[REQUEST] Resume crafting progress when disconnected

As someone who has the misfortune of having an intermittent internet connection, it concerns me how there are no safeguards to crafting when a person gets disconnected. I can see how simply reclaiming the materials can't work, as such a feature can be easily exploited, but can we get something in place so that crafting progress can be resumed? We have a similar thing in place right now with Chocobo Porters so I'd like to think that the framework is there.

Please please PLEASE make this happen! Materials for endgame crafting are incredibly expensive! Having to constantly fear the loss of materials really puts a damper on the experience.

This has been a request for ages. I don't think we will ever see it anytime soon. Due to some server side resources or something to the latter.

They explicitly prevented this to stop people disconnecting if a craft looked like it would fail to be HQ, thus allowing a second chance. It will not be implemented any time soon, if ever, due to that plus how the system works. It's just not set up to allow things like this & would require a complete rebuild to do so - something even more major than the death of 1.xx.

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

They explicitly prevented this to stop people disconnecting if a craft looked like it would fail to be HQ, thus allowing a second chance. It will not be implemented any time soon, if ever, due to that plus how the system works. It's just not set up to allow things like this & would require a complete rebuild to do so - something even more major than the death of 1.xx.

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It would require an overhaul, but it wouldn't allow a free second chance based on what I see the OP asking for. The OP appears to be asking for the ability to reconnect in the middle of crafting right where you leave off if disconnected.

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Originally Posted by aesteval

It would require an overhaul, but it wouldn't allow a free second chance based on what I see the OP asking for. The OP appears to be asking for the ability to reconnect in the middle of crafting right where you leave off if disconnected.

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It would require an overhaul so extensive that it would be a new game as the server-client connection would have to be delay less. It just can't happen. It would also allow exploits due to this 'advanced' server-client connection via software performing 'man in the middle' functions. That's why crafting is the way it is.

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

It would require an overhaul so extensive that it would be a new game as the server-client connection would have to be delay less. It just can't happen. It would also allow exploits due to this 'advanced' server-client connection via software performing 'man in the middle' functions. That's why crafting is the way it is.

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Like I said, it would require an overhaul. However the current option is to risk losing rare and expensive mats due to a disconnect outside of a player's control. That doesn't seem like a great option either.

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Originally Posted by aesteval

Like I said, it would require an overhaul. However the current option is to risk losing rare and expensive mats due to a disconnect outside of a player's control. That doesn't seem like a great option either.

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I fully understand but it's just not possible. I would love to have a device that plugs into my brain stem & takes me to Eorzea (virtually) but that too is not possible at this time. It's not that I disagree with the intent or desire but it's asking for what, at the moment, we have been told is impossible in FFXIV. It's basically screaming into the void.

I'm not sure why this would require an overhaul at all. It's not like crafting is processed client-side first and tells the server the results. You press the button, the server is told what you pressed and then sends back the results. All the server has to do is hold on to is the item id, three progress stats and your CP. This is information it already has in temporary storage before a disconnect.

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

I'm not sure why this would require an overhaul at all.

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Try this out - craft an item & then immediately disconnect. It's likely that the item no longer exists in your inventory, nor do the materials you crafted with. What you propose sounds logical & a simple fix but it's not how the game works, otherwise they'd implement it. They've said numerous times that the system is currently running on a knife-edge balance between playability & keeping the server-client in sync. The proposal to make crafts recoverable from interruption would knock the balance off & create an unplayable game.

The only other way would be to have a separate sync for crafting only, via a new client, in personal instanced zones. The server overhead for this would be immense & would require a significant increase in subscription costs at the very least.

To reiterate - from what we know it's just *not possible* with the current system.

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

I fully understand but it's just not possible. I would love to have a device that plugs into my brain stem & takes me to Eorzea (virtually) but that too is not possible at this time. It's not that I disagree with the intent or desire but it's asking for what, at the moment, we have been told is impossible in FFXIV. It's basically screaming into the void.

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Screaming into the void has uses though. Might make someone keep it in mind for the future or "next time." It's a user unfriendly design aspect and as much as I understand why it's set up this way (it has bad potential for exploit otherwise,) scream scream scream.

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

I'm not sure why this would require an overhaul at all. It's not like crafting is processed client-side first and tells the server the results. You press the button, the server is told what you pressed and then sends back the results. All the server has to do is hold on to is the item id, three progress stats and your CP. This is information it already has in temporary storage before a disconnect.

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The biggest issue may be that whatever would be done to allow this has to be done in a way that prevents introducing an exploit. Things that can go weird when introducing code can end up being quite interesting and it can be genuinely hard to always see how random unexpected factors can muck up an expected use case. And once you throw users at it...

This would be appreciated, if it's at all possible.

For example, remembering my current state on the item (quality, buffs, durability) each time a new Step progresses. If a disconnect occurs, dump the mats back to inventory. Log back in, the item has 'Resume Progress' option, which restores the last recorded state the synthesis was in. Choosing to reject 'Resume Progress' warns you that any materials contributed to that synthesis will be forfeited (regardless of what you're trying to craft with them now).

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

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I know what the game does now, obviously no one would request a change if it worked as requested. ;D It just seems that when the game detects a disconnect then it could take what's in temporary memory and shove it somewhere until the person logs back on and then just continue. I can sit in the middle of a craft for as long as I can stay connected, so it's sitting stored all that time. The disconnect just tells it to wipe all that out, so that just needs to be changed to be temporary storage and upon a character logging back in, reactivate the craft using the info. This shouldn't be exploitable as it's not resetting, you just start where you were, as if you'd run off to take a break mid craft and just returned. The separate instancing and such doesn't seem to be needed as it already does something when disconnected to demolish the craft, they just need to change whatever the routine is to store a minuscule amount of information.

Triple Triad already does this so it's not that far-fetched.

I can clearly see that no matter how many times I point out that the system can't support it at this present time people just don't want to listen.

There's not much point in continuing a circular discussion so I will bow out. It's not about what we want to be able to do but what is possible with the current system. If you fail to see that then be my guest & continue to craw about things that you've been told won't happen.

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

I can clearly see that no matter how many times I point out that the system can't support it at this present time people just don't want to listen.

There's not much point in continuing a circular discussion so I will bow out. It's not about what we want to be able to do but what is possible with the current system. If you fail to see that then be my guest & continue to craw about things that you've been told won't happen.

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I just don't believe in the slightest the system can't support it. If the system couldn't then all the the new content would have to be halted. They have every ability to change the system, they're simply choosing not to at this time. This is not a complex issue, but it does take a bit of time to tweak to work. The only thing stopping them is directing one of the programmers to take the time to get it done.