Materia melder's missing sibling

I think they should find out where the desynthesizing NPC has gone off to and have him/her stand next to their big bro.
I know that a lot of people have gotten their characters to the level(s) required to be able to do this on their own but, when you only have a limited amount of play time weekly a choice has to be made whether you want to "battle" or fish and gather or whatever else so for those of us that cannot desynthesize on our own, a few gil option would be welcome.

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Originally Posted by Renius

I think they should find out where the desynthesizing NPC has gone off to and have him/her stand next to their big bro.
I know that a lot of people have gotten their characters to the level(s) required to be able to do this on their own but, when you only have a limited amount of play time weekly a choice has to be made whether you want to "battle" or fish and gather or whatever else so for those of us that cannot desynthesize on our own, a few gil option would be welcome.

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Materia melding is unlocked simply by having your crafting class at the appropriate level, therefore it wasn't a big deal that this was made available via an NPC. It was primarily introduced due to the new requirement for melding on all new tome gear as well.

Desynth, on the other hand, takes a massive amount of time and gil (many millions) to level up. If this were made available via an NPC there would be literally no point in desynth as a skill and you would have complete uproar from the crafting community who just lost a collective billions of gil investment. There's no way SE would risk that.

There's already an NPC you pay to get desynth stuff from anyway: the market board.

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Originally Posted by Renius

I think they should find out where the desynthesizing NPC has gone off to and have him/her stand next to their big bro.
I know that a lot of people have gotten their characters to the level(s) required to be able to do this on their own but, when you only have a limited amount of play time weekly a choice has to be made whether you want to "battle" or fish and gather or whatever else so for those of us that cannot desynthesize on our own, a few gil option would be welcome.

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A few gil per desynth, no.

A few million gil per desynth, maybe.

How would that work though? You're leveling your desynthising skills up, while the odds for materia are fixed. And what would even the point of it? To cheat crafters even more? There are already options for gear you dont need: Market board or your GC to turn them in.
They put the materia melder in for convenicen; desnyth is tied to your character - you cant request it of another player (while you really should though), why have an NPC for it?

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Originally Posted by Vidu

They put the materia melder in for convenicen; desnyth is tied to your character - you cant request it of another player (while you really should though), why have an NPC for it?

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I would be happy with just this.

Happy with what ?
Btw desynth is like specilization. You can only have 3 of them at max lvl. If a npc exist to do that ... there will be no point to lvl up them.
It cost millions to do it or a lot of time. You can still ask people to desynth.
Some people do gils that way and don't craft. If everyone can easily desynth it would be worthless.
(I'm not really happy with the meld npc even if I can "understand", hopefully it's not possible to overmeld ... but yet)

[QUOTE=Jeycht;3839284]Happy with what ?

Happy with being able to ask other people to do it for you. Some people have RL limitations that do not allow them the time needed to invest in lvling desynthesis, or other things. Asking for a viable means to use some of the games aspects is not such a horrible thing. I wish I had the time to do it all but...I have to choose where to spend my limited time, and leveling an aspect that "costs millions and takes a long time" does not make the cut.

Well you can always ask people to desynth for you by trading your items (if they are tradable)
If you don't have enough time to lvl up desynth, you can still do it slowly by buying some cheap things and desynth 5-10min then keep doing what you were doing before. At some point you will be able to desynth yourself. That's what I do and even if I'm not maxed I can desynth some good stuff already.
The easier way for first 100 lvl is buying items for the old relic, cost 3k each. (I know there is a npc that sell them in thanalan, silver bazaar)

I dont actually get why you car "so much" about this though - if you cant sell it on the market board or turn it into materia, you can turn the stuff in for GC-seals. The rare materials you might get from it, can be bought... and, well, sold by those who did put the effort into it and choose to spend their limited time with desynth...

The only reason I would like to request desynth is because you cant level all of them - but I see why they would make you choose

I wish people who only play battle content would stop acting like crafting is just some kind of hassle that no one really wants to do. Some of us actually enjoy it and are proud of our accomplishments. If you want to be able to have access to the things that are available through progressing your crafters, then idk maybe work on progressing your crafters ?

How would you feel if people started asking for an npc that you can pay some gil to cap tomestones for the week. Or how about an npc that You can pay some gil and have a random loot from a dungeon or raid come out.

What you're asking is essentially the same thing.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

They put the materia melder in for convenicen; desnyth is tied to your character - you cant request it of another player (while you really should though), why have an NPC for it?

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Think of it as reverse synthesis. Also you desynth for synth materials. The whole reason for desynthesis is to get more materials to synth with and to help with leveling of your synths. If you want to desynth, get your synth up high enough to unlock it and level it up. Its fast and easy.

If you do not need or want to reclaim the materials there is no real reason to desynth and item to begin with. That's also why they have the avenue of turning an item into materia or into GC seals. Unlike battle classes which rely on material melding, hence the addition of the melder, there is no reason for someone who does not craft to need desynthesis.

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Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi

Or how about an npc that You can pay some gil and have a random loot from a dungeon or raid come out.

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Retainers on quick ventures say hi. :p

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

Think of it as reverse synthesis. Also you desynth for synth materials. The whole reason for desynthesis is to get more materials to synth with and to help with leveling of your synths. If you want to desynth, get your synth up high enough to unlock it and level it up. Its fast and easy.

If you do not need or want to reclaim the materials there is no real reason to desynth and item to begin with. That's also why they have the avenue of turning an item into materia or into GC seals. Unlike battle classes which rely on material melding, hence the addition of the melder, there is no reason for someone who does not craft to need desynthesis.

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Äh... yeah, I know that, but thanks for the explantion anyways xD

That are actually some pretty good points why there doesnt need to be such an NPC - somre of the "rare" materials you can get from it (...mostly from fish though if we're honest) are a crafters reward for putting the time and effort into it. You're totally right here: if you're not a crafter you dont need desynth - if OP thought of this as a quick and easy way to make gil... well, nope, it isnt

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Originally Posted by Emstidor

Retainers on quick ventures say hi. :p

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With MASSIVE amounts of RNG.

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Originally Posted by Emstidor

Retainers on quick ventures say hi. :p

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Frankly, I dont think they should be able to bring such stuff back - I got that old ex-primal bow (elven bow, probably?) a few days ago and was a bit like "mmmh...". I know, I know, its not hard to obtain those anymore... still I'd prefer to see any gear that doesnt come from the normal dungeons (or is crafted) locked out from the quick ventures.

Sorry to get a bit off topic, but when I try to use the materia NPC to meld crit or det Vs to some of my augmented lore hear it says it's ilvl is too low and that it won't add any of the materia's bonus. These are pieces that have no crit or det or have them on the uncapped bottom row of stats. Is the NPC bugged or do I need to go recheck ariyala?

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Originally Posted by Bigsby

Sorry to get a bit off topic, but when I try to use the materia NPC to meld crit or det Vs to some of my augmented lore hear it says it's ilvl is too low and that it won't add any of the materia's bonus. These are pieces that have no crit or det or have them on the uncapped bottom row of stats. Is the NPC bugged or do I need to go recheck ariyala?

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the gear has to be ilvl 160 or higher to meld grade 5 materia into it. and only one of the stats on the bottom row is not capped. every piece of gear has 2 capped main stats, one capped secondary stat and one uncapped secondary stat.

Oh, didn't know about the capped secondary stat. Thanks for cleaning that up for me.