Has anyone else noticed this? I have been doing Soul of the Creator on primal data center and when healer LB3 goes off people rez with weakness still and those who had it already do not have it erased. Does this only work in certain content?
Healer LB3 still causes weakness?
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10-01-2016, 04:08 PMkoroko220Healer LB3 still causes weakness?
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10-01-2016, 05:50 PMEphryosI think it's probably a bug. In most LB3 situations I've been too busy casting protect and saving people still not paying attention to really check but on two separate runs in Alexander I did notice that weakness was still in effect after the LB3. I've also had some weird interactions with dks using living dead before LB3 is cast and then they die right when everyone else is raised despite being brought to full health by the LB.Quote:
Originally Posted by koroko220
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10-01-2016, 05:54 PMNormalizer
It's working as intended. LB3 won't give penalty but if you already have weakness, LB3 won't remove it.
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Players revived using the following limit break actions will be revived in a non-weakened state. Furthermore, players who are weakened at the time of revival will have their weakness counter reset.
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10-02-2016, 12:03 AMkoroko220So what does that mean? People who were already weakened are now weakened even longer? Either way the first part isn't working :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Normalizer
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10-02-2016, 12:15 AMAlistaireIt's worded badly yeah, but the only way it makes sense to say anything about it is if it was meant to "reset to 0" as in remove it. There's no way they'd make the LB put your weakness back to full duration, and if it was intended to not remove it, why mention it at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by koroko220
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10-02-2016, 01:59 AMGeekMatt
I really feel like this can't be "as intended". When you're dead, you lose all of your buffs and debuffs, and LB3 is intended to cleanse weakness in the living members while rezzing dead members WITHOUT weakness, but somehow if you had weakness when you died you have it reapplied and the timer resets?
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10-02-2016, 03:43 AMkoroko220
I agree, No way it's as intended.
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10-02-2016, 03:54 AMFyce
If you die without weakness on you the moment of your death, you will be revived without weakness being applied.
If you die with the first stage of weakness on you the moment of your death, you will be revived with the same weakness stage and its timer reset to its maximum.
If you die with the second stage of weakness on you the moment of your death, you will be revived with the same weakness stage and its timer reset to its maximum.
In short terms: the more you die, the more you're screwed. But a team with members dying without an already applied weakness will be revived to their full potential.
This is to allow smart uses of Healer LB3 (like in A4S), or to make a comeback after a small mistake, while denying absurd comebacks of people dying again and again. -
10-02-2016, 04:51 AMkoroko220
So it's just very poor wording then?
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10-02-2016, 01:55 PMPhileas
Yeah if the person has any stage of weakness at time of death, LB3 rez will not erase it. It will reset the timer on that stage of weakness.
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10-03-2016, 05:19 PMRongwayIt's not that poorly worded.Quote:
Originally Posted by koroko220
But here's a different way of looking at it. Instead of
Raise: Before -> After
No status -> Weakness
Weakness -> Brink of Death
Brink of Death -> Brink of Death
we get
LB3: Before -> After
No status -> No status
Weakness -> Weakness
Brink of Death -> Brink of Death
So basically, LB3 raises everyone without changing their status, but it does still count as a raise, so the timers restart. -
10-04-2016, 12:12 AMkoroko220
Oooohhh, I got ya! Thanks! That really clears it up!
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10-04-2016, 09:08 PMcynical_baby
The german Patchnotes are clearer on this:
So dead players will be revived without weakness and players that are alive and have weakness will have it also removed from them. Looks like a bug or a mistake/wrong translation in the patchnotes.Quote:
K. o. gegangene Spieler werden ohne den Status Schwäche wiederbelebt. Bei bereits unter dem Effekt von Schwäche stehenden Spielern wird dieser Status entfernt.