Hey everyone, I was about to reply in a thread we have here but didn't feel to go off-topic but to focus on three key points.
And yes, lurking mode is off for a while now.
Before you start reading, I love Final Fantasy -and- Final Fantasy online, been a FF player and fan since FF6 (yeah, I am 29-years old now), so everything I've wrote in this topic are for the better, these are my wishes in order to get the game a better place for all the Final Fantasy fans.
FFXIV, in my opinion, has three big issues;
a) The music. Soken is great composer and the game has some special tracks around I liked as well but it means nothing when it comes to Final Fantasy and this is not a random MMORPG, but a Final Fantasy online. The gap with Uematsu/Mizuta and their 1.0 OST is too big, it's time the 'Enix' people get their distance from the game and those who are still J-RPG (and MMORPG, considering how FFXI was good back in time) masters come back, like Kobouto and Tanaka (maybe close to Yoshi-P), entering the stage once again.
Wasting in this way one of the greatest gift Squaresoft and Square-Enix had/has for so long is, sincerely, sad. If there's a way they can easily kick Blizzard's ass when it comes to MMORPGs, it's the music by Uematsu and Mizuta.
b) The patterns. Being zombies when it comes to creativity (they should learn from the original FFXI team and even the 14 1.0 which didn't give a fuck about post WoW MMORPGs and failed just because it wasn't ready enough on the servers/UI side). The tomestone system, the mog tribes system: those are by far the game's pillars and it's very, very bad.
c) The gear and the rewards. The gear scenario is extremely flat; we have no legendary items and everything can be obtained with few days of grind by everyone. FFXI had relics and mythics, a huge quest for both of them where only few people on the servers were able to actually get the latest update (pre Abyssea); a mix of dedication, skill and community work (this is a MMORPG and I am all for killing solo rewards). The only true reward which fits this logic is -one- weapon drop in the latest raid turn which is gonna be deprecated in few months as soon as the casual patch comes out.
We had the cursed system in FFXI which required top crafters, we had dynamis, we had Nyzul and we had ways more than spamming tomestones every week.
We had already few threads about gameplay limitations such trading gils and the retainer' system (I miss bazaars so much!), so it's gonna be nice if we don't go off-topic.
*This is a player's PoV, so I don't care about numbers at all. FFXIV 2.0 has a large community but also unstable, above 50% of the players come back just for a new patch. On the other hand, FFXI had a very stable one and true fans who, like me, are still hoping things gonna reverse in the 'Squaresoft' way we were used to. Which is not old at all on my eyes (creativity and talent will never get old), but simply better.
Future wishes: another way of seeing things.
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07-02-2016, 01:05 AMFumijj_GahFuture wishes: another way of seeing things.
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07-02-2016, 01:12 AMShamo_LomenzoIf I had to flame one person EVER it would be this person because of this reason. The music in this game is fantastic imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fumijj_Gah
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07-02-2016, 01:18 AMGreedalox
This games music is wonderful ;_;
Not all of XI's music was amazing, it had its duds IMO. It also had good stuff like Zi'Tah. I had to turn off my speakers whenever I went to San d'Oria -
07-02-2016, 01:20 AMFumijj_GahI was expecting this; around 20% of FFXIV: ARR music are still old tracks by Uematsu (see the wedding one, the Hullbreak Isle one and yeah, 'Dragonsong' and 'Answer'). I am pretty sure lot of us don't know this. So I am going to make sure they do now if they ever care/asking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shamo_Lomenzo
This is Uematsu in FFXIV 1.0 and 2.0+;
Dragonsong (2.0 a single track, I am hoping for the -whole- soundtrack if we want to talk about 4.0 and the next expansion)
Answer (1.0 + FCOB T13's theme)
and ways more, legendary tracks such 'On windy Meadows' or "Twilight over Thanalan" won't be forgotten. -
07-02-2016, 01:20 AMAzraelTrue some music are good but not exceptional.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shamo_Lomenzo
If you'd listen to the FFXI soundtrack you would know what Uematsu and Mizuta are capable of, every music is a masterpiece and i'm not sure why they decided to change the composer for the 2.0 and on.
