Is this "Playing As Intended"?

http://i63.tinypic.com/t7bamx.jpg

An entire mode of play is inaccessible to a lot of players (this is during prime time on Primal btw)

I understand GCs have a lot of do with is, but unfortunately I'm stuck with this for another 7 days?!? I have been able to play maybe 6 or 7 matches in the past week due to these ridiculous queues.

SE remains silent! Can't you even acknowledge this is problem?

Right now Flames is reported to have the best queue times for frontlines. Last night players in my feast ls were reporting 9 min queues as flames. Maelstrom is unbearably overpopulated again because of the win rate. Adder also seems to win at a decent rate so their queues are likely crap as well.

Isn't it sad how your average wait time is expected to be 26 minutes? :(

I don't know any other games where you actually wait 10+ minutes to play or maybe I don't bother in the first place.

Its sad that SE is okay with this.

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Originally Posted by MihaelB

Isn't it sad how your average wait time is expected to be 26 minutes? :(

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Average Wait Time for PvP queues is calculated in some way that makes it effectively uninformative and misleading.

As Aether Flames, '25 minutes' usually meant '45 minutes' (or more). As Aether Adders, I see 'More than 30 Minutes' when I queue up, and my queue pops within about 8-15 minutes on average (a 'long' outlier would be 20-25 minutes).

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Originally Posted by Chevronone

Its sad that SE is okay with this.

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To be fair, if you asked Yoshida point blank, "Are you okay with this?", I doubt he is. He wants players to enjoy their time in FFXIV.

Resolving it is probably not as simple as we want it to be, though, especially since the three JP Datacenters don't have the same issues (so any fix for NA/EU would also have to avoid breaking or mangling the functioning JP system).

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Originally Posted by Dimitrii

Right now Flames is reported to have the best queue times for frontlines. Last night players in my feast ls were reporting 9 min queues as flames. Maelstrom is unbearably overpopulated again because of the win rate. Adder also seems to win at a decent rate so their queues are likely crap as well.

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Depends on the datacenter you are on. On Aether, Flames are overloaded and queue times are 60+ minutes.

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Originally Posted by Dimitrii

Right now Flames is reported to have the best queue times for frontlines. Last night players in my feast ls were reporting 9 min queues as flames. Maelstrom is unbearably overpopulated again because of the win rate. Adder also seems to win at a decent rate so their queues are likely crap as well.

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Usually the highest you'll get as Primal Adders is around 30 mins. If it's higher than that it's simply that there aren't enough players queuing. Often it's around 10 to 20 minutes. It's nowhere as bad as that screenshot.

I wish I was exaggerating, but I have literally been in queue for almost 3hrs.

Granted Im doing other things like crafting just see if this pops before I log. Lol

Duty finder is hilarious sometimes.

This is me on an alt waiting for uh, world of darkness I think, awhile back
https://i.gyazo.com/05cd88436f65e666...17dadc386d.jpg

This one is for frontlines maybe a week after shatter was introduced
https://i.gyazo.com/2de1a01547c72121...346e4ac1d8.png

I think FL queues have gotten better the last week or so, tho

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Originally Posted by Dimitrii

Right now Flames is reported to have the best queue times for frontlines.

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If that's true, then this issue is worse than ever before, because my queue time tonight for Flames was 40+ minutes a match. I only got to play two rounds in about 3 hours. We won both, mind you, so I guess the waiting paid off, but it was pretty unbearable...

It's really disappointing. I think I have an idea what's happening, possibly a few pre-mades running in the same gc I am currently in which locks out pretty much everyone else in that GC.

The worst part is, I have 6 more days left on this punishment - I mean CD - before I swap back.

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Originally Posted by Chevronone

I wish I was exaggerating, but I have literally been in queue for almost 3hrs.

Granted Im doing other things like crafting just see if this pops before I log. Lol

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That was my PvP life as Aether Flames. I spent more time Crafting or tabbed out than actually practicing PvP, and sometimes I would have to just give up after 60 minutes or 2+ hours with no pop.

As another point about the near-useless Average Wait Time: for my Roulette today, I was promised 'More than 30 minutes'. A fresh match popped 5 minutes 47 seconds later. This is normal since I switched to an unpopular GC. I think the queue really does gather pop times for all 3 GCs and average them into a useless Average Time.

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Originally Posted by Dimitrii

Right now Flames is reported to have the best queue times for frontlines. Last night players in my feast ls were reporting 9 min queues as flames. Maelstrom is unbearably overpopulated again because of the win rate. Adder also seems to win at a decent rate so their queues are likely crap as well.

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True, when I was on Primal I was Flames, and ques were less than 5 mins. lol (but they have no teamwork most of the time)

yeah I miss pvp...seal ques for flames are the worst atm, they started working again but they take 2-3 hours and I have just not felt like waiting that long for a 10-15 minute match.

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Originally Posted by Eorzean_username

Resolving it is probably not as simple as we want it to be, though, especially since the three JP Datacenters don't have the same issues (so any fix for NA/EU would also have to avoid breaking or mangling the functioning JP system).

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Lets not get into to many issues with the Duty Finder and Lore and crap. Lets go with the simple first in que first into match. That should be coded into the very system. Which we all know is not how it works.

If you have built a sub par system you should be making every effort in other ways. Which is also not a solution they have embraced. Two things make me really mad defending the lack of effort to try to sort out pvp and housing. We have know about these issues for two years. Two years and we have one fix to que, the not needing a full party to enter. That is not effort.

PvP through Roulette is always longer because you can be placed in a dead que with some newbie who wanted to try Secure for the first time. Also it may be bugged, sometimes after 30 minutes I reset Roulette (which has in-progress checked), que directly to Shatter and get an instant in-progress pop. The best time for Roulette is if you get a few Shatter matches back to back, then Roulette can be an almost instant pop for the next match.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

PvP through Roulette is always longer because you can be placed in a dead que with some newbie who wanted to try Secure for the first time. Also it may be bugged, sometimes after 30 minutes I reset Roulette (which has in-progress checked), que directly to Shatter and get an instant in-progress pop. The best time for Roulette is if you get a few Shatter matches back to back, then Roulette can be an almost instant pop for the next match.

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I concur.

I like the idea of a PvP roulette for the sake of variety, but I know with certainty that it doesn't work and is broken. I can't count how many times I've queued up in the roulette, waited for an hour or more, then swapped over to direct queue and got in a match in under 5 minutes. I almost never bother with it anymore. Even if it's someone wants the tome bonus, it's not even worth it because you really only need to do a couple of matches to make up that amount of tomes. You'll get them faster just direct queuing.

Only way PVP roulette works is if its the only mode players are able to queue for when trying to Frontlines. As long as you can still queue individually for each mode the PVP roulette will end up being an inefficient way of getting the bonus its supposed to give. What I wish SE could do would be to have a system like in CoD where they pool players into a lobby, split em up into teams, and then offer two modes up to vote among the lobby to determine which mode we play. This way the different maps and modes would see more use instead of this flavor of the patch system we have currently. Alas this is also much easier said then done I suppose to implement and nothing more than a pipe dream.

I just wish I could ever be sure that when I get a super long queue it's because their legitimately aren't enough players, and not because I got stuck in a glitched out queue purgatory.

http://i.imgur.com/ekzU5rE.png