Endgame Confusion: What to do, what to skip?

Hey All,

I'm new to the game, currently leveling a WHM, 46 atm. I ran into the Beast Tribe dailies and I can't decide if I should do them or not. Also, Grand Company stuff.

I want to prepare for endgame activities such as raiding, but I want to skip outdated content. With that in mind, my question is what should I concentrate on and what should I avoid.

Thank you. :)

You can skip the level 50 dungeons and just keep on with MSQ to level

when you hit 60 and the end of 3.0 patch MSQ you will be at ilvl 150 with most of the good content being ilvl 175 minimum with new content being ilvl 205

This is the point you will need to grid Eso/lore or buy ilvl 220 craft gear to get your ilvl's up and then lvl 60 dungeon and 24 man raid gear should get you to ilvl 240

The beast tribe quests were always side content unless you want the mounts/outfits. If you are only interested in the combat portions and want to get to "end game" just do the main scenario quests (with the flame icon) unless you need to grind out some levels and don't feel like doing dungeons.

While I agree there is a lot of content that you can skip, you may not want to skip it. The devs frequently re-use content for various things, specifically the relic weapon quests. So far they have used beast tribe dailies, the old 24 man raids (Crystal Tower series), and the current phase has a fairly large grind for esoterics and your lvl50 roulette which you need to do the level 50 dungeons to access. The game tries to keep veteran players going back to this content to keep a steady supply of people going through to help new players through it. For now you can level right to 60 following on the main story questline but once you get to 60, you'll probably want to circle back around and start working on some of the old content so that you're prepared for whatever the future may bring.

All I can say is MSQ cuz push the MSQ to heavensward content. If you are lv 50 I suggest you could grind poetic tomestones for ilv 120 gears just to make your journey to Heavensward easier. As for the lv 50 Duty Roulette, you can either skip it or do it for the poetic tomestones XD IMO unlocking lv 50 Roulette is good in a long run because you have extra income of poetic tomestones, exp, gils, and some of Heavenswards dungeons are remake of the lv 50 dungeons since it needs completion of those to do the lv 60 ones. Just choose a path, relax and enjoy your adventure toward 3.0 contents. :)

If you need an extra experience boost and you're into mounts and minions, pick up some beast tribes. When you're deeper in the game you'll want to max at least a few of them.

However, on the other hand, when you're deeper in the game it will be easier for you to max them out quickly and efficiently.

Like Dement said, it's worthwile to do some "extra" content to help you later with the current ones. At levels 50 and 60, it's a good idea to do all the dungeons and (at least non-extreme) trials to unlock all the roulettes for tome bonuses. As also mentioned, the Crystal Tower 24-person raids are still somewhat relevant (because of the current relic quest) and worth doing at some point, and they're available at level 50.

At level 60 you can follow this list of Heavensward content from level 60 onwards. Your main priority at level 60 should be capping your allagan tomestones of lore each week (450 per week, used to buy i230 gear which can be upgraded to i240) and doing your weekly Weeping City for loot (i230, limited to one item per week, running Weeping City and Void Ark will also provide you items to trade for gear upgrade items and grade V materia). (Upgraded) Lore gear and Weeping City gear are the best gear you can currently have in the game without doing Midas Savage, and if you wish to do Savage, they're practically a requirement for that. The most important level 60 content to complete are the dungeons, Alexander normal, and the older level 60 24-person raid Void Ark.

At level 60 you can also start your relic weapon quest. Completing the first easy steps will give you an item level 200 weapon which is a good start for other level 60 content. If you wish to go through tons of grinding, completing the latest relic step will give you an item level 240 weapon which is the second best weapon currently in game. Alternative level 60 weapons are i230 Lore weapon (can't currently be upgraded without doing Savage), upgraded Esoteric weapon (i210), or Nidhogg extreme weapon (i235, but you need a good weapon and gear set to be able to beat the fight).

My reply is from a gear and progression centric perspective, but if you want to get into raiding, these are the things that are most important. Other stuff such as beastmen tribes you can of course do and they might be useful (for example the beastmen quest provide you free materia and / or useful currency for the relic quest).

I think the Ixal quests start at 30. They are a really good way of leveling up your crafters to 50. When you get to level 50, You'll want to move on to the Moogles. They offer much better crafter EXP than Ixal. This is of course assuming you want to level your crafters.

The dev team has shown time and time again that they like to make older content relavent to brand new content. For example, 2.X beast tribes are a good source of Grade IV materia. Also they are one of the best ways to gain items for the relic weapon quest in 3.1 (Relics are basically long tedious grinds for a weapon as strong as you get for defeating the end game raids).

My advice is never to skip anything, but don't force yourself to do stuff you don't enjoy. Do your beast tribes, but if you start to get bored of them, skip them for a few days or weeks. Maybe just do 1 beast tribe quest every 3 days until you can be bothered to do more in a day.

Certain level 50 content isn't that popular at all. Like Odin Trial fight and Ultima Trial fight. However you can always ask friends to help you and even Novice Network to see if people are willing to help you.

For someone new to the game, I do not recommend doing any Relic Weapon stuff. It's a pretty hardcore grind. If you're only interested in raiding at max level, then you're way too early to be asking about it. Just keep going with the Main Scenario and enjoy it. Also, I really want to encourage you to do many things as raiding is only an extremely tiny part of the game, even though it is the most difficult part.

