Dark Knight hate?

Oddly enough i've never experienced anything quite like what I found out today, probably me just whining or something, but rather when I was doing Singularity Reactor roulette I found myself in a rather odd party. I myself being a DRK, noticed a warrior in the party with better gear than myself so I sat back and popped Darkside ready to start the battle. But the next thing I know they're telling me to pull, of course I was just about to ask why? When a DPs pulled Thordan, so I scrambled a little out of it after having to rush at the boss. My mindset wasn't there so even when told to pop Grit I didn't, and so we played without a MT. Once we defeated the boss, the WAR player says something along the lines of: "I don't tank for edgelord Dark Knights, that only have leveled Dark to 60." What was up with that?

It was a terrible WAR player who doesn't know how to play. And a troll.

Well that may be, but is it really wrong to not want to play any other class or take the time to level them to 60? Honestly I really enjoy the way a DRK plays, and it is quite enjoyable to say the least. I know DRK is the worst of the three tanks, but... does that warrant attacking me for playing it?

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Originally Posted by Grandark

Well that may be, but is it really wrong to not want to play any other class or take the time to level them to 60? Honestly I really enjoy the way a DRK plays, and it is quite enjoyable to say the least. I know DRK is the worst of the three tanks, but... does that warrant attacking me for playing it?

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Nope. Always play what you like most. Just some loser who only cares about best class. You'll meet quite a few WAR with that mentality. "Gotta play best class, or not at all".

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Originally Posted by Ciri_Wolf

Nope. Always play what you like most. Just some loser who only cares about best class. You'll meet quite a few WAR with that mentality. "Gotta play best class, or not at all".

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Ah... I've never really met anyone like that before, so it threw me off a little. Sure i've met people that called me out when I first started, but that hasn't happened much. Sometimes I love this community and other times I really just want to quit. It's a hit or miss for sure, least the Duty Finder roulettes mean you never have to meet with people from them again... usually.

That's a good point. I've heard ff14 is more tame than most MMOs. That's pretty sad.

the topic feels more in the general discussion of the forum than a server one.

with that said. as i have switched to dark knight as my main tank. i have noticed a increase of being main tank with a warrior. off tank with a paladin. with that at times the warrior can output more damage in deliverance if played right that i have noticed. (not 100% though just assuming) so going into battles and seeing a warrior in a lvl 50 or less. you are marked off tank as warrior does not have their stance. anything past 52 though in 2 tank areas. you are considered main tank. that is just how i have experienced and perceived the roles of tanks now.

this is just my 100% opinion on the call out of what happened. after reading i was curious on your tank levels, so i looked up and see you do not have the awareness cross class. i know not everyone uses it personally as the person likes their own build to use on how it plays and feels like your own. there are actually a lot of people that only touch dark knight over all as a tank. that venue is not the greatest. with the cross class from paladin and marauder you have mitigation to help be it foresight, awareness, bloodbath. a lot of physical reductions with no crit and a heal per hit. now as i said. not everyone goes by it. though when someone sees a certain level it might come off as you might not have the skills to be main so i am going to throw you into the fire to see if you really can cope with it.

striding away from that. from what i have seen personally over all was tanks not grabbing all their cross class skills as well as healers not getting lvl 26 thaumaturge for swiftcast which is needed for a lot of content.

A lot of Warriors have that mind set just ignore them have a funny image displaying the typical Warrior player
http://i.imgur.com/Ab2W5rs.jpg

Can someone explain Edgelord to me? I have just chosen to switch to DRK from MNK for a main. I do have all classes at 60 though.

Yeah, definitely should've been placed in the Tank forum, perhaps? But I was a little unsure of where this would be placed, regardless I have to say that it was so odd being judged for playing a DRK when, in fact the person in question had Lore gear... Makes no sense for me to MT when you'd probably take the Aggro away easily or i'd have to work even harder to do that. I can Tank pretty well, still learning yeah. But I do know that the person with better gear should always MT unless you discussed it beforehand, but there was no discussion at all it was just: "Are you going to pull?" Then random DPs pulling boss.

with the new changes on. i could hold my MT stance against a warrior no problem. with a ravana 190 weapon while the person is still clocked out at 230 lore or relic weapon. just keep using your hate combo instead of the MP combo constantly. you should be able to rotate in 1-2 before going back to your hate combo as dark knight and while the warrior is in deliverance is just another DPS now that you are main tank.

with the introduction of heavensward. what people do now compared to 2.0 is really different with tank now using vitality. which is why the set up most of us seen regardless on what gear the person has.

WAR/DRK = DRK main lvl 52-60. DRK = OT 50 and below
PLD/DRK = PLD main regardless on level

if gear is indeed so heavily a gap. one is just getting off the 190 gear and the other tank is is sitting all 230 lore. then sure higher can, but if the gear is so close as a mix of 220/230 on both tank. then the above applies.


it has worked like that when the grounds of finding where dark sits went. which is how today is what it is.

Not really a huge gap in terms of ILevel, I suppose. Mostly of my gear is 210 or 200, with a couple of 230 accessories. I never have trouble holding Aggro, but alas the main thing I had a problem with was being called an Edgelord over my personal preference of playing DRK. I can definitely Tank well, and hold Hate no trouble. Hence why DA > Powerslash is part of my opening for pulls. Sets up a nice place for me to get two of my DPs combos and regen MP so that I can follow up with CS, CS is such a good move for both Aggro and Damage generation.

i would not focus to much on the word. after looking around for that word. the word "Edgelord" can be used with anyone in general. just not with dark knights. what i have found with that word. it came from 4chan. when used. it's meaning is a fat person that is into anime while living in the basement. from that context i have found. it does not aim to the dark knight at all but can be used with the general public.

just my findings. if anyone else want to chime in on it. feel free.

When I was trying out AST, I had a DPS actually curse me out for giving the damage buff to the tank on accident, so this doesn't surprise me at all. -w-

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