Limited Time Raid events idea

A limited time raid event, maybe once or twice a year, could be fun.

What is a limited time raid event?
- It is a raid that is only available for a certain time, like the season events.

Why make it?
-It could be a fun and cool way to give special items (mounts, glamour , or fantasia, ect.) to players who complete the raid.

Is it unfair to players who do not raid?
-I don't think so, nothing is stopping them from forming a group to attempt them.
It also gives a good incentive to keep player "at the top of their game" not knowing when the next limited time raid will occur. It also rewards players who play regularly.

How would it work?
-SE would create a special Fight that is only available once or twice a year, and changes each year and gives out different prizes for completion.
In my opinion it should be slightly difficult. But not in a way that you have to memorize mechanics to pass it. It could even be Alternate versions of primals like "TITAN LTRE"
or something completely new.


I know there are some logistical issues, like how much work it would be, but creating any event takes up resources. I don't expect it to be implemented, especially not anytime soon, but I think it would be very cool idea and give high level characters something to look forward too.

I'm not against this (I'm not a raider so I don't care) but I can already see the storm of threads crying about how they did that when someone wasn't max level / it was to hard and all the other stuff that ppl tend to QQ about.

The FF14 Playerbase seems to have a problem with exclusive rewards so I don't think this will turn out as good as it sounds.

It could be interesting. Might even be something they could use the Deep Dungeon system for.

I would just love it.

Seems like a huge world boss that you can only defeat with a party of 8 members.
Sounds really interesting to me ! :)

There will be "reserving instance" problem due to many people queuing for it though.

I would love it but know that the servers just couldn't handle it. There'd be so much salt that the earth would turn into a pea.

I think putting resources on a new limited-time raid would be a waste, considering that not enough people do the ongoing raids. However, they could put limited-time rewards on existing raids (50 synched and 60) and this would boost participation and possibly invite more people to try it.

For fairness towards new players the rewards should IMO be given in the form of currency, so one could buy any past reward in the future. People should be able to buy one item of their choosing every event, whilst SE makes one new item per event.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

I think putting resources on a new limited-time raid would be a waste, considering that not enough people do the ongoing raids.

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And those people who do raid are already clamoring for more permanent raiding content than we currently get.

Resources could definitely be put to better use than temporary raids.

Kinda reminds me of the modified Primal fights they have for people at Fanfest where players get a T-shirt or such for winning.

Anyway I don't see SE spending resources on limited events that not everyone can participate in. My understanding is that the people at Fanfest are given preset characters to complete the fights. In game special events tend to be low level in ARR areas so even new players can participate.
The highest I can remember a special event going was the Lightning Returns event where the last chapter required your character to be in the low 40s IIRC.

Waste of resources because they will pour lots of money into it, only for it to be used once a year.

Im down for this

Make it more unique - make it a crafting raid!

Full endgame crafting and gathering equip plus food required, just as in raids. People need to gather the mats needed to craft the required items in real time with AoEs regularly forcing you to interrupt your rotation and move, otherwise you die or worse, wipe the raid, so you gotta be quick. Watch the adds! They may not see you using their internal stations to make the craft easier or pillage from their stocks. Naturally, the customer demanding the goods has an enrage timer as well.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

For fairness towards new players the rewards should IMO be given in the form of currency, so one could buy any past reward in the future. People should be able to buy one item of their choosing every event, whilst SE makes one new item per event.

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The whole point is for people who are ready for raiding not new players. Can anything be focused on current players who are leveled/geared enough for said content? New players have enough to worry about.

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Originally Posted by bass9020

The whole point is for people who are ready for raiding not new players. Can anything be focused on current players who are leveled/geared enough for said content? New players have enough to worry about.

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Nope! The name of the game is attracting as many new players as possible while giving current players juuuuust enough to keep them from cancelling their subscription. That's why Palace of the Dead was made for level 17 newbies who don't hit a button every GCD and all the monsters in it die in 3 hits. It's also why every seasonal event is as boring as possible and focuses on low level FATEs and doing "talk to this person 3 times" quests. Anyone in full 240 (which at this point should be literally everyone who has been playing the game for the last 2 months thanks to welfare upgrade items) should expect basically no content that actually makes use of their current gear, because the easy mode raid will drop higher item level stuff.

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Originally Posted by bass9020

The whole point is for people who are ready for raiding not new players. Can anything be focused on current players who are leveled/geared enough for said content? New players have enough to worry about.

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Are you saying new players are too stupid to raid or what? When I said new I meant people who start the game later than now, which would lock them out of rewards simply for being here at the wrong time. They will be ready to raid one day. All I suggested was allowing people to not miss out on a specific reward they really like just because they weren't playing or raiding as of today. Everyone would still only get one reward per raid event in my suggestion, as they would have to give up the newest reward to get an older one. You would still be ahead if you started doing the events sooner rather than later.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Are you saying new players are too stupid to raid or what? When I said new I meant people who start the game later than now, which would lock them out of rewards simply for being here at the wrong time. They will be ready to raid one day. All I suggested was allowing people to not miss out on a specific reward they really like just because they weren't playing or raiding as of today. Everyone would still only get one reward per raid event in my suggestion, as they would have to give up the newest reward to get an older one. You would still be ahead if you started doing the events sooner rather than later.

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Where did I ever say new players were stupid??? All I said was can any events/content be focused on the ready current players. Nothing is substantial for us we always get the hand me downs. I guess thats what we get for being the dedicated player base that keeps the game going.

Whether a raid or a light party duty, i love the idea of seasonal dungeons or trials with special rewards. I think things like that can help spice up seasonal events.

I think its really funny, just how much the playerbase is worried about their "limited resources". I don't think that the amount ofresources they have should be a limitation on what ideas we give or what ideas should be implemented if they are fun.

