you win rng the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak

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07-02-2016, 02:01 AM
papichulo123

you win rng the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak

i give up trying to get the loot i want from weeping city im just running it one more time and getting whatever
07-02-2016, 02:03 AM
Azrael

I guess it's time to change your main then.
07-02-2016, 02:06 AM
bass9020

Is this thread really needed? This adds nothing to the general forums to discuss. RNG is RNG you win sometimes and lose others, its all a chance.
07-02-2016, 02:22 AM
ToasterMan

You want some RNG? Try blowing around 4 million trying to pentamelding all of your crafting gear. And I was lucky with it.
07-02-2016, 03:00 AM
bounddreamer

I didn't get the tank pants I was after until this week. That was two wasted weeks of loot for me. It happens. We whine about it to our friends and move on, you. Everyone is in the same boat.
07-02-2016, 03:35 AM
FoxyAreku

I did weeping city for over 12 hours yesterday since it was my day off to get my gd pants, basically got on my hands and knees and begged the other healer to not need on them when they FINALLY dropped. My sanity was at its end, but thanks to them I got it! Now I'm done with loot from that place and will just need on things for alts when I do my weekly token run and it feels good.

Never give up.
07-02-2016, 04:21 AM
Zigabar

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Originally Posted by ToasterMan

You want some RNG? Try blowing around 4 million trying to pentamelding all of your crafting gear. And I was lucky with it.

So much this. So far I've spent 3+ mil worth of materia trying to pentameld 4 accessories. Not done yet, just ran out of materia and haven't had a chance to farm more.
07-02-2016, 05:06 AM
Welsper59

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Originally Posted by Zigabar

So much this. So far I've spent 3+ mil worth of materia trying to pentameld 4 accessories. Not done yet, just ran out of materia and haven't had a chance to farm more.

I used to do that, but that was when the extra stats from the pentameld REALLY helped or outright made certain actions too RNG without it (like macroing certain rotations). Right now, unless you're trying to min/max for completion sake or want to save some gil by using lower tier materia throughout, you really don't need to do it. IW gear really does make pentamelding unnecessary, albeit quad is still certainly a thing lol.
07-02-2016, 05:40 AM
ToasterMan

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

I used to do that, but that was when the extra stats from the pentameld REALLY helped or outright made certain actions too RNG without it (like macroing certain rotations). Right now, unless you're trying to min/max for completion sake or want to save some gil by using lower tier materia throughout, you really don't need to do it. IW gear really does make pentamelding unnecessary, albeit quad is still certainly a thing lol.

It's likely that you'll have to do it so you can meet the stat requirements for the 4 Star recipes that haven't arrived yet.
07-02-2016, 05:59 AM
Zigabar

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

I used to do that, but that was when the extra stats from the pentameld REALLY helped or outright made certain actions too RNG without it (like macroing certain rotations). Right now, unless you're trying to min/max for completion sake or want to save some gil by using lower tier materia throughout, you really don't need to do it. IW gear really does make pentamelding unnecessary, albeit quad is still certainly a thing lol.

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Originally Posted by ToasterMan

It's likely that you'll have to do it so you can meet the stat requirements for the 4 Star recipes that haven't arrived yet.

^ Preparing for 4* now means I don't have to rush later.
07-02-2016, 06:00 AM
UltimateAoe2

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Originally Posted by bass9020

Is this thread really needed? This adds nothing to the general forums to discuss. RNG is RNG you win sometimes and lose others, its all a chance.

If you knew the OP, he makes numerous threads asking very simple questions that can be answered in his FC.
07-02-2016, 06:03 AM
FabricioRF

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-up-im-leaving

Weren't you leaving?
07-02-2016, 06:07 AM
Welsper59

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Originally Posted by ToasterMan

It's likely that you'll have to do it so you can meet the stat requirements for the 4 Star recipes that haven't arrived yet.

I suppose, but where we are right now is pretty damn high if you just triple or quad meld accessories (using V materia for at least the guaranteed slots, ideally). You'd only really be a few stats off cap for each accessory, which while added up in total is a decent number (total of maybe 10 or so for each stat of craft/control and maybe up to 6 CP off), I'd think there would be some leeway when 4-star hits the scene. Short of them requiring best melds for MH/OH i195 stuff to hit the future 4-star minimum, I can't really see the need for penta on accessories with how the gear is now being a thing.

I'd imagine most people aren't going to really bother trying to get whatever maxes they can with MH/OH yet though, given the uncertainty and huge cap ranges between them, until 4-star hits the scene anyway. Like we can be significantly above minimum for current upper 3-star without accessory pentas, which would mean that 4-star reqs would be insanely high if we had to min/max every single thing lol. Given where we are, I would think that quads is enough for accessories (as long as you're at least near capping each stat), combined with their likely expectation of having at least the i200 MH and maybe some high tier melds into the i195 OH. Having the i195 MH would make things all the more easier (though costly) to hit, in that situation. Then again, this is all speculation. They could always be unnecessarily cruel about it and require perfect melds and direction, in the case of MH/OH lol.

Just as a side note: Maxing, or at least nearly maxing out, the main 5 armor slots is simple enough though, so I'm not really gonna be counting those.

Edit: Mind you, I'm not saying that people SHOULDN'T do it, just that given the values, it doesn't seem too likely to be a requirement later if you're going to be making up for it with the MH/OH melding. That for now, it seems to be more for the completion and satisfaction of penta melding than anything that'll be sensibly required.
07-02-2016, 06:33 AM
Zigabar

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

Snip for post limit.

I get what you're saying, and it makes enough sense, but my original post said "worth of materia", as in, I'm not out there spending millions on materia. I have quite a bit of free time as a crafter/non-raider between now and 3.4, so why not max out my accessories with materia I'm getting through SBing and airships? It certainly helps now with adjusting rotations to have less RNG and will help with hitting the minimum stats when 3.4 comes around. Plus, these are likely the accessories we're going to have til the end of 3.x, so I'm not really losing anything (technically time, but I don't consider this a "loss", personally) by pentamelding them.
07-02-2016, 06:37 AM
ToasterMan

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Originally Posted by Zigabar

^ Preparing for 4* now means I don't have to rush later.

Yeah and I hope we didn't have to use a bunch of teir 5's because I only used one tier 5 on my belt. rest of it was all tier 4's
07-02-2016, 07:00 AM
Welsper59

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Originally Posted by Zigabar

I get what you're saying, and it makes enough sense, but my original post said "worth of materia", as in, I'm not out there spending millions on materia. I have quite a bit of free time as a crafter/non-raider between now and 3.4, so why not max out my accessories with materia I'm getting through SBing and airships? It certainly helps now with adjusting rotations to have less RNG and will help with hitting the minimum stats when 3.4 comes around. Plus, these are likely the accessories we're going to have til the end of 3.x, so I'm not really losing anything (technically time, but I don't consider this a "loss", personally) by pentamelding them.

Gotcha and true dat. "Fail" text masochists forever lol... /cry