Allagan Tomestones of Scripture

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08-30-2016, 11:08 PM
Chimeric

Allagan Tomestones of Scripture

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...930999cc3efcd8

Man, can't wait to run Expert roulette and Palace to cap scrips for the week.
08-30-2016, 11:22 PM
Khalithar

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Originally Posted by Chimeric

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...930999cc3efcd8

Man, can't wait to run Expert roulette and Palace to cap scrips for the week.

I could have sworn I've seen that exact same thing before... oh wait.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...547acdc1fbda48
08-30-2016, 11:38 PM
ADVSS

Someday we'll discover the true allagan tomestones, until then.....
08-31-2016, 12:16 AM
Kaurie

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Originally Posted by ADVSS

Someday we'll discover the true allagan tomestones, until then.....

Allagan Tomestones of Truth?
08-31-2016, 12:17 AM
Deviant1

Ok so we wait for what feels like forever to get some real news on 3.4....

and they only tell us about the same tomestone swap that has happened 7 times already (Philosophy > Mythology > Soldiery > Poetics > Law > Esoteric > Lore > Scripture)

Just call it 'weekly capped stones', 'uncapped 50 stones', and 'uncapped 60 stones' and then you never have to worry about new names, not like they matter anyways.
08-31-2016, 12:25 AM
Alexander_Dragonfang

Patches have become so predictable...
08-31-2016, 12:49 AM
Felis

We have still august. Wait another week for real 3.4 Lodestone news.
Or read the live letter summary
08-31-2016, 12:51 AM
Istaru

You mean you aren't all excited to grind out another Tomestone? Me neither.
08-31-2016, 12:53 AM
Zigabar

Scripts (assumed short-hand) and Scrips. This is gonna be fun and confusing. Players already mess up Scrips with Scripts.
08-31-2016, 12:54 AM
Atoli

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Players will no longer be able to exchange Allagan tomestones of esoterics for items. Although Allagan tomestones of esoterics will not be removed, items obtained through their exchange will be made available through other means.

Please not hunts again x.X
I guess I better get all the eso-gear I like for glamours now before I become forced to do my most-dreaded content just because I want a pretty armor v-v°

Other than that, I like the name of the new tomestones :)
08-31-2016, 01:01 AM
Kaurie

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Originally Posted by Felis

We have still august. Wait another week for real 3.4 Lodestone news.
Or read the live letter summary

What news are you expecting?
08-31-2016, 01:10 AM
Istaru

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atoli

Please not hunts again x.X
I guess I better get all the eso-gear I like for glamours now before I become forced to do my most-dreaded content just because I want a pretty armor v-v°

Other than that, I like the name of the new tomestones :)

Of course 3.5 will add a new upgrade material to hunts as a way to take the i260 gear to i270. Don't be silly.

I do agree about the name though.
08-31-2016, 01:15 AM
Bourne_Endeavor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atoli

Please not hunts again x.X
I guess I better get all the eso-gear I like for glamours now before I become forced to do my most-dreaded content just because I want a pretty armor v-v°

Other than that, I like the name of the new tomestones :)

Oh, I missed that bit. Might just do the same. Can't you just make it crafting, SE? Nice and simple!

Anywho, while I don't mind tomes as a currency, I also kind of hope this is the last we see of it. 4.0 needs a fresh coat of paint.
08-31-2016, 01:20 AM
Mrfox0707

Ya know what they should do is.... Um.. With the CE of the new expansion should include a portable hard drive that looks like the newest Allagan Tomeston that we install the game off of.
08-31-2016, 01:36 AM
swiss_Momo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atoli

Please not hunts again x.X
I guess I better get all the eso-gear I like for glamours now before I become forced to do my most-dreaded content just because I want a pretty armor v-v°

Other than that, I like the name of the new tomestones :)

they've already turned the old law gear into that.
So I guess certain dungeons might now drop tokens that you'll be able to turn in for a certain piece, like the old ilvl 90 AF gear? Ugh.
08-31-2016, 01:41 AM
Atoli

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Originally Posted by swiss_Momo

they've already turned the old law gear into that.

I know, that's why I said it xD

I'd prefer it if we could just by them with lore, for a cheaper price :/
08-31-2016, 01:45 AM
Istaru

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Originally Posted by Atoli

I know, that's why I said it xD

I'd prefer it if we could just by them with lore, for a cheaper price :/

You get to do hunts! You get to do hunts! Everyone gets to do hunts!

