About Ozma....

I am excited as all hell to see Ozma in Weeping City but at the same time given the casual nature of the content people who never have heard of of fought Ozma will not be getting a true representation of the terrifying power Ozma is known for from Final Fantasy IX. Although in context it taking 24 people to kill him technically does him justice since its extremely unlikely to kill him with a party of 4 like in FF9. My question is would it be possible for us to see Ozma again after Weeping City and fight him at his true unforgiving unrelenting terrifying power we all know and fear through Mistrals Ballad or something?

I don't know...

Geometry: the Boss, is already terrifying enough.

Even if they made an Extreme version of Ozma it'd have to be heavily modified. Somehow Lv5 Death & Lv4 Holy being cast on a party of lvl60 players wouldn't be fun.

*Fight begins*
-Ozma casts Lv5 Death-
*Everyone dies*

XD

FF9 Ozma was basically an RNG wipe-fest where the boss got multiple turns per each PC turn. It was a bad boss. Like, kinda fun in a "what, really???" way, but bad.

For being a super boss though seems kinda trivial to be put into a 24man content that is easily cleared. Plus a way they could handle Lv5 death is having a field that saps your level temporarily to 59 or such?

Ozma wasn't that bad once you got past it's first attack. Throw a tent at it; gives it all kinds of status ailments without being able to resist them. Silenced and Blinded Ozma is a joke.

Didn't even play 9 long enough so the fear isn't there, nor the interest heh

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

For being a super boss though seems kinda trivial to be put into a 24man content that is easily cleared. Plus a way they could handle Lv5 death is having a field that saps your level temporarily to 59 or such?

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It was a superboss in FFIX due to FFIX lore. FFXIV has its own lore that defines it's bosses differently.

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Originally Posted by Pison

Ozma wasn't that bad once you got past it's first attack. Throw a tent at it; gives it all kinds of status ailments without being able to resist them. Silenced and Blinded Ozma is a joke.

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Well, in order to get past his pre-emptive Doomsday attack, at least one character had to have shadow protection, otherwise it was a very short fight. In contrast to your statement, this is the easiest part of the battle. This is a scripted part of the fight, and the only non-random attack Ozma does. Coming prepared for it allowed you to begin the fight with your strongest attacks since you force Ozma to waste a turn by coming in with shadow protection.

Ozma was made so difficult that the designers added a couple of options to weaken him. There is the tent as you mentioned, and there was the dark matter, or whatever it was called that takes away his ability to absorb shadow damage. Each reduced his difficulty drastically. If you wanted the full challenge, you needed to beat him without those aids.

Preparing for the battle beforehand also could greatly weaken him, as there was also the 'friendly monsters' quest by which completing it would deactivate Ozma's Shadow absorption and thus Doomsday would no longer heal him but damage him (along with other Shadow elemental attacks), and that it also allowed the player to attack him with regular physical attacks (which he was otherwise incapable of being hit by).

Either way, this is clearly not meant to be the exact same battle, but much like the Gilgamesh battles, have similar ideas and the basic 'feel' of the fight, given FFXI and XIV are two totally different games with different battle systems and mechanics, it's not surprising. I'm just excited an FFIX boss is appearing, given FFIX is one of my favourite FF games. :)

That's just how it goes with this game, OP. But we'll know who he is and I'll also remember my FFIX guide asking me to use Playonline for help and I didn't even know what the internet was at the time! This game is played by a majority of Final Fantasy fans it's just the non-ff fan players are a little more vocal on other communities but it's okay you'll get your first few wipes to Ozma's power on day 1.

Added a like cause I'd like to see him as a Super Boss again in minstrels ballad, same place but with 8 people.

This new Ozma easily reminds me of Ramiel (Shinseiki Evangelion), it seems to take all kinds of geometric forms when the original did not, at least I don't remember it doing so!...

Ozma should do justice to his name just fine, we have around 15,000 HP while Zidane and party didn't have more 9,999 not to mention they were only four compared to the 24 that will have to fight him this time so I wouldn't worry about him being easy at all which also makes it kind of irrelevant to have him as a single boss later on but if SE decided to do so it would only be welcome!...

The new Ozma should open the battle with his original attack and kill (almost) everyone from time to time, I think he had different attack patterns!...

I can't wait to fight Ozma again!... :cool:

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Originally Posted by SigmaOZ

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I don't think that for a game of this type they can truly capture the glory that is RNG in boss form.

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

For being a super boss though seems kinda trivial to be put into a 24man content that is easily cleared. Plus a way they could handle Lv5 death is having a field that saps your level temporarily to 59 or such?

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you guys remember that first boss of world of darkness....i cant remember...doesnt he do level x spells? pretty sure itll be handled similarly

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Originally Posted by ADVSS

you guys remember that first boss of world of darkness....i cant remember...doesnt he do level x spells? pretty sure itll be handled similarly

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While true, the only real gimmick was for everyone to just leave the spell except for the person it was cast on.

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

While true, the only real gimmick was for everyone to just leave the spell except for the person it was cast on.

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yes thats true, do you really want something different? I mean how would you really do it besides the inverse (level120 death/flare/trickattack) or chuchlains best buddy move all floor death unless off the floor(maybe half the arena is instant death)? I cant really think of them doing too much beyond that, but any idea you have is appreciated

I could see them having Ozma do random level 5 Death (with randomized level -1 zones) spam, as well as have him cast doomsday (with randomized location shadow absorb fields) and possibly have him randomly become immune to physical attacks, or immune to magic attacks, or invert the damage type of everything that hits him (randomly the DPS have to stop DPSing otherwise they heal the boss... while healers have to start doing dps with their heal spells).

Make him unlike any other boss in the game and not have a fixed rotation of attacks.

I mean, if its RNG in boss form go ham with it. Can also make it so that various things throughout the raid leading up to him can disable some of his nastier stuff... though you wont know what was disabled till you actually fight him. Even then, its random.

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Originally Posted by ADVSS

yes thats true, do you really want something different? I mean how would you really do it besides the inverse (level120 death/flare/trickattack) or chuchlains best buddy move all floor death unless off the floor(maybe half the arena is instant death)? I cant really think of them doing too much beyond that, but any idea you have is appreciated

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They could always go with the A6/A8 mechanic and you'd need x number of people in the spell to disable it, or say for Level5 death you have to have a multiple of 5 in the circle.