As players it's not out job to worry about their resources.
That's like being a kid and not asking your parents for stuff for Christmas because you think they don't have enough money.
We shouldn't let server limitations or limited resources even enter our minds, if it's a problem then they will say so.

I do respect all the replies and thoughts, thank you for that.

One point is that, I did mean it for current players and not so much for new players. I am not a hardcore raider atm, but I do think that having ONE raid event a year really wouldn't be so bad. Considering we have like 20 new player events.

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Originally Posted by bass9020

Where did I ever say new players were stupid??? All I said was can any events/content be focused on the ready current players. Nothing is substantial for us we always get the hand me downs. I guess thats what we get for being the dedicated player base that keeps the game going.

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"New players have enough to worry about" sounded pretty condescending to me, as if them being new was a reason to not care that they might also want to take part and get those rewards later. How exactly is it "hand me downs" if you make the reward system inviting also to new raiding players, so no one is missing out? It's like people see the words new player and immediately cry fowl even though I didn't ask for nerfs or level 17 raids. It's end game content for end game players, except the rewards are motivating to future end game players as well while at the same time remaining somewhat exclusive. What's so wrong with focusing on everyone instead of the small amount of players who are ready, willing and available to raid just this moment? I don't want another Lightning / seasonal event / promotion fiasco (you have lost your chance to get the items), but rather something like veteran rewards (you are behind but can get the items eventually). The former does not motivate a player to become a long term player, whereas the latter does.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

"New players have enough to worry about" sounded pretty condescending to me, as if them being new was a reason to not care that they might also want to take part and get those rewards later. How exactly is it "hand me downs" if you make the reward system inviting also to new raiding players, so no one is missing out? It's like people see the words new player and immediately cry fowl even though I didn't ask for nerfs or level 17 raids. It's end game content for end game players, except the rewards are motivating to future end game players as well while at the same time remaining somewhat exclusive. What's so wrong with focusing on everyone instead of the small amount of players who are ready, willing and available to raid just this moment? I don't want another Lightning / seasonal event / promotion fiasco (you have lost your chance to get the items), but rather something like veteran rewards (you are behind but can get the items eventually). The former does not motivate a player to become a long term player, whereas the latter does.

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If you think that sounds condescending then I don't know what to tell you. Goodbye.

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Originally Posted by kingatlas

I think its really funny, just how much the playerbase is worried about their "limited resources". I don't think that the amount of resources they have should be a limitation on what ideas we give or what ideas should be implemented if they are fun.

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I think it's less "worrying" about the resources and more being able to look at something and see that it's probably a non-starter.

As soon as you start significantly limiting the target audience for potential content, you've already moved drastically outside the realm of content that's ever likely to get implemented in the game.

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Originally Posted by kingatlas

That's like being a kid and not asking your parents for stuff for Christmas because you think they don't have enough money.

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It's more like a kid realizing that there's no point asking for a new car for Christmas when their parents are already struggling to put a meal on the table every day.

Was with you until:

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Originally Posted by kingatlas

That's like being a kid and not asking your parents for stuff for Christmas because you think they don't have enough money.

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As someone who came from a dirt poor background I was very conscious of asking my parents for something they could afford (if asking at all) & not ever showing disappointment if I didn't receive it. I mostly got things I asked for, even if in a 'bargain' format, bless their hearts. I can't imagine what kind of vile creature would deliberately put their parents in the position of feeling like failures because they couldn't give their child what they asked for.

Its getting off topic, lmao. I meant wouldn't It make your parents feel more like crap if you said you can't afford to get me presents so don't worry about it. And I said "you think", not "you know"

It's not our job to worry about what resources they have, they aren't "struggling to put food on the table".


Saying an idea that isn't reasonable because of resources is kinda silly.
What data do we have on their current resources?
We should feel free to put out our ideas, and hope for the best.

I already stated in the OP that I doubt it would get implemented, but it would be fun if it did.
gotta be an optimist sometimes in life. I understand being realistic is great for real life, but this is a game.

So As I said, It would be great to have limited time raid events maybe once or twice a year.

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Originally Posted by kingatlas

It's not our job to worry about what resources they have, they aren't "struggling to put food on the table".

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But they clearly are.

How many times per day is it brought up that there are only two or three fights per six months that fall in the range between "can be easily cleared in DF while watch Netflix" and "requires 10+ minutes of eight people making minimal or no mistakes"?

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Originally Posted by kingatlas

Saying an idea that isn't reasonable because of resources is kinda silly.
What data do we have on their current resources?

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We know, because they've straight up told us, that they don't have enough resources to produce a third raid difficulty that falls between Normal and Savage.

If they don't have sufficient resources to re-tune an existing raid, for which all the art assets, mechanics, etc. are all in place, presumably they wouldn't have sufficient resources to create entirely new encounters. Even if they did manage to find more resources, why would they want to limit the availability of those encounters, given that there's already a shortage of relevant-difficulty raiding content for a significant portion of the player base?

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Originally Posted by kingatlas

We should feel free to put out our ideas, and hope for the best.

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Sure, but you'll probably find people more interesting in engaging in discussion about an idea if you put forth one that's actually plausible.

I get completely what you're saying, to be honest (putting the off topic stuff to the side) but all we're doing is giving you the answer now that they will give later.

I agree that resources shouldn't be a concern for us players. Heck, they shouldn't be a concern for SE if the game is doing as well as claimed, the money should be there for whatever they need. Unfortunately, we have to face the fact that they, unlike most companies I know, only ever work to resources & seem to be unwilling to expand capacity or capabilities at this stage.

you win Ibi I give up. Good Luck have fun.