INCREDIBLY underwhelmed with the new tank armor contest winner

I AM SO SICK OF TANKSKIRTS!

high allagan set was cool when it came out. Then in HW they took the tankskirt/armortrenchcoat concept and RAN with it, with basically every new set of armor. I am so, so SO sick of all tanks looking like slight, skirty variations of each other. There were so many fantastic, creative entries in the tank gear competition, I was hoping any of them aside from the tankskirts would win.

What do we get? another freaking tankskirt. :mad: Either I am not this games target audience anymore, or the content creators are out of touch with what the community wants. I guess I'm making this to see whether I get mainly negative feedback- in which case this game probably isn't for me anymore, or positive feedback, in which case maybe whoever is the artistic lead, at least for tanks, should take a step back and realize how their personal preferences are leading to bland homogenization even among the glamour crowd (aka "true endgame")

Tank skirts are w/e, I'm fine with them, but the contest winner was super underwhelming. Just looks like a set of armor we would've gotten anyway. Wish something more unique would've won - like that Monster Hunter looking one (obviously not that unique, but unique enough to the game).

Every time something super speshul and unique wins, it ends up looking awful ingame, just look at the hairstyle contest

We don't really have a say in what they choose either way, at least Beberu Beru's entry was a "we will consider using this in the future" which is arguably the most appropriate design.

There is a difference between the coat and the skirt. These are two things. Personally I like tank coats, but I am willing to settle for skirts if it needs to be - it makes you look more heroic in my opinion.

You can feel like we have too many of these, but most of them look like plastic crap. There isn't enough "heavy armor" feel with the "skirts".

The contest winner seems like it could actually deliver a good tank set, but we will see how the devs do it.

It's too samey. Which is why the Berserker gear and the Vath/Gnath glamours are 10x better.

Content creators just probably chose the armor set that would be easiest to implement. Which I think is lazy but whatever.

well, I like it.

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Originally Posted by Critical-Limit

well, I like it.

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Same. I only saw praise about this gear when the top 40ish were shown. Now its won, I've only seen negative comments. Imo it combines the beauty of High Allagan and the first coil's Allagan gear together to make this great looking set. Don't get me wrong, I loved a lot of other designs too but this one was a clear winner when I first saw it.

PS: Tank skirts are good, we have no butt on this game so covering it is the best solution >_>

Hate it. I agree with OP. Enough already with the same garb rendered just a bit different to make it qualify as a "new" piece.

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Originally Posted by Katana190

Same. I only saw praise about this gear when the top 40ish were shown. Now its won, I've only seen negative comments.

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You tend to see this on just about change for an MMO. One cycle you hear praise, the next you hear criticism... The main thing is it's different people. XIV has around 600k active subs, so when something is thrown into the spotlight (more than before), critics from among that very large population will, well, criticize.

Butt capes are just kind of meh to me. In even some other MMOs, it's become very common for mage/healer classes. I guess it's a way to avoid completely hiding leg gear (though most tank boots do that anyways), and perhaps to avoid those awkward physics/clipping issues that come with closed-front skirts...

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

You tend to see this on just about change for an MMO. One cycle you hear praise, the next you hear criticism... The main thing is it's different people. XIV has around 600k active subs, so when something is thrown into the spotlight (more than before), critics from among that very large population will, well, criticize.

Butt capes are just kind of meh to me. In even some other MMOs, it's become very common for mage/healer classes. I guess it's a way to avoid completely hiding leg gear (though most tank boots do that anyways), and perhaps to avoid those awkward physics/clipping issues that come with closed-front skirts...

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True, it is common. I just don't know. I guess its very opinionated like a lot of things! I agree good armor designs can be done without butt capes, like a lot of 2.x's gear I suppose. Tank AF and Allagan all looked really good and they didn't have butt capes :D

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Originally Posted by Katana190

True, it is common. I just don't know. I guess its very opinionated like a lot of things! I agree good armor designs can be done without butt capes, like a lot of 2.x's gear I suppose. Tank AF and Allagan all looked really good and they didn't have butt capes :D

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True enough. With HW, though, I think that's at least in part due to the thematic elements/in game cultures. The rustic religious state, the 'Eastern' domans, the Sharlayans, etc. 4.0 will probably have its own thing going. If enough people don't like them, probably at least a few options lacking the widespread butt cape.

