I am mainly playing my crafter & gatherer, and seldom go to the dungeons. Are there anyone out there like me? Normally I turn on my Eorzean time app and gather nodes at certain timeslots. I use approx. 10-15 minutes an hour for gathering. Then I go run my house errands but leave PS4 on, until I hear the app alarm for another round of gathering. Tbh, I gather mostly for making some gils and enjoy the beautiful scenaries in Eorze. I craft from time to time, but Macro most of the time. I use ffxivcrafting.com often. It is okay to do the gathering and crafting in this way, but I am feeling quite lonely in the game sometimes. :( Share with me if you have similar experience...
What's your daily routine playing gathering and crafting?
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10-05-2016, 03:26 PMyosmentWhat's your daily routine playing gathering and crafting?
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10-05-2016, 03:50 PMUnaLihzeh
Wish we were on the same server. I don't have anything against dungeons and such and do enjoy them, but I spend most of my time crafting, fishing, and roleplaying, really. :)
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10-05-2016, 07:55 PMyosmentAs for the new patch 3.4, many of the i250 gears need mats that are only traded with Lores... this is a bummer for me cause I have no lores if I stay away from the dungeon. It is sad for me to see that Desynz has been down prioritized by SE so I cannot desynz those new mats either.Quote:
Originally Posted by UnaLihzeh
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10-06-2016, 03:47 AMChameleonMS
I play Crafter / Gatherer 75% of the time. I keep current with dungeons but raids and primals usual fall by the wayside. I complete them months after they were relevant.
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10-06-2016, 04:03 AMMansfield
I am exactly the same! I will only do dungeons if absolutely necessary or to complete MSQ.
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10-06-2016, 07:27 PMRoth_Trailfinder
My daily routine is DR running, then whatever I'm needing to do (such as working on leveling PLD and getting its i200 Relic).
On Saturday and Sunday though, that is when I get my Gathering on. For about 3 hours each day, gather Collectible Chysahl, Adamantite Ore, and then the three new ores and three of the four (eschewing Brown Mushrooms) Botany items. With a high amount of luck I can actually gather all 30 Collectible Chysahl for the following Thursday's crafting reset on Saturday, which would let me skip that node or collect normal Chysahl.
My Retainers take care of most of my materials gathering. -
10-08-2016, 05:43 AMShadygrove
Dungeons? People do dungeons? Really?
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10-09-2016, 05:33 AMToasterMan
I remember when I started gathering and crafting. I hadn't stepped into any dungeons for about 2 months. I didn't complete Shep and Midas and normal mode until about a week before 3.4
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10-11-2016, 02:19 AMFinaSel
I work little by little on completing my crafting logs.
I've made all of the non-housing items for all classes and all the carpenter housing items. Next is blacksmith housing items!
When my levequests reach 100, I spend 1 day doing all of them for crafting (for the achievement).
I try to do the Provisioning and Supply quests for Grand Company Seals. I use the seals to buy mats.
Do hunts to exchange for items to exchange for GC Seals to buy more mats. (An ventures to let me retainers get crystals)
I also try to gather my own crystals if I can. I find crystals in area where I haven't gotten the gathering achievements yet and gather them there.
I try to run Roulettes every day for Lore and gil. With the lore I buy mats.
I go to nodes when they pop to get mats.
Then I spend an hour or two "Crafting up a Storm" and then sell everything on the MB.
It's too much to do in 1 day, but I try my best to at least do Grand Company supply / provisioning and Roulettes every day. If there is time, I gather and and actually craft with everything I've saved up.
What I can't understand is how people can afford to buy tons of V materia and new armor when having no crafting jobs leveled up... -
10-11-2016, 05:18 AMChameleonMSRMT and selling clears.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinaSel
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10-11-2016, 06:22 AMOstwarYou can do daily Vanu Vanu quests as they now give Lore! I can get 90 Lore from 6 quests in about 20 minutes and they are not hard if you are in decent lvl 60 gearQuote:
Originally Posted by yosment
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10-18-2016, 02:29 AMNeelaeasiest answer right?... i play since more than 2 years and haven't any gatherer/crafter myself - but money flows anyway mostly of my 8 retainers and oh... you avoid primals huh? your bad... aside from my retainers i got the 2nd most amount out of them – and ironically guess which money it is? yeah right it's yours, the crafter ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChameleonMS
but yeah everybody without crafter jobs is messing with the darkside – come on guys there is more than just black & white ^^ -
10-18-2016, 04:44 AMChameleonMSYes it is the easy answer because it is frequently true. I personally know many DoW/DoM only players that do these things for large infusions to their revenue generation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neela
DoW Gil GuideQuote:
Originally Posted by Neela
That guide does not even cover Aquopolis, which is a fantastic source of potential revenue and materia, and several other sources of newer revenue.
