a Rejoining...but she was overzealous and moved too early, and also overestimated Unukalhai and underestimated the impact of the auracite using champions (and the timing with an attempt at an Ardor on the Source may have been off as well), and the world fell to become the void, leaving Unukalhai protected from becoming voidsent, yet alone until found by Elidibus. Partially out of gratitude and knowing full well the impact that imbalance between the Dark and Light, especially if it happens at the "wrong" time, he chose to serve Elidibus.

I have a theory that Unukalhai (a probably WoL) will somehow bring/ force light back into the 13th shard world. It's just how?

One theory is that he'll get power boost from the Triad and he'll then use that power to bring light back. Afterall, Unukalhai is the brightest star in zordiark/serpens constellation ... so maybe he'll explode like Ultima which'll then infuse that world with some light.

Another is that since Minfilia is absorbing the excess light from the 1st Shard, maybe Elidibus can convince or trick her into sending that excess light into the 13th shard world with Unukalhai being the recipient to then force light?

OK, I've got one.

The disappearance of the Isle of Val was caused by it being displaced into the Void, possibly by means of a large-scale warping magic. By whom, for what reason? No idea. Could've been malevolent, or maybe it was an experiment that backfired. I'm interpreting "like in power to Ultima" as not necessarily meaning "destructive power." Urianger's report states the isle "ceased to be," and while the journal entry for the quest says it was destroyed, that may be only an assumption on our part.

The singing shards quest seem to be another sign that the main character has something "off" about them, that there is something abnormal about their powers, or both. I'm not sure what else to call it when your memories are so messed up they start enchanting items with detectable sorrow and the death of others.

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The singing shards quest seem to be another sign that the main character has something "off" about them, that there is something abnormal about their powers, or both. I'm not sure what else to call it when your memories are so messed up they start enchanting items with detectable sorrow and the death of others.

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Well they are moments of conflict. From the loser's side of things it would be a nightmarish and terrible experience. God knows there would be groups out there we have fought who would see us as a terrible villain.

Lets not mince words here. In most of those dungeons we are killing people.

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I hate to rain on the parade, but Yda is not royalty. Probably.

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I've got one better.

The girl with Papalymo is not Yda. That's why he said he shouldn't have given her the mask, because it made people recognize her as Yda. Gundobald also said she looked as young as the day she left. Watch all the cut scenes very carefully from that point forward. Clues are there. Who is she? Yda's sister, maybe.

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While reading through the Encyclopedia Eorzea, a couple things came together with things we've seen in-game and this crazy theory popped in my head.

Unukalhai is a former Warrior of Light.

Specifically the Warrior of Light from the 13th world, the one that fell to the Ascian plotting too quickly and was thus transformed into the void, with the World of Darkness as its precipice.

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Seems to cleanly place Unukalhai on the same world that would become the void, does it not?

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I like that idea, particularly as the constellation Unukalhai is in is sometimes considered the 13th zodiac sign.

My personal crazy theory is that The Twelve (referenced as deities) are the 12 other worlds. Just as Hydaelyn is the spirit of the source, each of the other worlds has a 'living soul' and those are The Twelve.

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My personal crazy theory is that The Twelve (referenced as deities) are the 12 other worlds. Just as Hydaelyn is the spirit of the source, each of the other worlds has a 'living soul' and those are The Twelve.

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I've tossed around a similar idea in the past, but never believed it enough to do anything with it, lol. I can almost kind of make it work if I assume the worlds are 12 + Light + Dark, whereby I guess The Thirteenth (Void) would be Darkness and the Source would be Light. This also helps fit it in with the Seven Heavens and the Seven Hells. However, I have a harder time making it work when you take into account that Eorzeans believe that the gods are actually only in SIX of them, and the hells were just created as a biproduct. Though the void does work as a source for the Black Warden, though we've repeatedly been told that the concepts of the void and the hells are meant to be different.

I have it on the list of possibilities that I've thought of but never fleshed out ><