(except for the main themes, that in fact everyone loves)
San D'oria and Windurst were great in my opinion. Zi'tah was lovely, same for ronfaure, Mhaura, kazham, jungle, Tu'lia, and a lot of other places.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greedalox
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07-02-2016, 01:23 AMValkyrie_Lenneth
Sorry, but the coil themes are my favorite, and are vastly superior to anything that came from 1.0.
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07-02-2016, 01:29 AMFumijj_GahThen we have a reaaaaally different way of seeing things. Tastes, I suppose, which I respect even if I can't see how the boring coil tracks can be some way close to masterpieces like Answers or On Windy Meadows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
And I mean it.
Seems I didn't fail the thread's title.
Unless you mean 'Answer' itself when it comes to coil themes, ahah, which is again the FFXIV 1.0 main theme. -
07-02-2016, 01:37 AMValkyrie_LennethNope, nor do i mean the t9 theme. Most of the city themes from 1.0 are ok, but i prefer the 2.0 varients that soken composed. I have all of the OST's, and I listen to the newer ones far more than the old 1.0 set.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fumijj_Gah
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07-02-2016, 01:38 AMFumijj_GahThat's legit then; I can't argue this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
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07-02-2016, 01:40 AMMoomba33
I don't agree with this topic.
1. I love this game's music. I definitely agree with the poster who mentioned Coil's music, those are some of my favourite themes in FF.
Uematsu is a solid composer but he has his share of themes I don't care for. I really don't like how his fans are often dismissive of the contributions of other composers to the series.
2. I don't understand the hate for patterns honestly. I like dungeons, I like beast tribes, I like getting more side story quests each patch, ect.
New content is always welcome but it doesn't always work out (I do hope SE is able to revamp Diadem into something fun).
3. Accessibility of equipment and few rare exclusives is a good thing as far as I'm concerned.
Overall I like this game the way it is and don't want to see it revamped to be more like XI. -
07-02-2016, 01:50 AMAzraelWell I would. As far as I remember JRPGs and MMORPGs aside from the story, were always about getting stronger and stronger and obtaining rare pieces of gear beating interesting bosses with a real sense of progression.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moomba33
I don't know, sometimes I think I'm too old for this kind of game or that I'm one of the few that liked the real sense of accomplishment. I can't see how working months to cap gear that will be replaced after 1 month can make people happy and satisfy them, might aswell quit 1 year come back and be on par in with other players that played forever, by just spamming some experts. -
07-02-2016, 01:50 AMFumijj_GahOh I don't, actually my favourite composer is Hitoshi Sakimoto (FFT, FFXII, Vagran Story).Quote:
Originally Posted by Moomba33
But I do love Yasunori Mitsuda as well (I'll never forget the Xenogears' OST, which is actually my favourite game of all time along with FF9) and Naoshi Mizuta who did a great job with FFXI, imho.
But between the Final Fantasy' saga and Soken there's a huge gap. Those are not the vibes I am used to (I want to), I don't know if you get it.
I don't see any of those working in the long run anymore; a revamp of Diadem should be cool, actually it was the only interesting thing happened since 2.0 but due rewards and various issues it didn't go far.Quote:
2. I don't understand the hate for patterns honestly. I like dungeons, I like beast tribes, I like getting more side story quests each patch, ect.
New content is always welcome but it doesn't always work out (I do hope SE is able to revamp Diadem into something fun).
Oh I am not with you here; those elite gearset are a must in MMORPGs imho, they just -add- something to the game and it's not a replacement for casual gear like the actual lore/towers related stuff.5Quote:
3. Accessibility of equipment and few rare exclusives is a good thing as far as I'm concerned.
Overall I like this game the way it is and don't want to see it revamped to be more like XI.