A personal attack, [em]sigh[/em]. I do not do them because I am a casual player with RL commitments preventing me from ever being more hardcore. Try getting in to a learning party 3 weeks after content released. Why 3 weeks, well it takes me almost that long usually just to complete all the new content; normal difficulty for each patch. Those learning party collapse like there is no tomorrow, this leads to poor game play enjoyment. I cannot join a static due to the aforementioned RL commitments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neela
No not everyone but if you do not have crafter/gatherers and you are rich and you do not dabble in the darkside. Then you are in a pretty exclusive group of players.Quote:
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As a crafter, I can, when I commit to it, I can earn a couple million in a few hours. Only a very lucky/dedicated DoW could do the same. -
10-18-2016, 05:20 AMNeela
hmm i covered myself behind the RL-argument for a long time too... actually i work in an ad agency and have 60-80 hours of work per week so i got your point. but taking this as an excuse for avoiding content others make money with is a bit uhm...u know? i could say i avoid crafter/gatherer cause of the exact same reason you don't do trials: i have to prio things up cause of less time. i know there is an amount of people who buy things with r-money, like in every other mmo but generalize this on all players without crafter cls' is just stupid. o.O'
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10-18-2016, 02:08 PMFinaSel8 retainers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neela
I know that this is a luxury for some people, but others prefer not to spend real money in order to make money in the game. -
10-18-2016, 05:47 PMNeela
well there are some reasons for this... first of all like i said before i don't have time for crafting or time bounded gathering spots, second im fc leader so 2-3 retainer are just for fc stuff (furniture, airship/company project stuff) and rewards/gifts for my members. although i have a good paying job RMT isn't an option for me so... taking the optional retainer is my way to go for increasing my ingame-income ^^
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10-18-2016, 07:13 PMRoth_TrailfinderThis is why I consider the rental retainers "Pay to Win".Quote:
Originally Posted by FinaSel
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10-18-2016, 07:20 PMNeelaAnd here we go i just waited for someone like you ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder
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10-18-2016, 10:50 PMChameleonMSI see a bridge dweller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neela
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10-19-2016, 02:29 AMSilverbaneTo win what? A big pile of make-believe money? Heck, you can print out a billion-gil bank note on your printer, or draw one with a crayon. Doesn't seem like much of a win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder
The only "win" in FFXIV is enjoying yourself while playing it. -
10-19-2016, 09:40 PMMaero
You also get a free V Materia from weekly Void Ark and Wiping City.
Palace of the dead you can also turn in for V Materia
As for myself i mostly make the gil gathering and have retainers to help me with that :)
I start off my day usually doing Mog Tribe -
10-23-2016, 04:51 PMMhiroThat's a hefty generalization that puts a bad light on people who choose not to focus on crafting/gathering...Quote:
Originally Posted by ChameleonMS
If you're curious about how it's legitimately done here's a few examples:
- Selling clears: yes this is legitimate and the higher end players usually do this to fund their FC/LS as a group. It's cooperative funding. Not a one-person thing. Usually the money made is either put into FC purchases or split among the members of the run.
- Farming Lores: The HQ items bought by lore tomes add up to a good amount and for those who are saving money to make a big purchase it's enough to help fund a personal house.
- Wondrous Tails: One some servers the x3 line gear rewards are around 10-30M. You also gain T5 materia from doing these which people who don't need it will sell.
- Materia Farming: A little outdated, but force spiritbonding your gear for T4+ materia is another money maker.
- Beast Tribe Quests: final tier of 2.0 tribe quests all reward T4 materia most of which goes for 20k a pop. Might not seem like much to you, but it adds up. A week of doing all these quests (especially the Ixal quests) will get you upwards of a mil in side-change depending on your server. 3.0 Quests will reward tokens that can be traded for items that can be sold. Especially the Moogle quests (them fibers).
- 2.0 Raids: Coil drops items required to craft certain glamour pieces which ya'll make. The primary mats cost a good amount. I know people who farm these heavily for money.
- Palace of the Dead: Gelmorra Shard = T5 DoW/M Materia. Secret chest thing also rewards nice stuff to sell.
- 2.0 lv50 Dungeons: Materials that are chump change to you people add up to a good amount of revenue for us.
- Retainers: Fully leveled retainers being sent out daily to gather materials and items is basically one of the best methods for people who don't have proper time to dedicate to the game as it can run while you sleep or are at work. Having extra retainer slots through cash shop also doesn't make you a P2W'er. You still have to level the damn thing and gear it and people without DoL/H have no need for the extra space provided besides leveling the retainer itself. It's P2W if it's instant gratification through money that severely affects the flow of the game. Not if you have to work it just as hard as people do with non-rented retainers.
And there's plenty more. SE made sure to make money making easy as ever without having to be DoL/DoH. My friend with none of that leveled spent the passed week getting free T5 Materias and funding crafted 250 gear for his PLD through the methods above including a very lucky 3-line win on wondrous tails. Not saying that RMT mongers don't exist because they unfortunately do), but your statement makes it sound like not being a crafter/gatherer and having a ton of money is some sort of impossible RMT/Clear-selling sin. Which isn't true. Because making money in this game is so easy that most people have hundreds of millions of gil just to look at the numbers. -
10-23-2016, 09:38 PMChameleonMSI guess you missed my reply to a very similar statement last page. I do thank you for expanding on what I already said in that reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mhiro
How does one do these without a crafter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mhiro
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10-24-2016, 04:35 AMRoth_TrailfinderYou don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChameleonMS
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10-24-2016, 04:45 AMFJerome
If you're a gatherer who knows enough other gatherers to form a full party The Diadem can actually be a semi-decent source of tomestones since two of the objectives will always be gatherer-based and there'll always be a third one (finding chests or examining crystal) that won't require a battle class.
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10-25-2016, 02:47 AMMaero
I believe you have to be at least level 15 on your crafters to even get access to Ixali tribe, Mog Tribe is 50+