Hi everyone. I'm new to pvp and I have to say I really enjoy it so far. :) now my question is, what do you suggest is the best class for pvp? I played as Astro but as a healer you really need a good group do defend you otherwise you get killed over and over (at least it seemed so yesterday or maybe I'm just doing smth wrong). I'm also very great full for any tips for newbies in pvp. Thanks ♡
Best PvP class?
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05-22-2016, 02:21 PMYatoShishiBest PvP class?
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05-22-2016, 04:25 PMxxczx
The best PVP class is the one you feel most comfortable with.
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05-22-2016, 07:19 PMLlynd
Best healer class : Astro
Best tank class : War
You gotta know that burst is everything in pvp. The class who got the most burst will win. ( Same for the healer, sch for that isn't that good, and whm got too much mana issues, that's why ast is so OP). -
05-22-2016, 07:27 PMDrkdays
It kinda depends on what you like to do. If you like support I hear Astro is really strong in PvP right now. If you like wading in and making a nuisance of yourself I'd recommend warrior. If you like being ignored as you kill ppls try ninja.
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05-22-2016, 11:10 PMFodemhouse
DPS: Machinist
Simple answer, most OP class in pvp no discussion. Its way above other classes, its easy to play etc...
I played as a machinist for 1 day only on a friends account, became gold... -
05-23-2016, 01:20 AMAviarsI fear mch the most, while melees are to be feared for the lb, a mch can literally burst you down within a couple of seconds more often than a lb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fodemhouse
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05-23-2016, 01:22 AMFunkYeahDragons
Healers, ranged DPS, and melee DPS are going to be focused first, so playing a tank could get you some time alone to gain experience. A team should be supporting healers where possible, but you can't really count on that.
Healing is high-pressure and takes some getting used to, but all the jobs have self-defense and AST can heal on the move. I've survived several players on me in Seal Rock on occasion. You can also survive melee LBs by focus-targeting them and watching for Raw Destruction, then using Attunement. -
05-23-2016, 03:28 AMNova_RoxHuh...AST? I find WHM to be far superior. Crazy CC and super strong heals. AST was the strongest when you could actually be interrupted, but now it's around the middle of the pack imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Llynd
Or maybe it's that all the AST I see are bandwagoners from the time AST was op in Wolves Den. I go INSANE when I see AST only kiting and spamming shields.
That being said, I've seen all jobs absolutely decimate in PvP. OP should play what he enjoys and get GREAT at it, not just good. -
05-23-2016, 03:54 AMChilla
The best PVP class is the one you're most comfortable with.
I've seen almost every class perform well in high rated PVP. -
05-23-2016, 03:55 AMKfLeX
Astros are a pain I play mnk but can manage a LB on them if I'm lucky.
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05-23-2016, 04:45 AMYatoShishi
Thanks everyone for the help. I really appreciate it. :)
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05-23-2016, 05:00 AMNalien
Dark Knight is the best, because it's the unquestionably the worst...
Experience and being able to adapt to the situation seem more important to me than a Jobs potential, nobody plays any Job perfectly all the time, so I'll mirror comments to play what you're comfortable with... I just find a guilty pleasure in winning as the Yamcha of Jobs... -
05-23-2016, 07:02 AMNessaWyvernHeheh, my FC friends went on all the "worst" classes in 4v4, most of them weren't on their mains, and they called it the "Sh*tter comp" and they were still beating people :P They had a lot of fun with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nalien
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05-31-2016, 03:44 AMSuperZayAnd a good PLD can soak any burst on a focused dps/healer with Cover, Tetsudo, 2 Clemencies and Diving Veil plus stunlocks. A burst means nothing if it can't kill anyone. I've actually lost more matches with WARs in my party than with paladins. Plus it has the ultimate defensive cooldown which is very useful during last 20 seconds when you are running with 10 stacks and everyone tries to LB you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Llynd
And DRKs... LOL. What a waste of party slot. They can do neither WAR's damage nor PLD's support/protection. -
05-31-2016, 04:04 AMFodemhouseWell... Some points:Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperZay
I tottally agree , but there are some points wich people dont think when they blame Paladins....
1) Clemency has slow cast, big MP consumption and its easily interrupted...
2) People run from cover...
3) U cant cover or clemency someone who is on the other side of the map... So if u want your paladin to stunlock healer for example, u cant instadie on the otherside of the map, cause there is nothing he can do about it... And u know how DPSs loves to Insta-Die... You blink and boom... DPS/Healer is dead... -
06-01-2016, 03:40 PMFREEHURPwhat? this does not make any sense , first of all, if PLD is covering someone, they gotta stay close to protec their target (which is the point why they covered them in the first place) if u dont, ur fucking up (unless theperson covered is really that clueless) Clemency got bufffed so its actually a HUGE CLUTCH game saver. Ive seen so many games saved by a paladins Clemency u had to not have played enough to see otherwise.Quote:
Well... Some points:
I tottally agree , but there are some points wich people dont think when they blame Paladins....
1) Clemency has slow cast, big MP consumption and its easily interrupted...
2) People run from cover...
3) U cant cover or clemency someone who is on the other side of the map... So if u want your paladin to stunlock healer for example, u cant instadie on the otherside of the map, cause there is nothing he can do about it... And u know how DPSs loves to Insta-Die... You blink and boom... DPS/Healer is dead...
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06-01-2016, 03:41 PMFREEHURP
And your talk about people being on opposite side of the map , first of all, if you are not with your team you are fkn up, thats it. Same goes to the other team. NO one should be separated unless its an rare occasion in the last minute where the melee dps is limit breaking the 10 stack tank to win the game. Other than that, your comment makes no sense.
MO PLD is by far the more superior tank if the PLD knows whats hes doing. same with WHM as the superior healer (IF) he knows what hes doing. Both jobs have a higher skill ceiling to perform at max potential.
WAR is honesty a 3rd dps with great CC like holmgang and some minor support like Thrill of Battle -
06-01-2016, 08:25 PMCherub
Afaik Clemency got a 2 second cast, the same as any single target heal any healer has. So it's pretty fast.
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06-02-2016, 02:26 PMFodemhouseExcept that Paladins dont have the cast speed of a mage... So yeah... 2 entire seconds on pvp... think about it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherub
Cover skill => U wouldnt beleive the amount of players who manage to run out of cover skill.... its insane... -
06-02-2016, 05:55 PMCherubSorry but I can't agree with Clemency. 2 seconds is fast and you make it sound as if SS stacking is actually "good" for mages. It caps so low that the GCD cut isn't even worth it. Seen plenty of healers rocking no SS build and being extremely good. 2.00 seconds or 1.98 seconds, really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fodemhouse
I am thinking about it. And the more I think about it, the more clemency gets better in my eyes. Paladins have a higher cast interruption treshold than mages do because of their naturally high HP at ilvl150 and how the system calculates that treshold. So it's less likely to get interrupted because the treshold should be actually pretty damn high.
2 entire seconds in pvp huh? Well, a bit out of context but for example, a BLM has casts that are 3 and 4 seconds long. 2 seconds is a luxury compared to that.
The only thing I'll agree with is that it has a high MP cost. Somewhat of a bummer but having the PLD be able to cast more clemency would be a real headache if he were in the enemy team. -
06-02-2016, 06:09 PMSynestraBest tank class: WARQuote:
Originally Posted by Llynd
Best dps class: WAR
Best healer class: WAR
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06-02-2016, 09:36 PMExiraBest tank class: PLDQuote:
Originally Posted by Synestra
Best dps class: MNK
Best healer class: WHM
Actually fixed....who in their right mind thinks AST is better than WHM. AST gets abused in light party