Leve grinding without the run

The hoarding system is great in that it allows you to plow through tons of leves at once basically turning them into repeatable quests from other MMORPGs. The thing about repeatable quests that it lacks is the convienience of the quest NPC being on location.

Instead of accepting what amounts to delivery quests from Ul'dah to turn a pile of materials into something Camp Horizon needs, the pile of junk should be at the camp already. Interacting with the crystal or NPC at Camp Horizon would then allow you to repeat the leve indefinately saving the step of traveling back and forth to Ul'dah every time. The same can be done with battlecraft and fieldcraft leves.

If I want to spend my 50 leve quests grinding pugilist in Nawana Mines I should be able to do so without the time-consuming step of travelling back and forth every 3 quests.

With the new system allowing focused leve usage and becoming what amounts to the equivilant of repeatable quests in every other MMORPG, the next step remains to add the convienience of this repeatable mechanic by removing travel and allowing on-location acceptance of leves.

Agree! I have a feeling this change will make it in eventually.

just do company leves as you can accept then right at the camp that the leve officer is located. You get more xp per kill from mobs, but the protect missions can get pretty difficult sometimes.

I could see this change being implemented. It's not like we can't just contact the AG via linkpearl like, "Did you send the goods? No? Send the goods. I'm on chocoback to the camp right now." It would certainly help legitimize the new binge-and-purge option of playstyle for leve-grinding, as well as make it a lot more user-friendly.

Great input; +1

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Originally Posted by dracos9000

just do company leves as you can accept then right at the camp that the leve officer is located. You get more xp per kill from mobs, but the protect missions can get pretty difficult sometimes.

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That's not really viable for crafting though

I do like OP's idea

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Originally Posted by dracos9000

just do company leves as you can accept then right at the camp that the leve officer is located. You get more xp per kill from mobs, but the protect missions can get pretty difficult sometimes.

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That works for battle classes, but trades are left in the cold. As someone who recently started slogging through DoL/H levels I know too well how much time is wasted on traveling for leves for those classes. Around 25, the exp returned just wasn't with the time investment.

Being able to just accept leves at the camp would make a world of difference.

Currently you can almost do this for in-town locals, but it's not quite balanced across classes. I can do WVR leves in Ul'dah almost indefinitely without leaving town, but I know my LTW won't get the same treatment in Gridania once I cap WVR. Shouldn't it be the same? Implementing this suggestion would, as a side benefit, make this more fair across DoH classes.

I like the idea OP.

I might actually do crafting leves with a change like this.

I believe this is kinda planned for the future. Yoshi remarked on something on the lines, not exactly sure where though.

Would be great to have. But.... You can set your hp in town. Choco or Tele out to the camps, return back to town. Really not that bad atm. I'm glad i can do more then 8 a day. Makes filling up the weekend time more enjoyable.

Definitely a good idea. Seeing DoL only get two Leves issued per run, is unbearable to run back and forth such a long distance.

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Originally Posted by Shyd

I believe this is kinda planned for the future. Yoshi remarked on something on the lines, not exactly sure where though.

Would be great to have. But.... You can set your hp in town. Choco or Tele out to the camps, return back to town. Really not that bad atm. I'm glad i can do more then 8 a day. Makes filling up the weekend time more enjoyable.

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Even if you return to your city and even if you set your camps to favored, the anima still runs out fairly quick. For my weaver leves I need to go to Bluefog to turn my leves in, and that's suicide even with a chocobo if I don't teleport. And then I still need to make my way back to horizon and drybone as well to hand in.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

I could see this change being implemented. It's not like we can't just contact the AG via linkpearl like, "Did you send the goods? No? Send the goods. I'm on chocoback to the camp right now." It would certainly help legitimize the new binge-and-purge option of playstyle for leve-grinding, as well as make it a lot more user-friendly.

Great input; +1

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Exactly. The changes made to the leve system were definately user-friendly, and looking ahead I think extending this trend would lessen the tediousness of grinding and possibly open some wallets. I think players enjoy challenging content, as opposed to a challenge of thier patience.

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Originally Posted by Nayt

Even if you return to your city and even if you set your camps to favored, the anima still runs out fairly quick. For my weaver leves I need to go to Bluefog to turn my leves in, and that's suicide even with a chocobo if I don't teleport. And then I still need to make my way back to horizon and drybone as well to hand in.

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I can get to Bluefog without problems. The only aggressive mobs are the vultures and they don't aggro quick enough, unless...are you going left after you leave those canyons? You can go around to the right. There's a tunnel through that narrow spot in the mountains just south/southeast of the camp.

in all fairness this is one of the better ideas i have seen latly on these forums, it would make such a nicer time lvling dol and doh and also dow/dom for obtaining marks. to do say a set of 10-15 leves which is only a couple days worth it takes on avaerage 20-30 anima depending on if you have favoured camps that in a casual sence is ide say average every couple days do this and lvl up get marks etc.. now on the other hand i can blow 100 anima doing this for a couple of lvls 40-50 for crafting to regain this anima take sooo long or i could spend a few hours traveling on choc back and forth to said camps...... or do what i actually do and have a second acount with a mule who just ports my ass all over.. when hes empty delet and make a new one rinse and repeat.

i am lucky in a way i have 2 accounts to do this i think if i didnt ide have died by now thru the huge time sinks which leves are.. there meant to be casual content after all... that being said, is not spamming 99 leves in one sitting at one camp perhaps a tad overkill also lol. the op's idea imo is golden, just needs some balance to stop full on abuse

posted the same thing here http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Idea-Bad-Idea also reposted this thread on there.