I don't hate hunts, even now, but the amount of salt on them every odd numbered patch makes them unpalatable.
08-31-2016, 04:14 AM
myerg

I want specialist gear that augments class skills or set bonus like the gc armor. Something i can feel pleased about obtaining kinda like a relic armor :0
08-31-2016, 04:38 AM
Frederick22

And so it has began. The clock had already started to run.

Well yes, the new and final tomestone of heavensward. Nothing so importart, but still is something.

At least I'm glad taht the new tomestone gear will be good, and not the crappy clothes we had with lore. Man that scripture tank gear I saw on the live letter, so good.
08-31-2016, 04:46 AM
Savanni

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

Allagan Tomestones of Truth?

More like Allagan Tomestones Of LIES!!!
08-31-2016, 05:17 AM
Istaru

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Originally Posted by myerg

I want specialist gear that augments class skills or set bonus like the gc armor. Something i can feel pleased about obtaining kinda like a relic armor :0

Sadly, Yoshi-P said basically they are not going to bring back the unique stat items we had in 1.0.
08-31-2016, 05:31 AM
Morningstar1337

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Originally Posted by swiss_Momo

they've already turned the old law gear into that.
So I guess certain dungeons might now drop tokens that you'll be able to turn in for a certain piece, like the old ilvl 90 AF gear? Ugh.

The problem is that the ilevel curve far exceeds that of 2.0. in 2.0 the AF1.5 gear is almost enough to get you to the MSQ content (I say almost because you still need the accs and weapon to get the last 3 dungeons), and certainly the accs can be obtained at the three dungeosn where the gear cna take you. In Heavenward, the Dungeons have higher ilevel limits and the gear can only take you as far as the 3.3 dungeons, which unlike 2.4's already have gear. I think that the AF2 armor will be sold at Clan Centurio's shop in Ishgard or that a new NPC will be introduced to sell them for tokens thta you cannot get from any dungeons
08-31-2016, 07:42 AM
Ametrine

The only thing I'm curious about is if the old gear that's now with Clan Centurio will get recolors in 4.0 as new leveling gear as Poetics gear did. At least, I think it's Poetics... May have been Soldiery, but basically the Dawnstar, Evenstar, Astrum, Gloam, etc. gear. It was all given a muted recolor and put in as the "Aurum Regis" sets.

I'm hoping the Doman sets get the same treatment as hunts are painfully time consuming in 3.0 since no one really teams up for it anymore, so you're stuck with the solo-friendly hunts. :/

I really wanted the tank and healer sets.
08-31-2016, 10:56 AM
tymora

What else is new?
08-31-2016, 11:12 AM
Esp

*Faceplants table*

Tomestones....more tomestones @_@
08-31-2016, 01:06 PM
FoxyAreku

I wonder where the Esoteric gear will go.

I hope they put it on the level 60 class quests+calamity salvager...but I know they won't do that. V_V
08-31-2016, 01:18 PM
FinaSel

I wonder what the new tomestones for patch 3.45 will be called.
08-31-2016, 02:36 PM
Ash_

I want gear that's relevant to drop in dungeons again.. give me a reason to run them u_u'

And do we even need an ilvl increase? It feels... bloated, or it's rising too quickly. It used to be 2.0 hard mode dungeons were released with no ilvl increase.
08-31-2016, 03:11 PM
Morningstar1337
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Originally Posted by Ash_

I want gear that's relevant to drop in dungeons again.. give me a reason to run them u_u'

And do we even need an ilvl increase? It feels... bloated, or it's rising too quickly. It used to be 2.0 hard mode dungeons were released with no ilvl increase.

Actually ilvl increases coincide with the typical tome/raid cycling as new Raids are introduced, and even in 2.0 the ilevel of the gear you get from 2 dungeons increased by patch
- Initial Endgame Dungeons: i55
- 2.1: 60
- 2.2: 70
- 2.3: 80
- 2.4: 90
- 2.5: 100
Likewise the maximum ilevel would not change for two patches, the 2nd of which will try to help players get through the current hardcore raid fast, which is why the alliance raids dropped upgrade mats, why Thodian's Reign and Nidhogg's rage has weapons just shy off the maximum ilevel and also why the relic and dungeons get closer to the same cap in the 2nd patch of the cycle

