Egi Glamour is coming out for 3.5....

[Patch 3.4] 1 important PSA and Latest Egi Glamour Info (Read Inside)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...t_egi_glamour/

So what 6 months from here ? *sight*

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Originally Posted by Celef

So what 6 months from here ? *sight*

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No, only like 3.5, Jan 2017.

I'm looking forward to 3.5 then, we've been over this plenty of times before...

"We plan to add more summons in patches! 2.0 will only have Ifrit, Titan, and Garuda, so those are what you start with."

"We decided to wait for the expansion to add new summons! It'd be unfair to give Summoner new skills before everyone else."

"We're not adding new summons with the expansion! But we will c*ck tease the sh*t out of you with the opening quest!"

"We'll give you Egi glamours instead, perhaps in 3.3!"

"Actually make that 3.4!"

"Nope... Sorry, 3.5!"

"We're adding new summons to the cash shop in 5.4! $60 per sh*tty Egi!"

Please look forward to it...

I don't see why Yoshi couldn't have said this in the last Live Letter. It would have taken 30s and people would have grumbled and moved on. Instead now everyone that was looking forward to it is a mixture of disappointed and annoyed. At this rate they'll just push it back again until the expansion...

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Originally Posted by Rikku1987

No, only like 3.5, Jan 2017.

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I'm afraid it will become very difficult to find a summoner until then, most of us a getting really bored to wait :/

*RAGE* and also *RAGE*

Like seriously, they might as well of said nothing and just implimented it in 4.0 then, so what we'll get 1 new egi glamour in 3.5, I'd expect more if its taken this long, though i know coding can take a while.

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Originally Posted by Celef

I'm afraid it will become very difficult to find a summoner until then, most of us a getting really bored to wait :/

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Play AST instead it's looking like a popular option :P

dw there is some who have no problems with the aspect of eggi, i can pose for you for some screen shooting

I honestly don't even care when it comes... I care how it comes... I want to know how they intend to work the system so I can decide whether I even care about it or not... I want them to pop by with "This is how we plan to work it", not more false promises on when it'll be implemented... I'll gladly take a 4.0 release, if the system is well polished... I'm just sick of not knowing whats even planned... I want a system where I can use any pet for any pet type... Ifrit-Egi instead of Garuda-Egi for the mage pet, for example... That's the kind of freedom I want from this system, if they just intend to give us a rigid system that locks Garuda-Egi and later Ramuh-Egi to the mage pet... I don't give a sh*t about the system and they can keep delaying it for all I care...

These delays are just more of a bad recurring joke at this point...

It's an oversight, and it's a shame, but honestly, compare the volume of content released in 2.4 to now. They didn't purposely intend to leave out Egi's or say nothing about it. But when you have Apartments, Squadrons, PotD update, Sophia, Hildibrand, other story, GC rank up, QOL changes like materia, camera customization, ability to watch certain PVP matches, Dueling, aquariums, orchestration additions, Server Cluster rooms for Triple Triad, ability to DF Verminion anywhere, Wondrous Tails, etc, sadly ya, a design that is only focused for a single job will end up in the back burner. If the egi concept affected more jobs, I could see them putting it in sooner, but look at the above and the QoL changes and ask yourself, would it be fair to remove any of the above just to suffice the SMN playerbase that wants to customize their egi? It wouldn't be fair.


But see now that they have focused on one of the bigger issues, Housing for everyone, they can now hopefully spend those resources they spent getting apartments in check on other content and maybe if you are lucky they will decide to release more than one egi.

Though I will agree, at this point, an update on the actual process would be nice seeing as it got pushed back again since it would be interesting to see the direction they are taking with it. But I guess they are saving that for the next live letter, or heck maybe a tease at fanfest lol.

Sorry but glamour for egi sounds lazy. Instead of glamour i rather want them to re design the whole egi things. A garuda egi dresses up as ramuh egi looks lazy..

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Originally Posted by Johaandr

Sorry but glamour for egi sounds lazy. Instead of glamour i rather want them to re design the whole egi things. A garuda egi dresses up as ramuh egi looks lazy..

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The devs outright stated just prior to 3.0 that SMN will not get any more pets. The egi glamour system is supposed to be a compromise to make up for it. Yes, it's not as good as new proper summons but we've long-since accepted that new pets just isn't going to happen at this stage.