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Originally Posted by Katana190

Same. I only saw praise about this gear when the top 40ish were shown. Now its won, I've only seen negative comments. Imo it combines the beauty of High Allagan and the first coil's Allagan gear together to make this great looking set. Don't get me wrong, I loved a lot of other designs too but this one was a clear winner when I first saw it.

PS: Tank skirts are good, we have no butt on this game so covering it is the best solution >_>

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If something else won, someone else would be making a thread about how the (winner now) should've won and blah blah it had helmet tired of crowns.

Im just happy it has a real helmet and not another circlet.

I think that it looks really really good and detailed, I just hope that the in-game result will be respectful to the artwork. I like the fact that it looks like something that we could have gotten as a drop in FCoB instead of the Dreadwyrm set. It doesn't look unoriginal to me, it's just Allagan-themed, so it shares similarities with other Allagan sets, just like some other entries share similarities with the Warrior AF and AF2, but nobody's mentionning that when they complain about the winner. And I really love every single Allagan-themed things in FFXIV. They have really great designs.

Most people wanted this Allagan Luminous set to win anyway. It was the most popular before it won.

A friend of mine made and entry and actually made it into the finalists. I was rooting for her entry (Void Forged Plate), but in reality, it was actually pretty cool, but i knew who was gonna win right away. And to be honest, I'm not really sad. I love the High Allagan sets for tank and healer the most out of any other set they've made, I'd say Y'shtola's coat is a close second for healing-ish gear, with my current tank glamour using the Wild Rose Body. But anyways what I'm saying is, I love it, I can't wait for it to be released, and I will rock the crap out of it.

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Originally Posted by Nyghtmarerobu

A friend of mine made and entry and actually made it into the finalists. I was rooting for her entry (Void Forged Plate)

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This one ? I loved it too, it was my favourite right after the Allagan Luminous set. It reminds me a lot of this Tera high-elf female armor (but less skimpy of course tho) for some reason (mostly the shoulders and the overall "gothic and elegant" design), and I loved this armor.

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Originally Posted by Freyyy

This one ? I loved it too, it was my favourite right after the Allagan Luminous set. It reminds me a lot of this Tera high-elf female armor (but less skimpy of course tho) for some reason (mostly the shoulders and the overall "gothic and elegant" design), and I loved this armor.

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Yup thats the one. She worked super hard and asked around for stuff people would like. I gave he the idea of a breastplate-ish armor with a skirt and she rolled with it, and I thought the design came out fantastic, just sadly she didn't win, but it was still a good entry, and I hope to see it in game one day maybe.

-Drools over the armor design that won- Yes... please...

More butt capes. Just what we need.

I wish these 2 won.

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/462...c759f5b4_8.png
http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/462...c759f5b4_1.png

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Originally Posted by Freyyy

This one ? I loved it too, it was my favourite right after the Allagan Luminous set. It reminds me a lot of this Tera high-elf female armor (but less skimpy of course tho) for some reason (mostly the shoulders and the overall "gothic and elegant" design), and I loved this armor.

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This armor is much much better than the winner.

I too am tired of gear that clips, looks like skirts, or half naked people running around.

I like to tank, and i like to wear gear that looks sleek, as well as protective.

Something like the Paladin artifact armor, or my absolute favorite (and my glamour) the Paladin, and Dark Knight PvP gear: Lionsmain, and whatever the DRK one is called. I use those as my glamour. They look amazing!

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20140509032921

(also i'm still waiting on being able to set glamour based on gear set. Another thing Final Fantasy XI does, but XIV does not..... old game, making new game look/seem outdated!)

I rather like the tankskirt fashion it feels more fantasyish
one of the reasons i dont play many of the western mmo's are because their armour fashion is a revolving door of horns/bones, capes, and generic fashion armour

I did have an issue with the Void Forged Plate's leggings for females looking like fishnets, but other than that, I'd have preferred it if that had been the winner.

I'll be content with it being a runner up, where it's "potentially" going to be implemented, as opposed to the winner's "definitely".

I'm going to say if anything I was far MORE inspired by this tank design than ANYthing that square has come up with recently. Rest assured this armor will be my glamour for a long time when it comes out. So yeah I'm going to heavily disagree with the op here.

While I don't hate tank skirts or coats, I would say that I'd like to see more surcoats and tabard designs like the Elite Twin Adder coat or the DRG Valerian armor.