The rising ilevels are more in part to a concept introduced within the middle of 2.X: Upgradable gear, previously exclusive to the relic but heavily simplified for tomestone gear. This concept alowed you to turn in a piece of certain gear along with a token to make it dyable and add 10 ilevels on it (before you ask, the upgraded gear is technically considered a new item so materia, and such are lost upon upgrading and you have to physically unequip it to upgrade it). With that removed, the Ironworks set would be on par with i100 dungeon sets (whether or not the Raid drops would be simialr depend on if the devs would treat tomestone gear an alternate endpoint or a mere steeping stone). That is not the only factor. The Gap had been widened by an increment of 10 because of the decision to have 2 difficulties for the raid, whch meant the Gordian gear (i90) drove a wedge between the two Tome sets, with the same thing happening again with Midas (and the decision to make crafted gear closer to the ilevel)

in 2.0 the pattern was Tome>Tome>Tome>Upgrade>Tome>Upgrade. In Heavenward the pattern is now Tome>Upgrade>Normal Alex>Tome>Upgrade>NM Alex/Craft>Tome>Upgrade, with each gear in these steps being in increments of 10
08-31-2016, 03:12 PM
Nalien

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

I wonder where the Esoteric gear will go.

My guesses;

Hunts - Already get Law gear from those now though.
Dungeons - No 3.0 version of Antiquated gear yet.
Grand Company Seals - We're getting new ranks after all.
Platoon Missions - Since they're likely going to need to reward something...
Wondrous Tails - Same as above.
08-31-2016, 06:58 PM
Yasminou
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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

Actually ilvl increases coincide with the typical tome/raid cycling as new Raids are introduced, and even in 2.0 the ilevel of the gear you get from 2 dungeons increased by patch

Initial Endgame Dungeons: i55

2.1: 60
Small remark : We could already get i60 gear in 2.0 AK while we got i55 gear in 2.0 WP. When SE released patch 2.1, they nerfed AK to be on par with WP and changed its reward accordingly, hence now it drops i55 gear. This allowed SE to move i60 gear in the 3 new dungeons of 2.1.
08-31-2016, 07:17 PM
StrejdaTom

Yoshi already confirmed they aren't changing the main formula. So get used to tomestones, they are staying for quite a bit. :)
08-31-2016, 08:00 PM
Bourne_Endeavor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nalien

My guesses;

Hunts - Already get Law gear from those now though.
Dungeons - No 3.0 version of Antiquated gear yet.
Grand Company Seals - We're getting new ranks after all.
Platoon Missions - Since they're likely going to need to reward something...
Wondrous Tails - Same as above.

I get the sneaking suspicion they'll stuff it all in the Diadem in the hopes of getting people back into there come 3.5.
08-31-2016, 08:08 PM
ADVSS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

I get the sneaking suspicion they'll stuff it all in the Diadem in the hopes of getting people back into there come 3.5.

with random stats? That'd be sweet, currently got the eso gear on my retainer for glamouring to the last gear that comes out, if it looks terribad
08-31-2016, 08:52 PM
loreleidiangelo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felis

We have still august. Wait another week for real 3.4 Lodestone news.
Or read the live letter summary

This is literally the ONLY "news" we're going to get for people who don't raid. What stupid name they've come up with for the weekly capped tome this time, and then later news about what two faceroll dungeons we'll all get to run ad nauseam for three months straight as the only viable means to progress our gear.

Aside from MAYBE giving the new extreme primal a go while it's still relevant, 3.4 has nothing of value for me. I'll be back with the catch-up patch in 3.5, maybe.
08-31-2016, 10:46 PM
Chimeric

Made a thread and post with a link to lodestone and a joke about how Scripture tomes will almost certainly be shortened to "scrips", ended up with 4 pages of salt about tomestone switching.

Sounds about right.
08-31-2016, 10:51 PM
ADVSS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimeric

Made a thread and post with a link to lodestone and a joke about how Scripture tomes will almost certainly be shortened to "scrips", ended up with 4 pages of salt about tomestone switching.

Sounds about right.

I see what you did there HA
09-01-2016, 01:08 PM
Jacien

Since nobody asked, in case you're wondering why the name wasn't chosen to be "Tomestone of Theology" like the French/German version, it's because it was already used for the Key Item used in unlocking Sephirot EX.

http://i.imgur.com/9BxZomG.png
09-01-2016, 02:03 PM
Morningstar1337

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacien

Since nobody asked, in case you're wondering why the name wasn't chosen to be "Tomestone of Theology" like the French/German version, it's because it was already used for the Key Item used in unlocking Sephirot EX.

http://i.imgur.com/9BxZomG.png

Now the question is, What was the French/German name for THAT item?
09-01-2016, 03:56 PM
Starkbeaumont

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

Now the question is, What was the French/German name for THAT item?

le mémoquartz allagois séphirotique = allagan tomestone of sephirot
Authentifizierungssystem = authenticator

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