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Originally Posted by Ebonwings

All I can say is MSQ cuz push the MSQ to heavensward content. If you are lv 50 I suggest you could grind poetic tomestones for ilv 120 gears just to make your journey to Heavensward easier. As for the lv 50 Duty Roulette, you can either skip it or do it for the poetic tomestones XD IMO unlocking lv 50 Roulette is good in a long run because you have extra income of poetic tomestones, exp, gils, and some of Heavenswards dungeons are remake of the lv 50 dungeons since it needs completion of those to do the lv 60 ones. Just choose a path, relax and enjoy your adventure toward 3.0 contents. :)

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Don't need that anymore. Whole MSQ rewards now not only ilvl 90 gear at the start, but also 110. Heavenward msq rewards 115, since you're already level 55 by the time you hit heavenward, and level 52 if you skipped half of the ARR content, you're way out level'd for that gear anyways. Buy some 120 pieces if you're doing the roulettes, but don't farm poetics or CT/ST/WoD since it's pointless.

Personally, while most people skip it, one I would recommend doing if you want a challenge would be the Binding Coils of Bahamut. Yes it'd outdated due to Heavensward but it's one that I, as well as a good chunk of my friends, enjoy doing time and time again... except for T9. Anyone who's cleared it can probably guess why.

The raid also reveals a nice bit of the backstory for FFXIV and from T5, T9, T12, and T13 will drop faded rolls that someone can help you turn into music... Or you can do that yourself if you level Alchemist.

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Originally Posted by TSLsmokey

except for T9. Anyone who's cleared it can probably guess why.

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That 1% wipe because someone messed up the debuff once AGAIN lol. I still enjoy t9 (sync'd/min ilvl), however you could just nowadays run it unsynced and skip nearly every phase of the fight, if you are just doing it for story line or glamour.

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Originally Posted by Teiren

For someone new to the game, I do not recommend doing any Relic Weapon stuff. It's a pretty hardcore grind. If you're only interested in raiding at max level, then you're way too early to be asking about it. Just keep going with the Main Scenario and enjoy it. Also, I really want to encourage you to do many things as raiding is only an extremely tiny part of the game, even though it is the most difficult part.

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I was actually wondering if the relic weapon you get from the questline that starts at lvl50 is still viable or outdated now?

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Originally Posted by LunaFaye

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I guess that's one way to do it get a few of 120 gear and pick up the rest along the way.

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Originally Posted by TSLsmokey

except for T9. Anyone who's cleared it can probably guess why.

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If people could get pass the second phase at all.... Meteor drops, forgot to pay attention, boom !
Don't pay attention to golem positions, yay we get to see the true size golem \o/

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Originally Posted by Elizabeast

I was actually wondering if the relic weapon you get from the questline that starts at lvl50 is still viable or outdated now?

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The Relic/Zodiac weapons are outdated now and you will get better stuff going through the Heavensward storyline. That said, they are unique weapon models and most of them look pretty awesome even compared to newer gear so if you want a specific one it might be something you will be able to do on the side. The process getting it is much faster than it used to be but it still will take quite a lot of time.

Finishing a Zodiac weapon lets you skip the first phase of the Anima weapon questline but thanks to a recent patch that first step is a lot less time-consuming than it used to be so I would just start there if you want to work on Anima weapons.

Since no one has mentioned it, I'd recommend getting to max rank in your Grand Company since the hunt system is locked behind that. It's a nice bit of XP and currency while leveling stuff up in Heavensward and it will give you a little bit of a head start in gear once you hit 60.

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Originally Posted by Elizabeast

I was actually wondering if the relic weapon you get from the questline that starts at lvl50 is still viable or outdated now?

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It's outdated. For level 50 content, the final relic is good, but that's maybe like 3 months of grind when you can easily get a slightly weaker weapon like augmented Ironworks in less than a week.

The only part of the Relic that is still viable now days is the first quest I would say. Doing it unlocks 2 new trial fights which is not necessary but it's good to have unlocked if you're a completionist. Those 2 fights are in Trials Roulette so even if no one is doing those fights, people doing roulette will still team up with you to clear them.

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Originally Posted by Elizabeast

I was actually wondering if the relic weapon you get from the questline that starts at lvl50 is still viable or outdated now?

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The level 50 relic is outdated gear; at this point its an insane grind just for glamour. However if you're considering the level 60 relic then start your beast tribe quests now. Its also a huge grind but the weapon isn't outdated yet and if you start working on the currencies for it now, it will be a lot less painful to do when you hit 60. Its no less work but it won't feel as bad when you spread out the work over time.

Thanks for the answers, everyone!

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Originally Posted by Elizabeast

I was actually wondering if the relic weapon you get from the questline that starts at lvl50 is still viable or outdated now?

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If you do the entire quest and upgrade it all the way, the lvl 50 relic a viable weapon until about level 55. But its MUCH more work then several of the alternatives, so these days its basically relegated to glamour status. The level 60 relic is current and a valid option(though not necessarily BiS) for any class. And to build on what Estellios and Alien said, if you intend to chase said relic once you get to 60 then it would help to spend some time raising your GC level and working on your beast tribe status. Tribal tokens and hunting tokens can be used to shorten some of its steps, and you can get a big head start on it by going early.