Can Dissipation please give you access to the sacrifice fairy abilities?

Every once in the blue moon I have had to use Dissipation, and just recently I realized that shouldn't it give you access to the consumed fairy abilities for that 30secs period? Of course they would have to be weaker compared to the original, but it would make up for the lost of your pet besides the 20% boost in healing potency.

You should be using the appropriate abilities before you pop it. If anything it should increase critical rate, increases damage, or decrease MP costs.

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

You should be using the appropriate abilities before you pop it. If anything it should increase critical rate, increases damage, or decrease MP costs.

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But what if your in a emergency situation, and everything you pop'ed are still on cooldown when you needed to Dissipation?

It's not an end all, be all, fix everything button. It is very good emergency, but better if planned. You just use an extra succor or indom if you need the heals.

The skill, to me, is allot more about aggressively gaining aetherflow, during opportune downtime or low healing. It can definitely save an encounter without planning, as is.

This should up damage yeah. That would be a strategic use to pop it to increase your dps when you know you dont need your fairy for 30sec.

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Originally Posted by Bigcat9715

But what if your in a emergency situation, and everything you pop'ed are still on cooldown when you needed to Dissipation?

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If you're treating Dissipation purely as an emergency button, you are using the ability wrong in the first place (same as WHMs who keep sitting on Benediction and Tetra for this purpose). Yes, it can be used that way, but the major uses for the ability are strategic: for additional DPS, in preparation for a planned fairy switch, and/or to buff deployed Adlos, often all of this at the same time. For example, back when Sephirot Ex was new, our SCH would usually use Selene for the first two phases because I was mostly solo healing the first phase anyway, then sacrificed her at the end of the add phase to push a bit more DPS, then used the 20% heal buff for the Adlo he deployed for the Ultimate, and afterwards summoned Eos for the last phase once the buff wore off.

Yep, slowpoke is spot on. Ideally you want to plan to use Dissipate. There are times when you really don't need Embrace or fairy cooldowns for the 30s, maybe you used up fairy CDs and Dissipate is your next planned option, maybe you want to plan a fairy switch.

I usually Dissipate during the Seph Ex add phase to sac Selene. Before the last phase is a good option too since there is no healing involved for awhile and can get a stronger spread for ultimate. The adds phase for me was mainly to get full stacks after blowing whatever is left for ED/DPS while Aetherflow is on cooldown, but also get stronger shields for up to two sets of add burn damage, then re-summon Eos for ultimate and last phase. Both are planned uses, allow a seamless fairy switch, and have strong benefits.

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Originally Posted by _slowpoke_

If you're treating Dissipation purely as an emergency button, you are using the ability wrong in the first place(...)

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Originally Posted by technole

Ideally you want to plan to use Dissipate.

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If people could only understand this. Dissipation is a terrible panic button.

Dissipate should be the Scholars version of Enkindle, that would make the most sense. Hopefully in 4.0 they will do that.

It should be a utility CD that swaps your current fairy for your other one, keeping the original on CD for a time. Losing the fairy completely is why most SCH's don't look twice at Dissipation. It's probably the least used skill in the game after One Ilm Punch.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

It should be a utility CD that swaps your current fairy for your other one, keeping the original on CD for a time. Losing the fairy completely is why most SCH's don't look twice at Dissipation. It's probably the least used skill in the game after One Ilm Punch.

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At 70, I'm really hoping they give Dissipation another effect, like increased damage, crit rate or decreased mana cost. Then a skill like this could be introduced to switch fairies and other gains. Don't worry other healers. I'm sure youll get your own share of the love. Looking at you Synastry. >.>

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Aetherical Refinement (Insert SCH based skill name here)
Cool Down: 180 seconds

Your command Lilly to change her aspect. Current Pet is sent away and is replaced by the alternate.
While under the effect of Dissipation, remove Dissipation and the alternate pet that was not consumed by dissipation, is summoned.

Additional Effect: Fey Wind, Fey Caress, Silent Dusk, Whispering Dawn, Fey Illumination, and Fey Covenant have their Cool Down reset.

Can only be used under the effect of Dissipation or when a Pet is present. Summon and Summon II are disabled after use for 30 seconds.

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Increases use of Dissipation, almost creating a true job mechanic, while encouraging fairy swaps. Keeping dissipation up would reward DPS, but wouldn't strangle its user by its downsides, as it can now. This would be much later down the road. Right now, Dissipation alone is an amazing tool that serves its purpose.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

It's probably the least used skill in the game after One Ilm Punch.

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As I pointed out previously, if you barely use Dissipation, you are doing something very wrong, and I question your competence as a SCH. It should be used at least once in just about every fight, even if it's just at the end to burn down the last few percent of a boss with the additional Aetherflow stacks.

I agree, dissipation is always a good boost and in the least way an emergency button

Because killing the fairy that do almost 50% of your heal
Is in no way an emergency method XD

Its a perfectly fine Emergency Button, but blowing it on healing (for the lustrates/indom, not for the +20% healing, which is just there to keep you afloat,) is like blowing Presence of Mind on healing. It has better uses and you want to keep it for the DPS boost. xD The skill presents so many opportunities in almost every fight. Syncing to 50 without it, makes me feel naked now. xD

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

It's probably the least used skill in the game after One Ilm Punch.

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Totally off-topic but One Ilm Punch is used quite alot in PVP (your statement was "in the game" and pvp is part of the game, thus the use in pvp counts in comparison) and qualifies no where near as the least used skill in the game. If you want to call a useless ability then it would be haymaker. Haymaker to this day is the most useless skill I have ever seen...or not seen more like. I don't remember how the animation looks like. I don't know the potency. I just know it's really really bad and no one ever uses it. There are skills that aren't used in PvE but are good in pvp and used quite a bit (Feint, Freeze, One Ilm Punch, Lethargy) except for Haymaker. It's not even good in pvp.

Sorry for being off-topic. I couldn't resist.

I definitely don't use it much other than for my raid dps. Or if a big aoe is coming and i ran out of af so i can hit indom and/or lustrate. After u rock the haste of course. Ya it would be nice for a bonus other than 3 af, because the heal buff we get just equals my healing as me and my fairy heals combined.

I would love to have it change to a form like smn with a buff...i like flashy things, a bunch of glowing book pages flowing around like in the animes lol

Dissipation is kinda like a 450 potency cooldown for when your co-healer is on point.