Where are the SCH glamours though. #JusticeForScholar

I am now wondering if they have just started to work on it as of now, or they have been on the side making slow progress. Because now I am more worried about how its going to look like than rather when we are actually getting it.

What I hope it will look like though, Garuda Egi as example, replaced by another Egi, Shiva, Ramuh etc but got the same skill effects as Garuda. That would make summoners more unique than seeing Garuda's everywhere. Or they allow us to summon different colored Carbuncles but again with same skills the Egi themselves, Red Carby Ifrit for example.

But more I think about that idea, the more I start to think if they should just delay the whole thing for the jobs overhaul they talked about for 4.0 and rework all the Egi looks all together. Honestly they cant say PS3 limits them if they decide to cut support for 4.0 and foreward, screen clutter of big Egi's make its harder for people to see etc. Just look at how FFXI PS2 handled the bigger Avatars just fine-ish.

Could care less about egi glamour. And I mained SMN for all of 2.0, carbuncle glamour isn't something to be excited for.

I just want to use carby :(

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Originally Posted by Alberel

The devs outright stated just prior to 3.0 that SMN will not get any more pets. The egi glamour system is supposed to be a compromise to make up for it. Yes, it's not as good as new proper summons but we've long-since accepted that new pets just isn't going to happen at this stage.

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I'd say it's the best option, actually... We already have a mage, tank and melee pet... Adding additional ones is going to be either broken or redundant, or both... Titan-Egi is already a waste of space, what the hell is Summon IV going to add that's worthwhile? It would take a complete rework of Summoner to work effectively, and that just isn't going to happen... Right now we could go up to Summon XVIII;

Carbuncle-Egi
Moggle Mog-Egi
Leviathan-Egi
Ramuh-Egi
Shiva-Egi
Odin-Egi
Phoenix-Egi
Bahamut-Egi
Ravana-Egi
Bismarck-Egi
Thordan-Egi
Sephirot-Egi
Sophia-Egi
Zurvan-Egi
Alexander-Egi

There is just no way Summoner can get that in a satisfying manner... Egi-Glamours isn't a compromise, it's the only way we're ever going to get those without an utter mess of a Job, they'll either be broken or redundant... They could perhaps adjust skills to cut some corners, we don't need Bahamut-Egi, for example, because we've got Dreadwyrm Trance... Likewise, Resurrect could be adjusted to effectively be Phoenix-Egi, just add some AoE damage to it and change the animation... Something like that could work, but only for some... Change Eye for an Eyes animation to effectively be us summoning Ravana-Egi on a target, for example... That leaves the remaining Egi as an unsatisfying mess though... I'm sick of Garuda-Egi, give me Carbuncle plus the main elemental six if nothing else, and let me pick which I use... If I pick Ifrit, I get him for tank and mage too... I think that's more true to the spirit of Summoner, and it potentially gives us something to go out and collect, which is also pretty true to the Jobs history.

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Originally Posted by Ollieland

Where are the SCH glamours though. #JusticeForScholar

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Ideally, I'd like them to change how Summon skills work, so it should effect Scholar IMO... Have Summon I/II/III work the same as Shield Bash/Swipe/Lob, in that you need something in the offhand equipped to use them... You get Arcanist, and you have a Carbuncle Ruby to summon Carbuncle (bonus points if we can dye it for different variations on the radioactive squirrel). When you unlock Summoner, you get items to equip that relate to the specific Primal, equip an Inferno thing and Summon I/II/III are summoning Ifrit-Egi, for example. Meanwhile, Scholar gets an item for Eos and Selene. Both Jobs can revert back to the Carbuncle Ruby, though. I'd love a healer type Carbuncle... Healing Ruby, please?

For me Yoshida is like Peter Molyneux, untill I see it ingame, I am going to assume that it wont be added to the game. Worst thing is that the first glamour will be Carbuncle only, this means that we will not see the other Primal EGI untill the expansion gets released or worse 4.1.

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Originally Posted by Alberel

The devs outright stated just prior to 3.0 that SMN will not get any more pets. The egi glamour system is supposed to be a compromise to make up for it. Yes, it's not as good as new proper summons but we've long-since accepted that new pets just isn't going to happen at this stage.

