The Gift of the Archmagus queue times

After sitting in queue for Labyrinth of Ancients for two days in a row, 120+ minutes, I have experienced so many withdrawing from queue that it just makes me go mad. And all of the waiting just for one single quest. Yes, I can still farm fates for Yokai watch in meantime, yes, I can do some crafting/gathering while I wait but it is still a bit too long queue for my tastes.
Would it be possible to change something about the way how these old raids are handled? Getting in after queue has been full even if all people do not accept (like in pvp), allowing undersized parties? Perhaps make it not only datacenter limited? Any ideas/complains? :confused:

Not many people are running the old raids now a days. If you are after the Aether Oil for the relic you can purchase with Eso tomes. It is like 1800 each.

Allowing undersized parties would not be a good idea, what if you end up with no tank or 1 or no healers?

Considering the fact that Aether oil costs 1800 esos, Umbrite costs 300 esos, Unidentifiable ore/seeds costs 680 esos, when exactly are we going to have enough esos for all of it? At the moment eso costs for relic is quite crazy...
What if undersized parties would be checked so you would get at least certain amount of people? Dealing with one dps not accepting the queue is bit ridiculous.

Or you could quene on Sunday, when most people do it

For what it's worth, next major patch might switch the anima items to Lore tomes at a more favorable rate. Queue problems for CT and Coil will probably remain unless they add a raid roulette with a big tome bonus. Would also help if they let you fill slots with NPCs after the new GC content is added, but I guess it's not realistic to expect AI bots to be able to handle mechanics.

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Originally Posted by Zodiar

Or you could quene on Sunday, when most people do it

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Yeah, I just did. 120 minutes queue with around 5-6 withdrawals.

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Originally Posted by Rufalus

unless they add a raid roulette with a big tome bonus

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Perhaps special glamour gear/titles one can get after doing x amount of raid roulettes?

They really need to do some things to address queue times in certain content. Frontlines needs its Grand Company restrictions removed. Raids need a roulette. And so on.

I will never understand why people queues for these only to not accept the pop. Just don't queue if you don't have at least one hour to dedicate for the 24man duties.

Don't tell me " But emergencies happen", it's bullsh*t 95% of the time and is the ideal excuse of choice.

What are the odds that across the world people have suddenly something to do or the need to take a dump, right when a 24man queue pop every single time? Very very VERY low.
If you were just watching TV on the side or whatever, knowing you don't have enough memory to remember you are queued for a duty, do everyone a favor and don't queue at all.

Luckily i main a healer so queues rarely exceed 15mins, but when someone doesn't accept it's as equally frustrating as if i was a DPS who's been sitting there for an hour.

The problem is with long que times they may go afk for a moment and it pops on them. They may get started doing something waiting then decide they want to finish/continue what they started and cancel the que or they forget they were in que and by the time it pops they change their mind about it.

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Originally Posted by Bixillarla

The problem is with long que times they may go afk for a moment and it pops on them. They may get started doing something waiting then decide they want to finish/continue what they started and cancel the que or they forget they were in que and by the time it pops they change their mind about it.

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I was waiting on Frontlines to pop for 75 minutes last night. I ended up making a very quick trip to the restroom, get back into the room with 2 seconds left on the timer, and was unable to hit accept in time. I never cancel a queue I've been waiting forever for, but the reality of it is that these queues tend to pop at the most awful times. After I get my PvP glamour gear, I'm never stepping foot into those modes until restrictions are removed. Know how long I wait to get a match in Street Fighter, Battlefield, or Dark Souls? Not 75 minutes, that's what. The ridiculous queues make me lost interest in this game entirely because the developers value player time so little that they haven't bothered addressing the issue.

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Originally Posted by Meenesfeja

Considering the fact that Aether oil costs 1800 esos, Umbrite costs 300 esos, Unidentifiable ore/seeds costs 680 esos, when exactly are we going to have enough esos for all of it? At the moment eso costs for relic is quite crazy...

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This right here. Spending 1,800 Eso on an Aether Oil vs Gift of the Archmagus when you have to deal with more Eso for Umbrite for the very next step is a terrible idea. 1,800 Eso for an Aether Oil was no big deal when there was nothing else worth spending Eso on. Umbrite being Eso only completely broke that option.

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Originally Posted by Zodiar

Or you could quene on Sunday, when most people do it

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I know someone trying to queue today on Primal. Sunday isn't helping at the moment. Might be the queues are negatively impacted by everything else going on in game. And I've also seen fewer people in game over the past week vs when PotD and Yokai started.

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Originally Posted by NovaLevossida

developers value player time so little that they haven't bothered addressing the issue.

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At the contrary, they do value time, just not the way you would like them to.

Why? Long queues = it takes longer to achieve what you are trying to do = you play longer = you stay subbed longer = more money in their pockets.

It takes me an average of 30 min to get into one of the ARR 24 man raids. Ironically, I got all of the aether oil way before I even completed the unidentified item steps (terrible step btw) I can imagine having to spend 1800 esos just for one.

Not sure how it is now, but I remember a few months back many would do the archmagus quest as soon as it resets for the week.

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

At the contrary, they do value time, just not the way you would like them to.

Why? Long queues = it takes longer to achieve what you are trying to do = you play longer = you stay subbed longer = more money in their pockets.

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You know exactly what I meant by what I said, and I suspect you know there's a difference between acceptable queue times in a grind meant to keep players playing (curent raids, tomes, etc.) for the long term and content that is "dead" because of poor developer decisions ("but my lore!"). Saying long queue times keeps people playing is like saying Diadem was a developer success because those queues never pop. People keep playing for the other content, not for the dead content.

Labyrinth has always had quite long queue times but it became less when the magus quest was added however the problem right now is we have two events on at the moment which a lot of people are still doing so will take even longer than normal to find groups for it. Once more people finish doing these events I imagine the queue times will start to get back to normal but will still be impacted by your server population and what day and time of day try to do it. I have started to notice more and more people heading off to Mor Dhona to that NPC and getting back to their normal routines over the last few days as I headed there a lot to do the Mor Dhona Ixali beastman tribe dailies but it is still early days especially in regards to the Moonfaire one combined with the YoKai one so a huge amount of people are not back to their normal routines yet.