Cap increase in 1.21

Q: Will the level cap be removed before the release of 2.0?
A: This is not planned until patch 1.21. It won’t be good to have a huge gap in players’ level until 2.0 goes live, so we would like to carefully weigh our options.

Did Yoshida pretty much confirm we are getting a cap increase before 2.0?

How large of a cap increase should it be? 5 levels? 10 levels? More? Will there be additional class quests? Will we see that level 52 mission, or has it been abandoned?

as long as it comes with leves at rank 50 finally.

It's not confirmed, it's something they're looking into. Though for people that go through the dats, they say they're been adding quie a few level 55 quests and stuff. So we will see.

I'd say that's a poor translation. I simply think they won't start planning about it until after 1.21

If they add the increased level-cap (which I'm all for), they should at least balance the leveling curb. Easy-to-hard instead of hard-to-easy-to-hard

the translation is ambiguous at best. At first he says 1.21 will have the level increase and then he says its not good to increase the level cap until 2.0..... Is this a translation issue or was he unsure what they are doing about it.

Man if they add 10 levels that's going to be a LOT of exp to get 50 jobs to 60. Crafting jobs *shudder*.

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Originally Posted by Ganvire

If they add the increased level-cap (which I'm all for), they should at least balance the leveling curb. Easy-to-hard instead of hard-to-easy-to-hard

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You mean Hard-to-easy-to-super-stupidly-insanely-easy

Getting from 40-50 (which is almost 50% of the fking curve) can be done while having a shower. (If you take an 2 hour long shower).

I guess there's a lot of soon-to-be-obsolete content in old Eorzea we can only experience at higher levels, so it only makes sense if they up the cap slightly.

Haha, yeah, getting a DoM/DoW to 60 at this point wouldn't be -that- bad; getting a DoL or, Twelve help you, a DoH from 50 to 60, though... /comfort.

It'll happen eventually, I'm sure! (And this might tie in with their desire to see the 1.19-1.22 content able to be completed by everyone before 2.0 comes out; doing the Ifrit fight at L60 would make it considerably more easymode, I imagine.)

I hope there isn't a level cap increase until 2.0...

Have you seen level 55 quests added in the dats, viion?

Level 55 at 1.21 will be good timing imo.

If 1.21 is slotted for February 2012 then that would keep people busy until 2.0.
Level 55 could come with JSE quests, Level 50 Camps like Blue Fog, Grade 6 trees, fishing and mining points, main story line completion, Garuda fight at Level 55, beast men strongholds, ect ect.

Im all for it. Five levels won't hurt the game.

I'm for 50 cap until 2.0

But I trust Yoshi-P has a good plan for this.

Cap raise to 55 please, I'm sick of being 50...

Cap increase is meh, im only for it as i can go where the hi mobs are more then..

As for Dungeons/Endgame : Why the F'ing hell don't just have mobs @ the level of the players doing it, So old content is still usable content just the rewards are meh compared to higher level new stuff an so on.

I have never understood why devs don't just scale mobs to the players to keep things hard or at least semi hard.
with low level dungeons having a cap so people can get run though if they want too.

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Originally Posted by quantumsaint

Q: Will the level cap be removed before the release of 2.0?
A: This is not planned until patch 1.21. It won’t be good to have a huge gap in players’ level until 2.0 goes live, so we would like to carefully weigh our options.

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I fully understand this. And I am fine with no-cap increasing till 2.0.

i think he ment he would rather not increase cap till 2.0. but if they really have to it won't be till after 1.21. 1.23 is after 1.21. i don't expect it any time soon.

but then again i expected con to get blackmage so . . . .

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Originally Posted by Synthesis

I fully understand this. And I am fine with no-cap increasing till 2.0.

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I agree.

My vote is for "No Level Cap Increase until 2.0" also.

If you think about it, Square is struggling to barely get us meaningful content for our current Rank 50 (we have Dzemael Darkhold, an Ifrit Battle, and Beastmen Strongholds).

Rushing to raise the Level Cap to, say, Rank 60 with not enough content for Rank 50's, let alone creating a bunch of new meaningful content for Rank 60 is a bit hasty.

