Bard and Barrage

How does it work?

Been spamming all my cooldowns for a while now
Except I dont use blood for blood when things get quite dangerous

But I do wanna learn more about how Bard Cooldowns works

Mostly I wanna know more about Barrage

Is Barrage best used with Empyreal Arrow? Or Sidewinder?

Should I use all my cooldowns at the start of a boss with Barrage + Empyreal Arrow
last?

Any info would be welcome
Tried to find some information, but all the info I could find was outdated :S (9 months+)

Bard hasn't changed since Heavenswards release. Any info you found from 9 months ago is still valid today.

http://angered.guildwork.com/forum/t...ide-by-krietor

Do your self a fave and get b4b your a ranges DPS so chances of you getting hit is pretty low if you play it safe and know the rotation of bosses etc.. If you can't get used to WM you should honestly change to an archer or monk, nin or dragoon.. IMO a bard who doesn't play songs is useless IMO even WP, and knowing what status effects you can remove is helpful.. Every second counts if you have exp a 1% enrage and leaving ballad on or army's on because you forgot will cause that enrage.

Straight shot before you barrage combo then follow up with a repllingshot and then an instant (I use feint) I play a weird bard and follow no guides but I still pull top DPS unless a player knows there job

Your wrong.. Sorry but WP and a few skills got there TP reduced.

Barrage only affects weaponskills. Sidewinder is an ability and thus not affected by barrage. And since (u already seem to know) empy is the weaponskill with the highest potency, you'll use Barrage with that.

So going something like this could work?

Foe > Straight shot > Bloodletter > Flamming Arrow (If needed) Venomous Bite > Windbite > Sidewinder > (If boss) pop cooldowns and Barrage + Empyreal Arrow

Then spam Heavy shot for the crit proc and Iron Jaws for the for the dot refresh and blood letter when it comes up while making sure that straight shot buff is on

If AOE Mob Barrage + Wide Volley

Always keeps Foe up and use battle voice cd for bosses while using mage ballad if healers need mana badly
Dunno about the army song because it has a damage reduction...
While spamming swiftsong after a battle ends

And off course Misery ends at the end of everything to end a mobs life in the end

Seems thats the order to do the most damage I guess? :S

Edit:

Also wanna thank the people for answering my question
Just figured out what Barrage could and it kinda blew my mind

Do not spam wide volley for aoe. Since it is the same potency as quick nock use quick nock instead. The tp used by wide volley is ludicrous.

Barrage only works for single target weaponskills. The only use for Barrage is with Empyreal Arrow.

I wouldn't sidewinder immediately after DoTs. I can't count on server putting the DoT in before sidewinder calculates damage. I've always done my barrage + emp before sidewinder just in case.

Also for AOE, unless things die super fast, it's almost always better to multidot and fish for rain of death procs. better TP, and lot of times equal or more damage.

Always use Barrage in conjunction with Empyreal Arrow, if you play your cards right you should be able to fit about 6 Empyreal Arrows between Barrage CD's, (that's assuming you use EA as soon as it comes off CD) if for whatever reason you can't use Empyreal Arrow or it's on CD and you REALLY need something dead RIGHT NOW then I'd recommend you pair it with Heavy Shot.

Though for general use, definitely Empyreal Arrow

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Originally Posted by koroko220

Do not spam wide volley for aoe. Since it is the same potency as quick nock use quick nock instead. The tp used by wide volley is ludicrous.

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There are some times where it is more useful (it covers more area) but in general quick nock is much better.

Generally the position of your barrage in the opener can vary, but it'll usually fall directly after applying your dots or as the boss is pulled. Either works fine but one reduces the potency of your overall dot dps so it's really up to preference. The basic goal is just to have all non crit increasing cds up to buff the triple emp as much as possible. In the case of your second barrage, you'd want to make sure your barrage and emp will be up before using blood for blood again since it has a slightly shorter cd than hawks and barrage.

I noticed that on a summoner their dot damage is based on their stats (Cleric stance or not)

But we can refresh both our dots with Iron Jaws
So now I'm now I'm curios if we can affect our dots with cooldowns or not

My guess is not but I'm not 100% sure on that...

Iron jaws updates the dots.
Example:
Venomous and wind are cast under raging strikes. +20%
Iron jaws refreshes it without buffs. +0% (normalized to before raging strikes.)
Iron jaws refreshes with blood for blood. +10%

Thanks for the explanation Rawrz

So it would be best to let dots buffed with cooldowns tick as long as possible before you refresh them

Never knew it worked like that..
Seems I have to keep an eye on that :P

So Foe/Flaming Arrow depending on the situation
Then Straight shot + normal dots + Sidewinder/Bloodshot then Internal Release/Blood for Blood/Hawk eye/Raging Strike/Quelling Strike (<<< List Cooldowns)
then Iron Jaws to update the dots with all the power of all the cooldowns?

Then Barrage and Empyreal Arrow

Then keep shooting bloodletter/Heavy shot while making sure you still have the buff from Straight shot
And rinse repeat?

http://angered.guildwork.com/forum/t...ide-by-krietor

This was already posted on the first page and you should take a look.

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Originally Posted by Boss_Koivula

http://angered.guildwork.com/forum/t...ide-by-krietor

This was already posted on the first page and you should take a look.

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But this is the 2.0 rotation?

Unless I'm missing something?

It looks like his 3.0 guide isn't available publicly anymore >.>

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Originally Posted by Deathgiver

It looks like his 3.0 guide isn't available publicly anymore >.>

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http://krietor.guildwork.com/forum/t...ard-bard-guide

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Originally Posted by vp_cmc

http://krietor.guildwork.com/forum/t...ard-bard-guide

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Seems legit, though I wonder why he doesn't use internal release before using windbite.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Seems legit, though I wonder why he doesn't use internal release before using windbite.

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cos it'd clip the gcd (even more)?

Because it doesn't make much of a difference. The pot is a bigger damage bonus, you're fairly limited in the number of Bloodletters you can use before your exit Jaws anyway, and the difference in your odds of getting a proc (assuming you can use it), particularly with Battle Litany active, isn't that substantial.

You can even shuffle the first skills around, put your DoTs up before you even Straight Shot, and get a small gain out of the deal. At least, that was the case with IR first then Pot, may or may not work if you're going Pot first.

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Originally Posted by Arduno

Thanks for the explanation Rawrz

So it would be best to let dots buffed with cooldowns tick as long as possible before you refresh them

Never knew it worked like that..
Seems I have to keep an eye on that :P

So Foe/Flaming Arrow depending on the situation
Then Straight shot + normal dots + Sidewinder/Bloodshot then Internal Release/Blood for Blood/Hawk eye/Raging Strike/Quelling Strike (<<< List Cooldowns)
then Iron Jaws to update the dots with all the power of all the cooldowns?

Then Barrage and Empyreal Arrow

Then keep shooting bloodletter/Heavy shot while making sure you still have the buff from Straight shot
And rinse repeat?

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To my understanding, Iron Jaws applies the effect of buffs currently active, so it's actually ideal to refresh your DoT ticks early to coincide with the moment right before your powerful buffs wear off in order to get a full, second cycle of buffed DoTs.