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Can you link that quote please? If that's true I'm done playing summoner. We aren't doing new summons because the trinity is already covered. Ok then why add new jobs at all if trinity is covered? First they strip the wheel from Black Mage now summoners are truncated into 3 tiny midgets and not a midget more added ever.

I do not mean to critical, I would like some clarification I guess because I could have it all wrong, but is all this rage over playing dress up for your summons? I mean I would like to have a house pet or something I guess but this is to play dress up with garuda/titan/ifrit? This is a thing? This seems like a certifiably niche idea and I can understand why they haven't prioritized it. I would think that all new summons would be amazing b/c we had a great deal of variety in XI. I have been around a while but I haven't followed this closely, like people are proper mad about something like this? Do the dresses do anything? I guess it is b/c I am lala and you can hardly see my glam let alone an EGI glam....not being mean just very confused. TY!
Edit: Or wait is it to make garuda acutally look like carby? Sorry

I wish they would just shelve it until 4.0 and just completely rework how the egi works and looks with the summoner instead of just an unending glamor tease.

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Originally Posted by Nalien

I'd say it's the best option, actually... We already have a mage, tank and melee pet... Adding additional ones is going to be either broken or redundant, or both... Titan-Egi is already a waste of space, what the hell is Summon IV going to add that's worthwhile? It would take a complete rework of Summoner to work effectively, and that just isn't going to happen... Right now we could go up to Summon XVIII;

There is just no way Summoner can get that in a satisfying manner... Egi-Glamours isn't a compromise, it's the only way we're ever going to get those in a remotely satisfying manner... They could perhaps adjust skills to cut some corners, we don't need Bahamut-Egi, for example, because we've got Dreadwyrm Trance... Likewise, Resurrect could be adjusted to effectively be Phoenix-Egi, just add some AoE damage to it and change the animation... Something like that could work, but only for some... Change Eye for an Eyes animation to effectively be us summoning Ravana-Egi on a target, for example... That leaves the remaining Egi as an unsatisfying mess though... I'm sick of Garuda-Egi, give me Carbuncle plus the main elemental six if nothing else, and let me pick which I use... If I pick Ifrit, I get him for tank and mage too... I think that's more true to the spirit of Summoner, and it potentially gives us something to go out and collect, which is also pretty true to the Jobs history.

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I wouldn't say a complete rework of the job would be needed to accommodate more pets, just a complete rework of the existing pets. The devs cornered themselves when they made Ifrit and Garuda so general purpose whilst giving Garuda a skill that was so fundamentally superior to anything the other two had. The solution would be to specialise the pets far more so they each have fewer uses but the Summoner always has a pet for the situation. I've seen other MMOs go through this exact problem with pet classes but I've also seen most find solutions rather than just giving up.

A simple fix to specialise the pets would be to focus them on either single target or AOE with either physical or magical damage. The fact that both Ifrit and Garuda each have an assortment of all of those is what muddies the waters and makes it difficult to know when to use which. As a result everyone just sticks with Garuda for the most part because the difference is negligible and Contagion is so useful. It's clear that very little thought actually went into the pets' abilities. They don't have clear roles at all (and melee vs range doesn't count as a role since range is always superior if there isn't something else distinguishing them).

Like I said though, I've resigned myself to that never happening so I'm ok just waiting for the glamours at this point.

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Originally Posted by Sandpark

Can you link that quote please? If that's true I'm done playing summoner. We aren't doing new summons because the trinity is already covered. Ok then why add new jobs at all if trinity is covered? First they strip the wheel from Black Mage now summoners are truncated into 3 tiny midgets and not a midget more added ever.

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I can not find the quote aswell, but I remember reading it last year where Yoshi-P said during a interview that the team (developers) finds that the 3 (caster, melee and tank) EGI roles are enough and adding new one will be hard to balance and they themselves have no idea on how to make it work in FFXIV. To still give players something (after we complained about it), Yoshida said that they would work on a EGI-Glamour system, this way they can keep the roles, but the EGI will look different. The plans was to add them in 3.3, starting with Carbuncle, but it was pushed to 3.4 and now once again pushed back to 3.5.

