Cheaters?

Ok this has been bugging me and a few guilds on tonberry anyways.. How does a guild with just 17 members beat a guild with 500+ members? I myself have 160+ members and we work our asses off hardly afking and always active.. And I ain\\\\\\'t just speaking for myself I\\\\\\'m also speaking for other guilds like XV, NGC, Exile etc etc are massive active guilds (in tonberry) and even those guilds are getting there asses kicked.

Am I the only one seeing this? Can someone please explain what\\\\\\'s happening?

Maybe they're just doing FATEs 24/7, or giving items to the Grand Companies to get GC seals. Check their members individually to check how much they contributed to the GC and you'll probably find!

Noo that's not it lol.. Way ahead of you on that and each of there members are barely lvl 60 and there recruitments for the guild are closed.. Hmmm and it ain't GC points I know this for a fact.

Thanks tho

... My FC is only me who active and only have around 400k fc point...

This FC is from New England? Their FC leader always looks grumpy and wears a hoody 24/7?

Um wut? Lodestone -> standings if you don't know what I'm talking about.

If your not into rankings you won't know what I'm on about as rankings change per week, And the rankings are based on how many points you gain per week not total.

On top of that if there doing fates 24/7 there obviously breaking the rules as no human has lived 24/7 being awake and stable for a week straight without going crazy or dying irl..

And this is coming from someone who plays 12-16 hours a day :/ if you don't sleep you get sick, trust me been there done that.

Still no clear explanation..

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Originally Posted by SpooonyOne

Noo that's not it lol.. Way ahead of you on that and each of there members are barely lvl 60 and there recruitments for the guild are closed.. Hmmm and it ain't GC points I know this for a fact.

Thanks tho

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not 60? closed? sounds like a lot of the bot guilds I see on Gilgamesh. They close so you cannot apply and they make their own FCs to they get left alone while they bot.

My money is on new FC, ranking up quickly with gil to buy a house when 3.3 hits.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

My money is on new FC, ranking up quickly with gil to buy a house when 3.3 hits.

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This is also true!

Keep in mind you may have 100+ members but what are you guys doing all day? I know in more of the lvl 60 FCs i've been in most people just stand around all day in the yard ( if you are lucky enough for a house ), maybe run some roulettes and log off... thats not active. You alone cannot rack up those points.

If they're not 60 yet that means they're doing story which racks up more points than anything else in the game. They have to be incredibly active to catch up in the game.

Sounds legitimate, thanks for that Youkulm! So does SE actually do anything about it? or have they just ruined this game for me.. Cause honestly I don't feel like playing anymore if robots are gonna play the game for other people.. That's the sad truth in all this.. SE make money ether way, I'm more or less afraid this games gonna be another bottling contest like XI was.. This is why I respect console players (I'm one myself) we play the game raw with no gimmicks we don't need a parser, wtfast/ping zapper to play we play the game the way the games ment to be played, and on top of that I'm an Aussie, we have no server :p I just don't see why people have to cheat at a game to "look good" let alone pay money for a game you ain't even playing.. I don't get it

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Originally Posted by Youkulm

This is also true!

Keep in mind you may have 100+ members but what are you guys doing all day? I know in more of the lvl 60 FCs i've been in most people just stand around all day in the yard ( if you are lucky enough for a house ), maybe run some roulettes and log off... thats not active. You alone cannot rack up those points.

If they're not 60 yet that means they're doing story which racks up more points than anything else in the game. They have to be incredibly active to catch up in the game.

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My first post says we hardly afk and are always active, we don't stand around we have a method that works well.. Gathers gather for crafter's, crafter's make gear/food/pots for raiders/crafter's & gatherers and raiders carry gatherers and crafter's and any other member that needs a carry within the guild. It goes full circle and works extremely well.

Sadly I don't ever see anything really done. I see the same bots running around endlessly for months. Then they'll be gone for a week.. then back with a tweaked name. ( leads me to believe they're selling the account once it hits a max level, or that they got caught and got a new account )

They could be 1 of SOOO many things. Gil farmers, account sellers, FC sellers....

It's not that the FFXIV team doesn't care.. but we've heard time and time again they do not have enough staff to handle everything they'd like to do ( and i'm sure this includes GMs for bot management and harassment reports ). SE leaves FFXIV severely understaffed, it's pretty clear FFXIV is a cash cow for them to make their other projects. I wish it wasn't true but.. oh whale

From what I've been told, with less members on at a time the more the stuff you do is worth.
Member count doesn't give a significant boost to your credits earned.

Haven't really tested it myself though, it's hard to know when many people will log out sometimes lol!

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Originally Posted by Canadane

From what I've been told, with less members on at a time the more the stuff you do is worth.
Member count doesn't give a significant boost to your credits earned.

Haven't really tested it myself though, it's hard to know when many people will log out sometimes lol!

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This is true. The less people you have on the more points you get for things.

If you're on solo, you get double everything.

Do you even get anything for being top in the rankings?

Besides, I guess, bragging rights.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

Do you even get anything for being top in the rankings?

Besides, I guess, bragging rights.

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Yeah. Seriously.

What's the big deal?

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Originally Posted by Santherelle

Yeah. Seriously.

What's the big deal?

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People just want to be the the Number One FC I guess.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

From what I've been told, with less members on at a time the more the stuff you do is worth.
Member count doesn't give a significant boost to your credits earned.

Haven't really tested it myself though, it's hard to know when many people will log out sometimes lol!

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This is true. FC with lower, but highly active number of players will outpace, if not equal larger FCs. It's SE's way of allowing small FCs to compete with large FCs. Higher rankings allow you access to FC benefits, SE doesn't want to lock out smaller family-oriented guilds from it. Although in a sense, it also gives incentive for certain wealthy crafters and players to own their own FC.

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Originally Posted by LystAP

Higher rankings allow you access to FC benefits, SE doesn't want to lock out smaller family-oriented guilds from it.

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They're not talking about rank 1-8 that give access to housing, FC buffs, etc.

They are talking about server FC rankings, listing which FC got the most FC points last week/month for the server.

I don't think there's anything other than bragging rights.
And amassing lots of credits suppose.

I feel like if there was an actual reward for this then SE would do something about it.
But just a number and a position in a chart that maybe three people look at? Nah they won't "fix" it, because it really isn't broken...

They are all lower level players, and the names do not suggest bots, probably doing quests, story missions, dungeons, together. You get more points when in groups with your FC. The FC was just formed recently. Its not cheating, but the way the system is designed.

Your FC is probably active, but the game gives more FC points to people doing quests and leveling than it does just running roulettes or crafting.

I know very well how easy it is to boost an FC up, but having looked at the FC, I'm going to say most likely bots. If not bots, they're selling accounts. Probably both.