unfinished game asking full price is unreasonable

asking full price for a unfinished game is ridiculous may i suggest something more reasonable like say 5 buck a month

how about you actually read? We're getting a discounted sub. wtf is wrong with you people ~.~

lol this is the shortest of this king of thread i have seen :D

i suggest u watch live letters from the producer no:2, you don't even need to watch the whole thing, just watch the last 5 mins where wada comes in

how about you not be such a jerk >.> well ya know i didnt even know about this till a few days ago. I have more important things to do then watch every post they put out.

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how about you not be such a jerk >.> well ya know i didnt even know about this till a few days ago. I have more important things to do then watch every post they put out.

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If you don't follow game development, please don't post in the forums!!!! you suck! you're a jerk.

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how about you not be such a jerk >.> well ya know i didnt even know about this till a few days ago. I have more important things to do then watch every post they put out.

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you don't need to check out every post, but i would try and stay up to date with lodestone anything important will be on there. so you would not need to waste your precious time making threads like this

Why dont be helpfull instead of being jerks. Its a simple question, just give a simple answer without the negativity.

unfinished game asking full price is unreasonable

a title like that is going to provoke a reaction. i might have been a jerk with my reply. but i did answer your question

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unfinished game asking full price is unreasonable

i title like that is going to provoke a reaction. i might have been a jerk with my reply. but i did answer your question

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YEA ALL THE TROLLS SEE COMPENSATION AND GO NERDRAGE RAWR YOU TAKING FOOD OUT MY MOUTH. ya totaly worth your time and perfect reason to be a d-bag

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how about you actually read? We're getting a discounted sub. wtf is wrong with you people ~.~

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i have been looking around for a while where does it say that?

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i have been looking around for a while where does it say that?

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Ok yes people WILL be jerks but the issue is, those of us, even myself with very little game play time, still keep up with what is occurring in the game. So, with that being said, here is the last Live Letter. Also, here is a link to Reinheart's Translation Thread the answer to your question is at the bottom. If you do not want to read the whole thing to get caught up on what IS going on, I copied and pasted for you below.





F: lets call him since he's there waiting. Wada youichi.

W: Thank you for supporting; as Yoshida mentioned to make it a quality game we have to ask for payment.
W: wanted to talk abotu payment, there are lots of things coming but in order to make this happen we ask for
W: we are looking into discount to get as much players possible.

Y: We want to get as much players so we want to look into discount
W: You guys are showing lots of info but whats this?
Y: It's time so that it for today
W: what thats it?

Thank you, bye

Edit: Btw, Reinheart takes time out of his day to translate not only these big Live events but also what the Japanese players are discussing so we can know what most players else where are thinking too. Take a little extra time to read and do a search before you make a thread that way, you don't get flamed. :)

That doesn't help much, they say Discount. But how much of a Discount? We talking 50%? 10%? This is why I hate SE they never are specific about anything. Everytime they get Interview they alway answer the obvious and they didn't answer as all.. We are thinking about it and may have plan for it in the future.

For the Discount it could have been only $2 dollar off. Bwahaha!

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That doesn't help much, they say Discount. But how much of a Discount? We talking 50%? 10%? This is why I hate SE they never are specific about anything. Everytime they get Interview they alway answer the obvious and they didn't answer as all.. We are thinking about it and may have plan for it in the future.

For the Discount it could have been only $2 dollar off. Bwahaha!

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the official letter says it a little different. not like it matters few people are ready to hand se their pay check for new missing content and useless items to earn bragging rights to playing a broken game. game is not worth a sub anyhow.

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That doesn't help much, they say Discount. But how much of a Discount? We talking 50%? 10%? This is why I hate SE they never are specific about anything. Everytime they get Interview they alway answer the obvious and they didn't answer as all.. We are thinking about it and may have plan for it in the future.

For the Discount it could have been only $2 dollar off. Bwahaha!

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No one knows yet the discount.

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the official letter says it a little different. not like it matters few people are ready to hand se their pay check for new missing content and useless items to earn bragging rights to playing a broken game. game is not worth a sub anyhow.

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That's your opinion. Some people, myself included, understand that in order to GET to 2.0 and all the stuff you are saying isn't worth paying for at THIS time, you have to give something. They already have lost close to if not more than 7 billion in expenses. If you can find any other company willing to listen to players and continue to lose more and more money yet offer a better game; post that info here please. ;)

Judging by the number of views these threads get (including this one), I can tell there are numerous people with this same complaint. Looks like Square Enix better be careful.

