Immersion and RP

I've had some general ideas for a while now about what I would like to see most in game and I want to present them for discussion...Something I want to see in this game is more immersion and potential for RP. For example, it would be nice to see something as simple as being able to eat or read whilst seated or being able to to logout in your personal room or even having a specific animation for sitting on the beach chairs in Mist.
A potentially good possibility for RP could be "RP instances". Side story quests that give you a lot more story interaction with NPCs and other players. It could involve a lot of dialogue options or even a hot bar much like the pet action bar with emotes or scripted responses. They could be 1 to 4 person instances and the rewards could be virtually anything from exp to vanity/glamour items or minions. Combat could also be lightly mixed in with some instances. I feel like these sort of things could really help a lot of players to enjoy the game even more.

Your idea isn't something outlandish other than the fact that you're requesting niche content for what is, let's face it, the minority of players. Major problem comes in when you add rewards to it. Any mode, regardless of what its intentions are becomes virtually obligatory once rewards are added. Especially if those rewards are something exclusive like glamour.

Separate from that, honestly resources for your suggestion are better suited elsewhere in the game. If they were to put in a special dungeon just so people could "RP" in it in lieu of actually creating functional content for the majority of players, you'd have a lot of unhappy subscribers. Especially when the game is not driven towards that particular crowd. Remember that in game you as a player are creating a sub-genre of "RP-ing." Insisting that the producers of the game cater to your specific desires for niche content is relatively selfish. If there were separation in servers as there are in other games such as PvP, PvE, and RP, then I would be more inclined to say it's something worth the dedication of assets. Unfortunately that isn't the case.

SE have already staed why you can't log back inside your personal chambers or FC house, and it's because of how the game's client renders the house's interior not allowing it, so it's not going to happen I'm afraid.

As for for your other ideas, I agree with Judah, as nice as they are (and speaking as a casual RPer on Balmung myself) they're ultimately very minor additions that require a lot of resources to implement which are better spent elsewhere, so I doubt that it would ever be implemented.

Good points made. Honestly I guess I always kinda thought that little things like being able to log out in the house were things that they just simply could not get to work from a technical stand point. So while that is disappointing in a way it isn't that hard to except when you think of all the other things that are great about the game.
As for my "niche" content idea, I honestly wasn't sure if my idea could be classified as such but it does make sense. I have never seen any other players bring up such things and whether they have or not, it really does seem like there would be just far too few of us to see anything like that actually happen. Again, disappointing for me but it is what it is I suppose. If nobody's interested in it, then they're just not. Really I made this thread to see if there were any like minded players. Oh well. I know there will still be fun content either way. Who knows? There might even be some way I can find to facilitate a satisfying RP experience with what resources are available in the game already.

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Originally Posted by Judah_Brandt

Your idea isn't something outlandish other than the fact that you're requesting niche content for what is, let's face it, the minority of players. Major problem comes in when you add rewards to it. Any mode, regardless of what its intentions are becomes virtually obligatory once rewards are added. Especially if those rewards are something exclusive like glamour.

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So, uh...pretty much hardcore raiding and PvP summed up. And I'm inclined to add the gold saucer as well, since I rarely see people play anything but mini cactpot and GATEs there.

Personally...I'd settle with being given the animations we already have in the game that are used by NPCs and my own character all over the world in the overworld as well as cutscenes. Especially the ones my character already uses. The assets must already be there and fully rendered, otherwise my character couldn't do that animation, so the implementation can't be "that" hard and ressource demanding >_>

More good points made. The hard core raiding, PvP and possibly even the gold saucer are good subject matter to bring up here and I agree with the point made for sure. I might even add lords of vermilion to the list specifically. I never would have thought to add an RTS to an mmo rpg lol.
I also agree that emotes that are already widely in use could be used and that it wouldn't necessarily be that resource heavy especially if the content was not a lengthy instance. I feel like there would be ways it could be implemented on a small scale as they do many things.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

So, uh...pretty much hardcore raiding and PvP summed up. And I'm inclined to add the gold saucer as well, since I rarely see people play anything but mini cactpot and GATEs there.

Personally...I'd settle with being given the animations we already have in the game that are used by NPCs and my own character all over the world in the overworld as well as cutscenes. Especially the ones my character already uses. The assets must already be there and fully rendered, otherwise my character couldn't do that animation, so the implementation can't be "that" hard and ressource demanding >_>

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Wait wait. So your comparing existing content in the game that is tuned to be difficult to pieces of content that were generally intended for literally every player? Do you really misunderstand the intentions of the developers so much that you believe they thought the Gold Saucer would be a ghost town? Or is it because the content is disinteresting and, I dunno, the rewards are of little value. Now, your argument for having "RP Dungeons" is that because they made content that a large number of people don't actively use is that they should create more content that a large number of people don't actually use? Yeah, no. Again, role playing isn't something that the game actively encourages outside of your character being the Warrior of Light and combating the Ascians through the main story. The concept that a specific group of players who have created an imaginary community where they're all half vampire nephews of Louisoix Leveilleur doesn't justify catered content.

That aside, I think the RP icon mentioned below would be a good addition for players, since they lack dedicated servers. As for the whole dungeon thing, why don't you just gather a group of four people and go into any dungeon and screw around. No need to have special content when you literally do whatever you want regardless.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

SE have already staed why you can't log back inside your personal chambers or FC house, and it's because of how the game's client renders the house's interior not allowing it, so it's not going to happen I'm afraid.

As for for your other ideas, I agree with Judah, as nice as they are (and speaking as a casual RPer on Balmung myself) they're ultimately very minor additions that require a lot of resources to implement which are better spent elsewhere, so I doubt that it would ever be implemented.

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But we used to be able to log in and still be in the house. My FC bought a house nearly right away. Always loved logging in and being in my house still. They took it away.

It's nice that we're getting more dialogue option when talking to npcs.

Anyways, it's been requested requested before, but having a RP status icon will be nice and should be easy to implement. That way RPers will know who's currently RPing

They already added sprouts and mentor icons, so they can do this in game.

Interesting. I had no idea that use to be a thing in FC houses. I wish they could bring that function back.
I think an RP status icon could be cool and not hard to implement at all.

They won't bring back the ability to log out and stay in a house next log in. Something to do with the servers and instances.

I also wonder if there could be some useful aplications if they gave our characters the ability to swim. I've noticed that our FC house is on a beach but I never seem to see anyone doing beach things. Might be cool to be able to have your character be able to lounge in the beach chairs like you would if you were Sun bathing irl too. Really if you could just swim in water in general it could open up many possibilities for exploration at large.

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Originally Posted by Iromi

But we used to be able to log in and still be in the house. My FC bought a house nearly right away. Always loved logging in and being in my house still. They took it away.

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yeah I've said it before in other threads. I remember when we got our houses we were able to log out & log back in and still be in the house. But then people were reporting getting stuck in furniture or partitions & other stuff so SE took that feature away so you log in outside of the house & then made it to where we can run through furniture now.

I just think the whole neighborhood housing was a good idea on paper, but in reality it makes it harder to have features like that. They really should have just made instanced housing, could have been like 4 houses per "ward", then the game wouldn't have to load freakin 30 houses lol

And yet here they are, adding more housing wards and keeping this broken system instead of actually trying to make it better >_<

I recall talk of incentives for going into people's houses. I wonder what that might involve. I honestly can't think of what they could do to make that thing.