Short Term Solution: Client-Side Only Jumping until Server Fixed

Since everyone (everyone important, at least!) wants Jump, and there are issues with the server, why not add Client side jumping for now?

If Jumping is cosmetic only, as in it doesn't give you access to new areas, why not let us jump and see it only on our computer for now.

This does 2 things:
Lets us feel like we're playing a game with jump

Doesn't let other players see jump spamming


As time goes on, and the server improves, then add it to the servers as well. The same way /display mh worked in 1.18 initially.
It's definitely lame to have your character stuck on the ground

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If Jumping is cosmetic only, as in it doesn't give you access to new areas, why not let us jump and see it only on our computer for now.

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Which begs the obvious question... why?

The servers aren't going to slowly transition, they're being replaced.

The problem with the jump as it currently is in development is because they are not satisfied with the animation and height. Why would they want to add a cosmetic only jump with an animation they aren't happy with?

Perfect the code before pushing it to live.

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Originally Posted by Djeserit

The problem with the jump as it currently is in development is because they are not satisfied with the animation and height. Why would they want to add a cosmetic only jump with an animation they aren't happy with?

Perfect the code before pushing it to live.

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+1, what Djeserit said. The only reason to add a cosmetic-only jump into the game at this point is so people can spam jumping as they walk around. As it servers little other functional purpose until the maps get updated to make use of it.

...I really don't see the point of a cosmetic only jump. I don't know about you, but when I jog down the street, I do stay pretty stuck to the ground. I don't get a sudden urge to jump randomly. Maybe I'll skip if I'm feeling REALLY happy that day, but I never just randomly jump.

People want jump just to jump, that's all it's going to be used for when they do implement it regardless, since Yoshida has used the word 'emote' in regards to Jump before.

Never used anything like "Scaling terrain" or "Used in Battle", basically, an animation just so people don't feel tethered to the ground. The only reason not to add it now is because the servers are faulty which they can't even do basic LS options because of it.

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Originally Posted by Djeserit

The problem with the jump as it currently is in development is because they are not satisfied with the animation and height. Why would they want to add a cosmetic only jump with an animation they aren't happy with?

Perfect the code before pushing it to live.

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Because "the important people" want it, and feel they absolutely must have it, apparently.

It's the typical spoiled brat mentality isn't it?

People weren't sure if jump was being implemented or not for a while. Even though the road map updates had specifically stated, and Bayohne had hinted in a thread that, yes.. it would be added, people still didn't "get it".

So now it's been confirmed - again - during a live letter update.

Not even a couple days later, we already have someone saying "But why can't I have it noooow? I want to be able to jump nooooooooow."

It seems all SE announcing or confirming something accomplishes is to open up a new can of worms for people to start complaining about; it's "not doing enough", "they're not doing right", "they're not doing correctly", "they're not doing it soon enough", etc. etc. etc. I swear, I think the MMO genre has the most unappreciative, overly self-entitled people in it of any I've ever experienced.

I think I'm going to start calling these people Veruca Salts. In fact, Charlie's reaction at the beginning is pretty much spot-on to what I'm thinking when I see yet another thread like this one.

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Originally Posted by Preypacer

I think I'm going to start calling these people Veruca Salts.

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I think I may have to join you in doing that!

As far as the entitlement.... I honestly think it's a product of the monthly sub. Apparently 2 hours worth of minimum wage is a lot of money for 672-744 hours worth of entertainment potential.

Comparatively, spending $60 for a console game (40 hours or so for a good game) is a horrible investment...

I could care less to have jump in the game and I'd rather not have it take away any dev time to implement which could be focused to either create fun playable content or iron out current issues instead.

Personaly I find jumping to be silly enough and a cosmetic only jump has zero pourpose whatsoever.

I still hope they go with "location jump" where when the player reaches a jumpable obstacle only then they get the jump option by pressing "jump key" to scale over it by either climbing or leaping.

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Originally Posted by Djeserit

I think I may have to join you in doing that!

As far as the entitlement.... I honestly think it's a product of the monthly sub. Apparently 2 hours worth of minimum wage is a lot of money for 672-744 hours worth of entertainment potential.

Comparatively, spending $60 for a console game (40 hours or so for a good game) is a horrible investment...

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Good point, and I agree where the value is concerned.

Though, I don't even think the sub has anything to do with it. People do the same thing in F2P MMOs. The self-entitled, impatient and spoiled behavior isn't limited to FFXIV by any means.

They want what they want, when they want it, how they want it... because they want it. And if they don't get it, then "the devs are clueless", "don't know what they're doing", "are too slow", etc. etc. etc.

Yep... Veruca Salts, every one of them.

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Originally Posted by Preypacer

I think I'm going to start calling these people Veruca Salts

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When you mentioned Veruca Salt, I immediately thought of this video by Veruca Salt because of all the spam jumping they do...

Jumping is not cosmetic only. It cancels spell casts, duh!

I can't wait to jump in all the haters faces.

Hold on one second. It is confirmed that jumping is cosmetic only?

..../extremefacepalm

How incredibly LAME is that? So what you are telling me, is that if I am approaching a 2-3 foot cliff that I can't walk up, if I try to jump it my character will just hit an invisible wall?

God damn.

That went in the completely wrong direction with this. I was hoping jumping would be Zelda style, where you can only jump in places where you would have to. I was AT LEAST hoping if they went with mainstream jump wherever the fuck you want, that it would have PURPOSE.

So what you're telling me is there are going to be moronic jumping beans all over the place, and their jumping will never ever serve any purpose other than to look mental?

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Originally Posted by miqokini

Hold on one second. It is confirmed that jumping is cosmetic only?

..../extremefacepalm

How incredibly LAME is that? So what you are telling me, is that if I am approaching a 2-3 foot cliff that I can't walk up, if I try to jump it my character will just hit an invisible wall?

God damn.

That went in the completely wrong direction with this. I was hoping jumping would be Zelda style, where you can only jump in places where you would have to. I was AT LEAST hoping if they went with mainstream jump wherever the fuck you want, that it would have PURPOSE.

So what you're telling me is there are going to be moronic jumping beans all over the place, and their jumping will never ever serve any purpose other than to look mental?

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Ooops, I think you just caught the tail end of this conversation. Jumping when it comes out in 2.0 won't be cosmetic only as they'll have redesigned all the maps for it. If they added jumping prior to 2.0 then it would be purely a cosmetic thing.

Hehe... I kind of thought that might be the case after I was done raging... ^^;

Thank you for clarifying. All is well now. :P

Please help me SE... I cannot resist the urge to press that big red fictional Jump button anymore

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

...I really don't see the point of a cosmetic only jump. I don't know about you, but when I jog down the street, I do stay pretty stuck to the ground. I don't get a sudden urge to jump randomly. Maybe I'll skip if I'm feeling REALLY happy that day, but I never just randomly jump.

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Actually, when I walked down a slope once I wanted to double-tap jump so I could spread my wings and glide down the rest of the way... IRL, true story.

NO thanks !

I want jump but I don't want jump like this, I would rather they didn't bother and put their resources into more important issues.

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Originally Posted by Kibo

Actually, when I walked down a slope once I wanted to double-tap jump so I could spread my wings and glide down the rest of the way... IRL, true story.

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You've been playing Aion? ^^