We will not be getting a new EGI with new playstyle.

I'm not surprised it got pushed back yet again. Lol

I try not to get high hopes with this company anymore -_-

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Originally Posted by panderin

Edit: Or wait is it to make garuda acutally look like carby? Sorry

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Egi glamour would be to (for example) make Garuda-Egi look like Shiva but maintain the same ability potency and effects. The glamour would turn all of her wind animations and such to ice to match Shiva. It effectively gives SMN access to Egi they would not normally be able to have as it seems we have been denied any more pets at least for a good long while. And really, looking back at how long we have had the first three and how many primals have been in game since the lack of pets is a bit unfortunate D: I too would prefer new pets but since they designed themselves into a corner over it I would rather glamour over nothing at all now :<

Yup this doesn't surprise me nor would it surprise me if they delay it again come 3.5, never get excited for stuff in this game.

Well i myself have missed carby for some time now, but wonder why such a deal has been made of it all. It's just glam, does not do anything really.
New summons would be better, no?
Just no floating popcorn or what not please

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Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02

Yup this doesn't surprise me nor would it surprise me if they delay it again come 3.5, never get excited for stuff in this game.

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Correction: Never get excited for any Smn related stuff in this game. Anyone wanna take a guess at how long it'll take before they finally say why they didn't give us Egi Glamours this patch as they promised? Guess they ditched pet glamours because clearly it was far more important to make a camera with various features to take selfies and group pics to upload to twitter/instagram/facebook.

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Originally Posted by Maero

Well i myself have missed carby for some time now, but wonder why such a deal has been made of it all. It's just glam, does not do anything really.
New summons would be better, no?
Just no floating popcorn or what not please

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New summons would be better except that SE has already made it clear they will never give us new summons cause they don't feel like having to balance them with the other pets. The glamour system was the next best thing, but apparently even that is not worth doing. Smn will be forever doomed to be a glorified Green Mage with Happy Meal toys as pets.

Some of these people....I am really at my limit. I play SMN quite often for melting through dungeons, I enjoy it quite a bit... & I DON'T CARE.

EVERY PATCH "where iz da egg glam glam?1?!" WHO CARES?? I'D RATHER THEY ADDED NEW CONTENT WITH THE MAN POWER THEY USE THAN FASHIONABLE SUMMONS FOR ONE FREAKING CLASS. IT IS A HORRIBLE WASTE OF MAN POWER WHICH IS ALREADY LIMITED ENOUGH.

"Sorry we could only add 2 new glamour outfits this patch, we had 6 planned but the request for Egi glamour forced us to hold off until 4.1"

"Sorry we meant to add reworked Diadem with an entire new area that is actually fun in 3.5 but due to Egj Glamour we had to push it to 4.2"

"Sorry we meant to implement 4.0 during May 2017 but due to demand of Egi Glamour it had to be delayed until November. We hope you incredibly small amount of 1 class(of 13) enjoy this feature as we had to put all our manpower in to to get it done."



It's not like they're purposely not doing it, they just overestimated how much time it would take for it to be done & they're focusing their manpower on things EVERYONE can enjoy. Not a single class.

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Originally Posted by RLofOBFL

Some of these people....I am really at my limit. I play SMN quite often for melting through dungeons, I enjoy it quite a bit... & I DON'T CARE.

EVERY PATCH "where iz da egg glam glam?1?!" WHO CARES?? I'D RATHER THEY ADDED NEW CONTENT WITH THE MAN POWER THEY USE THAN FASHIONABLE SUMMONS FOR ONE FREAKING CLASS. IT IS A HORRIBLE WASTE OF MAN POWER WHICH IS ALREADY LIMITED ENOUGH.

"Sorry we could only add 2 new glamour outfits this patch, we had 6 planned but the request for Egi glamour forced us to hold off until 4.1"

"Sorry we meant to add reworked Diadem with an entire new area that is actually fun in 3.5 but due to Egj Glamour we had to push it to 4.2"

"Sorry we meant to implement 4.0 during May 2017 but due to demand of Egi Glamour it had to be delayed until November. We hope you incredibly small amount of 1 class(of 13) enjoy this feature as we had to put all our manpower in to to get it done."