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That's your opinion. Some people, myself included, understand that in order to GET to 2.0 and all the stuff you are saying isn't worth paying for at THIS time, you have to give something. They already have lost close to if not more than 7 billion in expenses. If you can find any other company willing to listen to players and continue to lose more and more money yet offer a better game; post that info here please. ;)

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well they do it because final fantasy is their flagship its the game that put square soft/enix whichever on the map, their reputation aka future sales are on the line so you can bet they will try to bail it out

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That's your opinion. Some people, myself included, understand that in order to GET to 2.0 and all the stuff you are saying isn't worth paying for at THIS time, you have to give something. They already have lost close to if not more than 7 billion in expenses. If you can find any other company willing to listen to players and continue to lose more and more money yet offer a better game; post that info here please. ;)

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We're not paying for 2.0. We're paying for 1.x. Even if we all abandon the game and they get nary a sub, 2.0 will come out.

And the earnings losses SE has experienced isn't from XIV alone, 2010 wasn't a good year for the company. The difference between SE and every other company in the world is everyone else listens to their customers from the start, thus avoiding the need to back track and avoid multi-million dollar mistakes.

This attitude I keep seeing that we as consumers owe SE anything is absurd. They released a faulty product. They asked us to stick around. They decided to take two years and rebuild the game. Therefore, they chose to take the most costly route to fix an already costly mistake.

That said, I hope 1.20 is worth it. I'm glad we get to try it out before we pay. But that patch better impress the pants off a lot of people starting with being released in the time frame SE set for itself otherwise the servers will be ghost towns.

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asking full price for a unfinished game is ridiculous may i suggest something more reasonable like say 5 buck a month

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Cause we will never get a finished game if they cannot pay ppl to complete it. We got a free year, no need to be so unreasonable

I would be surprised if it wasn't 50% off; if you are math savvy (and I am sure the math wizards at SE HQ figured this out) they can make more money with half off subs having 90%-100% of the current player base paying for the game then they would if they didn't give a discount and have 60%-70% of the current player base paying.

There are not stupid, a little slow, but not stupid ;)
Luv u S-E~

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how about you actually read? We're getting a discounted sub. wtf is wrong with you people ~.~

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[Citation Needed]

All they ever said is that they could "consider" it, which is a far cry from flat out stating "you're getting a discount".

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[Citation Needed]

All they ever said is that they could "consider" it, which is a far cry from flat out stating "you're getting a discount".

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I believe Wada said in the live letter "There will be a discount"

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They already have lost close to if not more than 7 billion in expenses.

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state where they say they lost 7 billion stop defending SE. better yet do what you telling others and read. they don't need our money, they already said they will make 2.0 even if only 1 person plays till then so. remeber that before you lets bs flow out side of your neck because you don't know wtf you talking about.

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state where they say they lost 7 billion stop defending SE you retard better yet do what you telling others and read. they don't need our money, they already said they will make 2.0 even if only 1 person plays till then so. remeber that before you lets bs flow out side of your neck because you don't know wtf you talking about.

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I can't even understand what is being said here.

SE said regardless of whether or not anyone pays to play XIV they will continue working on XIV and release v2.0 at the scheduled time, even if only one person is paying for the game. So learn your facts, and read the producer letters if you wish to have an educated discussion on the topic at hand. /pinkie_up

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state where they say they lost 7 billion stop defending SE. better yet do what you telling others and read. they don't need our money, they already said they will make 2.0 even if only 1 person plays till then so. remeber that before you lets bs flow out side of your neck because you don't know wtf you talking about.

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LOL Sure dude! And I'm not defending I'm stating fact. I actually have already POSTED this info to another thread but, I'll do the WORK for you since apparently your to lazy to use something called GOOGLE because your running your mouth.

BRB...

*goes to Google to find THIS!*

And for your info about the previous thread I mentioned, here's that for you too. Wouldn't want you to get anymore butt hurt from your incoherent rants.

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LOL Sure dude! And I'm not defending I'm stating fact. I actually have already POSTED this info to another thread but, I'll do the WORK for you since apparently your to lazy to use something called GOOGLE because your running your mouth.

BRB...

*goes to Google to find THIS!*

And for your info about the previous thread I mentioned, here's that for you too. Wouldn't want you to get anymore butt hurt from your incoherent rants.

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nice try just because the company lost money does not meen its all on ffxiv. it lost money in all areas. your still an idiot.