Hope this makes it to 2.0 or sooner man. Glad this thread got attention.

lol nice, I just asked for this exact same thing on the JP side yesterday lol

+1 to the OP

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Originally Posted by Fieros

Exactly. The changes made to the leve system were definately user-friendly, and looking ahead I think extending this trend would lessen the tediousness of grinding and possibly open some wallets. I think players enjoy challenging content, as opposed to a challenge of thier patience.

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This ^ pretty much sums it up.

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Originally Posted by dracos9000

just do company leves as you can accept then right at the camp that the leve officer is located. You get more xp per kill from mobs, but the protect missions can get pretty difficult sometimes.

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This is a workaround - not a fix. If they would implement a system for leve's on camp it would open up the variety of leve's that can be done. Not just for battlecraft. Also try to keep in mind of people that do leve's duo or in a group, that want the full exp bonus. It'd be better to pick up the leve's all together there, rather than have to tele spot to spot because of the different companies/ running back and forth from town to camp spots. It goes back to same issue, traveling becomes boring while you already want to be done with leve's.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

lol nice, I just asked for this exact same thing on the JP side yesterday lol

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Any juicy developments from the JP forums regarding this idea?

After near unanimous support yesterday my thread died due to getting relocated. Is it still being discussed over there?

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Originally Posted by Fieros

Any juicy developments from the JP forums regarding this idea?

After near unanimous support yesterday my thread died due to getting relocated. Is it still being discussed over there?

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Nothing yet, they posted that they are looking into ways to make it easier to exp for solo players at lower levels but not decided on what to modify/add -

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Rep response JP players got on their thread "Too hard to level up at lower levels"

Original Thread Link: http://goo.gl/iL5Fb

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Originally Posted by Triairy

皆さん、こんばんは。
Good evening everyone,

様々なフィードバックありがとうございます。色々な方向性から議論していただいていますが、「ソロでの低レベル帯のレベルが上がりにくい」という点に絞ってお話させてください。
Thanks for many feed backs, there is a lot of debate going on different direction but wanted to talk about the "Hard to level solo at low level"

パーティプレイを行った方が効率よくレベルをあげやすい傾向にあることは確かで、パーティが組み辛くソロでプレイしている方、そもそもソロプレイを楽しみたい方にとって、低レベル帯のレベル上げがしにくい状況も把握しています。
It's true that it's more effective to level faster when in party, but I do understand the situation for those that is having hard time making party and soloing for that reason, or those that wants to enjoy solo play and having hard time leveling at lower levels as well.

パッ チ1.19aでは低レベル帯のモンスターの強さの調整を行いましたが、今後も引き続き低レベル帯のレベルアップについては調整を行っていきます。具体的な 調整方法については、Nextを下げるのか、取得できる経験値を上げるのか、ギルドリーヴの経験値を上げるのか、それとも別の要素で対応するかなど様々な バランスをみながら対応策を検討していますので、今の時点でお答えすることができませんが、調整内容がわかり次第お伝えしていきます。
With patch 1.19a we adjusted the monsters strength and we will continue making adjustments for lower levels level ups. We are looking into general adjustment methods that being either lowering the Next, or increasing EXP gained, or gaining exp reward on guild leve, or include a different method; we have to look at different balancing to address this issue. We cannot answer at current time but once we have more details on adjustments we will let you know.

引き続き様々な視点からのフィードバックをいただけると幸いです。
Would appreciate if you can continue giving feedbacks from different perspective.

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Hey, at least we no longer need to walk 20 min around the map...

Some of the running around part is to help players familiarize themselves with the cities and surrounding regions, as well as learning who the varous NPCs are and what they do. Which is fine in the early levels, but becomes burdonsomely tedeous beyond say 10th. Particularly for those players who have not obtained their chocobo yet. There does seem to be a lack of cohesiveness for the deliveries tho. Very good point!

Looking forward to bigger and better... smarter... less trudgy 2.0

Hello,

I had to go through this, and actually did not mind the present system at all.

I was levelling Botany, so I would get only two leves at a time My destination was Camp Iron Lake, and the Leves were handed out in Limsa Lominsa.

My strategy was simple:
Save up till I was 99 Anima, and 99 Leves.
Home point in Camp Iron Lake
Teleport to Limsa Lominsa (2 anima), get leves, return to home point.

I was able to do 2 leves every 15 minutes.

Total cost per hour:
8 leves
8 anima
I did this for about 5 hours straight.

This came up to 40 leves and 40 anima.

I felt this was a fair price for some rapid levequesting and xp gain, and still had enough anima left over to go do some fun events with friends. I also enjoyed the part where I had to 'plan' how I wanted to spend my anima/leves, and the best way to do it.

(This is one of the few places in the game where there is some need to plan or use strategy so I was happy about it). I hope they do not simplify it further otherwise it will soon end up with:
Click this button to reach level 50.
Thank you.

I think that is a great idea. Running around would be lessened if once you completed a leveif they added a tab in the journal that was like a submit or deliver /turn in and boom its gone and xp is collected. That would be convenient and easily written into lore since the new teleport system its in the works. It also paves the way for mail delivery based on same technology.

I actually think the OP has the right idea, but only for DoH/DoL unless they decide to release more guildleves per aetheryte and give some scaleability like they've done for battleclasses.

I think the simplest, lore friendly way to fix this would be to have the camp leader (I cant remember the official title) at every camp hand out all the leves that have to be delivered to that camp and the outlying gates.