It's not like they're purposely not doing it, they just overestimated how much time it would take for it to be done & they're focusing their manpower on things EVERYONE can enjoy. Not a single class.

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If the devs stopped saying it would be in the next patch and gave a proper estimate for when it would be coming then people would stop being disappointed every single patch. People are getting fed up with being teased incessantly about egi-glamours, and that is manifesting as increasing levels of frustration every time it gets delayed yet again.

If it really bothers you so much that players are getting annoyed then you can just take a fraction of a second of your life to not read the thread about it and read the next one instead.

They should not bother with it. Theres MORE important stuff than this Egi nonsense.

Maybe they should just stop mentioning stuff that wont be ready instead of telling people this is coming and then it gets delayed or not mentioned and they hope everyone will forget about it.

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Originally Posted by Mature

They should not bother with it. Theres MORE important stuff than this Egi nonsense.

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Like Lords of Verminion? Glad we go that in the Duty Finder before something like a Raid Roulette...

Heck, what would Egi Glamours even come at the cost of? Pretty different skill sets go into making quests and models/animations than go into balancing new events like Palace of the Dead... Do they even need to make the models for Egi Glamours? Carbuncle already exists, as does Ramuh-Egi and various other ones... Animations are the only thing left to really work on, as well as the method of implementing it/quests introducing it... Meanwhile we've got this huge section in 3.4 on screenshot camera controls that I know for a fact I'll never use...

I'm not going to complain about that though, because I know some will get use out of it... Egi Glamours aren't really that different though, and honestly... We've only been promised Carbuncle up to this point, and the only thing he needs are Summon III animations and Enkindle animations... He already has Summon and Summon II animation... It shouldn't be a lot of work, and yet here we are...

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Originally Posted by Mature

They should not bother with it. Theres MORE important stuff than this Egi nonsense.

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Why are you posting if you feel this way.* Why even be in this thread? You know how many useless things that people wanted and complained for in this game and have received? Quite a bit. Just because you don't feel this is worth your time does not diminish other's value or desire of this system.

I feel like at this point with all the waiting we've done, all Summoners are entitled to a full size Bahamut Prime glamour. FULL SIZE.

I don't care what the developers have to do - make it work. Drop PS3 support if needed.

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Originally Posted by Mature

They should not bother with it. Theres MORE important stuff than this Egi nonsense.

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No. #EgiLivesMatter

Yeah, I got a little excited during the beginning of the 50+ SMN questline. That Ramuh-Egi was really something. Okay, so, Ifrit-Egi is a DD melee pet, with AoEs, DoTs, and a stun. Garuda-Egi is a DD caster pet, with AoEs and utilities (extending its masters DoT durations, knockbacks). Titan-Egi is a tank pet, with lots of health, lots of taunts + an AoE taunt, and self-buffs which decrease incoming damage.

Ramuh-Egi could've been a DD caster pet, with functionality similar to the ACN. Its main skillset could've been DoTs, which could deal more or less damage depending on how close or far away afflicted enemies were to each other. Ramuh-Egi could electrify a party member's weapon, giving their attacks or magic enhanced lightning damage (plus a cool visual effect). His Enkindle ability could've been a huge AoE lightning tempest. Just my two gil.

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Originally Posted by Mature

They should not bother with it. Theres MORE important stuff than this Egi nonsense.

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I'm pretty much in the same boat here. of course it is nice to have such a system, cause as we see there seems to be quite the demand for it. but tbh it won't change anything. it won't boost the smn job, it probably won't mean more ppl play the job or have any other major impact on a smn's life...
personally i don't even notice garuda in most fights, she could be a flying pig as long as she does what she is supposed to do.

i just don't really get the massive outcry, but i guess ppl have their reasons. and ya verminion and idle cams or group posing fall under the same category of stuff noone really needs but we gonna get them anyway

Looking back at an older thread I am reminded to what could had been..
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...AT-ALLOCATION)

A more decent sized detailed Egi is possible.

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Originally Posted by Mature

They should not bother with it. Theres MORE important stuff than this Egi nonsense.

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Agreed. I'd rather they do other more interesting things...

Like the male bunny suit glam! <3 I don't have a male alt but I still wanna ogle da bois.