Pax east is having the "I killed Sephirot" fight. Last year was shiva and that fight was very easy compared to this one. Dose anyone else think this might be a tad to hard for players who have never touched the game be for? And give off a bad feel for players wanting to give the game a chance?
Last year I did shiva with a group of players who have never looked at the game be for and we me and my husband carried it as healer and tank while they were all frozen tot he sides. Im worried that this fight might be a tad to hard for this player base.
Any tips to help players like this? or should they have kept it Ravana for this event?
Pax East Fight.
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04-22-2016, 11:41 PMsilverhopePax East Fight.
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04-22-2016, 11:56 PMRagology
I haven't tried Seph yet, but if it looks pretty then that's probably why it was chosen.
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04-23-2016, 01:53 AMCanadane
It's always been a modified version of the fights.
Even if they did straight up HM fight, it's completely doable.
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04-23-2016, 02:36 AMMaikoRaines
I did the Ravana fight at Prime in Seattle and it was basically unsync'd HM fight with decked out level 60 characters. I imagine it'll be much of the same. I wish I was in PAX East... I collect the Pinny's and I really want that Teemo pin they're giving out at the Riot booth.
I'm ranting... -_-;; -
04-23-2016, 02:43 AMWarlyxbut sephi is already 60 content , i dont even remember how is the fight in HM :S did it only once....Quote:
Originally Posted by MaikoRaines
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04-23-2016, 02:51 AMMilesSaintboroguhHow different are the fights compared to the normal and EX versions?Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
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04-23-2016, 02:54 AMLucentLagombi
It's a shame it isn't extreme, would certainly make it more rewarding for those who clear it. Though, it'd be unlikely that anyone who hasn't already cleared it on their own time would.
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04-23-2016, 02:58 AMsilverhopewaiting 2 hours to even get to the fight just to die cuz other people have not played the game and cant possibly kill ex would be horrible for pressQuote:
Originally Posted by LucentLagombi
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04-23-2016, 04:50 AMsilverhope
If anyone has gone today to pax east let us know how it went? did alot of people get the shirts?
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04-23-2016, 04:59 AMDerio
Horrible Idea. Unless there is someone there to explain the fight to them. DF groups sadly still fail at this trial. I think they should have used a different one.
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04-23-2016, 05:05 AMWhocareswhatmynameis
If people lose, they just need Yoshi P to stand there with a sign...
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04-23-2016, 05:12 AMsilverhope
lol. but these are 80% players who dont even play the game.. Promoting it. I think Seph is to hard for this group.
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04-23-2016, 10:38 AMOphie-Mio
As someone who went to the last one with Ravana, I can say that the fights are a modified version of the HM. It's slightly harder but all the gear is usually casual level top notch gear. The characters are all decked out and the fight itself is made for newbies and veterans alike.
I watched people walk away with brand new people on the team and a shirt saying that it wasn't too bad. On top of that, the groups are given additional chances if the SE employees see that they have a solid way to finish. I remember watching one group have three goes of it before the SE peeps had to call it for them and they left without shirts. Even then, you're more than welcome to try again.
AND! If there are experienced people on the team, they are also able to call out to each other what to do next. A newbie usually can have an SE employee also come over and help them out with the basic controls. They give the people every chance to succeed.
When asked as well, the Ravana fight had about an 85% clear rate. Most groups got it and at HM level, Ravana and Sephirot are no different than each other. Nothing that can't be learned in one fight.
The people will be fine.
Now talk to me about the one E3 where they accidentally had Levi EX running the first day and barely anyone walked away with a shirt.
And that isn't true at all. The majority of all people who were in that line were all huge SE fanatics who were happy to talk about their enjoyment of the expansion. It was rare that someone with zero experience came into the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhope
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04-23-2016, 02:30 PMJeykamalol about that, actually ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis
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04-23-2016, 09:59 PMsilverhopehahaha thats to funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeykama
anyone go to pax easy yesterday and try the fight out? -
04-24-2016, 09:36 PMCaptJOLLY
So, it was pretty crazy easy. Nerfed version of the story/hm version. Half knockback, no debuffs from adds, pretty much the only thing that can kill you for sure is falling off or not going up with the storm.
You also have i229, full lore except a 220 prototype ring.
I even saw a pretty noob group lose 5 people to falling and still manage a clear, just took a while.
I can understand why they make it so easy but it would be nice to have some kind of challenge too. -
04-24-2016, 09:54 PMAramyth
My wife and I play PLD and WHM. We carried a group of 5 guys who didn't know how to play too and one guy who was a good SCH. It can be done as long as enough people know what to do. The guys we were with knew how to kill the wind Sprite and that as enough.
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04-25-2016, 10:59 AMEulAt least it's not thordan... I still have anxiety to fight him even I've cleared it many times. Sephirot still "easy" for me compared with thordan.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhope
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04-25-2016, 03:42 PMOphie-Mio
See? Easily clearable even for noobs. As was said.
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04-25-2016, 04:19 PMFoxyAreku
It should be hard, that way the shirt actually means something, imo.
Maybe slightly easier than the in-game trial itself (which I imagine it is), but really that fight isn't much harder than shiva unless you're a klutz and walk off the edge. -
04-25-2016, 06:38 PMLaerune
Seph might be hard, but at Gamescom last year I got Ramuh as trial and atleast 6 of the players (one was cosplayed as Minfilia, so I reckon she is familiar with FFXIV) were newcomers. The character had ilvl 130 ironworks gear. We even got a bonus mode where they removed the HP plate from the partymembers and we still cleared him.
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04-27-2016, 11:40 AMFailiaIt was, I was there =)Quote:
Originally Posted by Laerune
Except for the damage being about half or less to what he normal did, the mechanics were essentially the same which can be what snag people. Friend in my FC tried to clear it twice on Saturday with groups of newbies and he wiped both times and didn't get through. We then took in our FC and face rolled over it (even with me on my monk and my rotations all messed up because I didn't have my optimal load out and with us having some members that hadn't done it themselves).
All in all, it was fun. We were watching some groups while we were waiting in queue and it was totally cringe worthy (like tanks not in tank stance at all so he was just roaming all over the arena). Saw 1 guy rage quit because he kept spamming medica 2 over and over and grabbed agro and died. That and they didn't kill the wind at the back in time and it wiped everyone.