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    Short Term Solution: Client-Side Only Jumping until Server Fixed

    Since everyone (everyone important, at least!) wants Jump, and there are issues with the server, why not add Client side jumping for now?

    If Jumping is cosmetic only, as in it doesn't give you access to new areas, why not let us jump and see it only on our computer for now.

    This does 2 things:
    Lets us feel like we're playing a game with jump

    Doesn't let other players see jump spamming


    As time goes on, and the server improves, then add it to the servers as well. The same way /display mh worked in 1.18 initially.
    It's definitely lame to have your character stuck on the ground
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    If Jumping is cosmetic only, as in it doesn't give you access to new areas, why not let us jump and see it only on our computer for now.
    Which begs the obvious question... why?

    The servers aren't going to slowly transition, they're being replaced.
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    The problem with the jump as it currently is in development is because they are not satisfied with the animation and height. Why would they want to add a cosmetic only jump with an animation they aren't happy with?

    Perfect the code before pushing it to live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djeserit View Post
    The problem with the jump as it currently is in development is because they are not satisfied with the animation and height. Why would they want to add a cosmetic only jump with an animation they aren't happy with?

    Perfect the code before pushing it to live.
    +1, what Djeserit said. The only reason to add a cosmetic-only jump into the game at this point is so people can spam jumping as they walk around. As it servers little other functional purpose until the maps get updated to make use of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djeserit View Post
    The problem with the jump as it currently is in development is because they are not satisfied with the animation and height. Why would they want to add a cosmetic only jump with an animation they aren't happy with?

    Perfect the code before pushing it to live.
    Because "the important people" want it, and feel they absolutely must have it, apparently.

    It's the typical spoiled brat mentality isn't it?

    People weren't sure if jump was being implemented or not for a while. Even though the road map updates had specifically stated, and Bayohne had hinted in a thread that, yes.. it would be added, people still didn't "get it".

    So now it's been confirmed - again - during a live letter update.

    Not even a couple days later, we already have someone saying "But why can't I have it noooow? I want to be able to jump nooooooooow."

    It seems all SE announcing or confirming something accomplishes is to open up a new can of worms for people to start complaining about; it's "not doing enough", "they're not doing right", "they're not doing correctly", "they're not doing it soon enough", etc. etc. etc. I swear, I think the MMO genre has the most unappreciative, overly self-entitled people in it of any I've ever experienced.

    I think I'm going to start calling these people Veruca Salts. In fact, Charlie's reaction at the beginning is pretty much spot-on to what I'm thinking when I see yet another thread like this one.
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    Last edited by Preypacer; 11-04-2011 at 08:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    I think I'm going to start calling these people Veruca Salts.
    I think I may have to join you in doing that!

    As far as the entitlement.... I honestly think it's a product of the monthly sub. Apparently 2 hours worth of minimum wage is a lot of money for 672-744 hours worth of entertainment potential.

    Comparatively, spending $60 for a console game (40 hours or so for a good game) is a horrible investment...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djeserit View Post
    I think I may have to join you in doing that!

    As far as the entitlement.... I honestly think it's a product of the monthly sub. Apparently 2 hours worth of minimum wage is a lot of money for 672-744 hours worth of entertainment potential.

    Comparatively, spending $60 for a console game (40 hours or so for a good game) is a horrible investment...
    Good point, and I agree where the value is concerned.

    Though, I don't even think the sub has anything to do with it. People do the same thing in F2P MMOs. The self-entitled, impatient and spoiled behavior isn't limited to FFXIV by any means.

    They want what they want, when they want it, how they want it... because they want it. And if they don't get it, then "the devs are clueless", "don't know what they're doing", "are too slow", etc. etc. etc.

    Yep... Veruca Salts, every one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    I think I'm going to start calling these people Veruca Salts
    When you mentioned Veruca Salt, I immediately thought of this video by Veruca Salt because of all the spam jumping they do...
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    ...I really don't see the point of a cosmetic only jump. I don't know about you, but when I jog down the street, I do stay pretty stuck to the ground. I don't get a sudden urge to jump randomly. Maybe I'll skip if I'm feeling REALLY happy that day, but I never just randomly jump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    ...I really don't see the point of a cosmetic only jump. I don't know about you, but when I jog down the street, I do stay pretty stuck to the ground. I don't get a sudden urge to jump randomly. Maybe I'll skip if I'm feeling REALLY happy that day, but I never just randomly jump.
    Actually, when I walked down a slope once I wanted to double-tap jump so I could spread my wings and glide down the rest of the way... IRL, true story.
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