Findable recipes-good idea?

I played WoW shortly recently and it reminded me of something-recipes you can find out in the world.

It would add some variation to crafters, not having everyone know the same things, and would add a way people who don't craft can make gil (by selling recipes to crafters collecting them). I think it would be cool.

They could even have recipes drop in raids, perhaps. Maybe not the savage ones, but like, as an example, the recipe for 220 gear could drop in midas.

Of course, we should still have the majority of crafts just in the log like now, but having extra recipes for good stuff that you can find would add some incentive to do other content I think. Just a thought I had.

well there are crafting books for when you get to higher end crafting, and the hell crafters have to go through to get them, the idea seems fine and fun from a way to make gil as a non crafter, but wait till you see the prices of that one item on the MB later lol.

I'd be ok with this for purely glamour recipes only.

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Originally Posted by ADVSS

well there are crafting books for when you get to higher end crafting, and the hell crafters have to go through to get them, the idea seems fine and fun from a way to make gil as a non crafter, but wait till you see the prices of that one item on the MB later lol.

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Yeah, that's a little different though as it gives you every recipe in that category (and the blue scrip books are really easy to get so everyone has them anyway).

I just mean like a scroll you could find from a boss or something that would only have one recipe on it. Have several of those scattered throughout content, I think it'd be awesome.

This idea is not really any different than what already exists for crafting mats that only drop from those same bosses now.
Just look at the prices of the orchestration rolls faded and complete from content that is rarely run. Now, you want to add another layer of rarity on top of that.

Oh well, just another thing to increase the class division between hardcore and casual players.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Just a thought I had.

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I really like this idea.
And it would be nice to have some recipes we could sell on MB and some we can't. We'd have to go in ourselves to get them.

I don't like the current method for getting recipe books. It's boring and monotonous.
Having findable recipes would add more excitement to crafting!

I agree with the glamours only-and youre right master books do give a plethora of items that become available, this is a one time one item only recipe. I like the idea of immersion for culinarians, cause yeah people who love to cook love new recipes or ways to make things. My previous statement though is that those rare recipes sure they sell for what you might think is alot, make a craftable item even rarer for crafter masters to be able to make? Dont get me wrong, I like it, if its harmlessl enough to be a glamour. if this became a thing for battle-legit gear, or rare high powered gathering gear, it could tank the market and allows for monopolies.

Many MMO's have used single use, drop recipes. For 14, I could picture maybe one use Aetherial recipes but I'd prefer to see them in a crafting context. Guild recipes or something.

You want to force crafters to do battle content to get recipes so they can craft? Sounds like a crappy idea.

How about recipes earned with skill (aka Master Books)? All these easy HW casual blue scrip master books are killing crafting. Recipes aren't earned, they are just a capped currency. Bring back the punishing ARR Master Book system imo.

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Originally Posted by PROBOUND

You want to force crafters to do battle content to get recipes so they can craft? Sounds like a crappy idea.

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Not if the battle content is Kitchen Stadium! "A la cuisine!"

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Originally Posted by PROBOUND

You want to force crafters to do battle content to get recipes so they can craft? Sounds like a crappy idea.

How about recipes earned with skill (aka Master Books)? All these easy HW casual blue scrip master books are killing crafting. Recipes aren't earned, they are just a capped currency. Bring back the punishing ARR Master Book system imo.

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Wouldn't be forced, as crafting endgame goes hand in hand with buying things on the marketboard, if you don't want to do other content then you can buy it.

Though would it really be that farfetched anyway? We already have crafting mats that drop in EX modes, and you can't exactly get very far in crafting without completing the battle class-only story.

Ugh, I played a MMO with this and disliked it. If I'm going to need RNG to be able to even think of crafting something, I want it to come through crafting things, which I can do solo (ie, Master Books). I don't want to fight over a rare drop in battle content...

It depends on where you find them, what items the recipes cover and how accessible are they.

You know that if they spread out the recipes and make it an insufferable grind to get (you know it will be, its guaranteed) then it would alienate even more people from crafting and that is not good for anybody.

I don't see how it would be much a grind.

Could be primal drops, random drops from overworld mobs, or even leve rewards or something. There's lots of places they could put them.

To be honest, I would rather run a dungeon with a 15% drop rate for a recipe than to monotonously gather a TON of items (or spend a ton of gil buying them), and then craft a whole bunch of the same thing with a macro while half asleep and half watching YouTube.

Do people really think it takes skill to get the Master Craft books? It just takes time and patience and or gil. That's it. There is no skill involved. Some luck but no skill.
Getting the master books was easy and boring as could be. At least, this is how I personally felt about it. I have a hard time understanding how getting master craft books through repetitive gathering and crafting can be exciting.

Give us that "Oh! What is this new recipe that just dropped!?" feeling. Or, even if we know it could drop, I would much rather have that "Is it going to drop this time?" feeling than "Okay. I need 3000 blue scrips. If I craft this and it gives me 100 blue scrips each time, that means I need to craft 30 of them. Now let's see...that means x adamantite, x hallowed water, x crystals, and x something other junk. Considering the pop rate of adamantite nodes and the amount gathered per node...it will take me approximately x hours to get enough." feeling.

Could it get boring? At least giving us dungeons to run and hoping for a drop keeps us on our toes and our adrenaline flowing.

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Originally Posted by FinaSel

15% drop rate from content...

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This is a horrible idea. It would be like "I love crafting in this game, lets see what new recipes I can get... so I can't craft anything good because I have to run X content until I get lucky? Who thought this was a good idea?" type of situation.

Perhaps they can make some special, not important, glamours drop from places but, again, the drop rate is what would make or break the idea.

id take this over the stupid 'specialist exclusive recipes' anyday. and i hate doing 70% of the dungeons in this game XD

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Originally Posted by Erudito

This is a horrible idea. It would be like "I love crafting in this game, lets see what new recipes I can get... so I can't craft anything good because I have to run X content until I get lucky? Who thought this was a good idea?" type of situation.

Perhaps they can make some special, not important, glamours drop from places but, again, the drop rate is what would make or break the idea.

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It does have negatives and positives, but it works in MMOs that are much more successful than this game. I agree with Fina more or less, everyone has master books, they are too easy to get and they aren't special, it doesn't feel cool to get them. Gives us some neat recipes to find or earn in other ways, imo. Even if it's just dungeon-level gear or glamour, it would still be nice.

I've played MMOs where crafting items only dropped in raids and all it does is make the raiders rich and the crafters paying out the nose for things they need. No thank you. I like that crafting is actually viable here, unlike many other MMOs I've played.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

I've played MMOs where crafting items only dropped in raids and all it does is make the raiders rich and the crafters paying out the nose for things they need. No thank you. I like that crafting is actually viable here, unlike many other MMOs I've played.

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Never heard of that-nor have I ever seen an MMO where crafting wasn't viable, so I feel your point is not even close to what I am suggesting, as I never said to put them in savage raids exclusively.

I would not be against this idea. Would be kind of interesting.