Yoshida-san has said he felt there should've be a few Raid / Dungeons for R50 (not just 1) and that the current situation (just 1 Dzemael) is them creating what they can from a starting point with no Raids at all.

Personally, I'd favor a cap increase, even now. Too much of the world is walled off by high-level monsters and many players already have multiple classes at 50. Plus if they added a steep xp curve from 50-60 it would silence all those people wanting a xp nerf. Raising the cap raises the amount of available camps, as well. Then we might get some use out of some of the unused nodes we have right now.

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Originally Posted by Kiara

I agree.

My vote is for "No Level Cap Increase until 2.0" also.

If you think about it, Square is struggling to barely get us meaningful content for our current Rank 50 (we have Dzemael Darkhold, an Ifrit Battle, and Beastmen Strongholds).

Rushing to raise the Level Cap to, say, Rank 60 with not enough content for Rank 50's, let alone creating a bunch of new meaningful content for Rank 60 is a bit hasty.

Yoshida-san has said he felt there should've be a few Raid / Dungeons for R50 (not just 1) and that the current situation (just 1 Dzemael) is them creating what they can from a starting point with no Raids at all.

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They are strugging for content because everyone is already at cap. Increasing the lvl cap will give everyone with lots of classes at cap things to do and with 50-51 being 110k TNL its gonna be a while.

I say its actually a great time to rasie the cap 10 lvls when they add jobs.

im all for a cap increase it soun ds good but only after they add some content for current cap

Rank 50 leves they test that months ago but i guess we see if they ever add them anything time soon.

Meh, cap increase is pointless right now. Just keep the primals coming.

All for an increase, 10 levels I'd be fine with, hell I'd be fine with 25. Especially if they bring in a good amount of things that have to do with Jobs, story, leve's (yuck) and other things. Then again I'm also for a Level sync feature (DO IT!)

Also, if they give us new cap increase. I want all of the armor to be new. I am so sick of recycled armor. Especially all the scale mail, pisses me off so much. AT least change a thing or two about it, don't just recolor. smh

Rein had a different translation:-

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F: next is last question - before the 2.0 release is there plans to release cap
Y: at 1.21 there are no plans sicne we are including job but after that up till 2.0 release we will look into this carefully but generally up till 1.21 there is nothing.

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This sounds more likely to me.

it would be dumb to raise cap before 2.0 then everyone will hit cap again and be bored till 2.0.

they should just wait till the game is finsh before adding things like that.

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Originally Posted by Ganvire

If they add the increased level-cap (which I'm all for), they should at least balance the leveling curb. Easy-to-hard instead of hard-to-easy-to-hard

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THANK YOU.
Im replaying the current game and im finding that starting off from level 1 post 1.19 is very difficult. now that my Marauder is 28 im finding things to die a lot quicker and i can essential rape 3 maybe 4 field mobs 3 levels above me.
I did not have fun dying a thousand times fighting mobs my own level when my MRD was level 10

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Originally Posted by Esk

Cap increase is meh, im only for it as i can go where the hi mobs are more then..

As for Dungeons/Endgame : Why the F'ing hell don't just have mobs @ the level of the players doing it, So old content is still usable content just the rewards are meh compared to higher level new stuff an so on.

I have never understood why devs don't just scale mobs to the players to keep things hard or at least semi hard.
with low level dungeons having a cap so people can get run though if they want too.

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Not sure if this is big, but I can't help but agree with this post. All dungeons and instances should be automatically scaled to the user's level or highest-user's level by default at the very least since it'd certainly keep content fresh longer than otherwise (but without granting exp above a certain level, as well); at least, unless a dungeon/instance gets a level cap.

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Originally Posted by DNO

They are strugging for content because everyone is already at cap. Increasing the lvl cap will give everyone with lots of classes at cap things to do and with 50-51 being 110k TNL its gonna be a while.

I say its actually a great time to rasie the cap 10 lvls when they add jobs.

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it will takes a week max if you are lazy to get a class 50-60 with amount of exp from stronghold gave lol

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Originally Posted by quantumsaint

Q: Will the level cap be removed before the release of 2.0?
A: This is not planned until patch 1.21. It won’t be good to have a huge gap in players’ level until 2.0 goes live, so we would like to carefully weigh our options.

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Hint over there!