Please bring this in for every PVP mode.
Level 1-9
Level 10-19
Level 20-29
Level 30-39
Level 40-49
Level 50-59
Level 60
WoW has this and it makes for very interesting games, especially when you get a game and no one has mounts and a lot less abilities.
People who PVP don't want to be bottlenecked into one PVP mode. The Secure and Slaughter modes are just as good as Seal Rock. Wolves Den needs to be available to lower level players.
For Wolves Den maybe remove the role restriction. Just have 4v4 and ignore all roles, just a quick way to get in and PVP.
But first, could we please get a level 60 version of those PVP modes?
Level Brackets for ALL Frontlines + PVP Modes
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04-21-2016, 10:48 AMChiramuLevel Brackets for ALL Frontlines + PVP Modes
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04-21-2016, 11:22 AMMrPresident
I'm not sure what you mean honestly. And if you mean what I think you do, I don't think it would be very good. Level 1 Frontlines with just Stone and Ruin would be a chore.
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04-21-2016, 11:54 AMSynestra
Would be cool if we could levelup via PvP, then i might actually level all jobs to max.
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04-21-2016, 12:02 PMExira
I'd rather they focus on meaningful pvp than low level 3 skill pvp
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04-21-2016, 12:48 PMIsalaI was so disappointed when I got to level 30 Wolves Den, back when that was a thing, and it gave me the tiniest sliver of EXP imaginable. I would have gotten more from killing a single mob my level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Synestra
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04-21-2016, 01:55 PMAramyth
Forget level ranges. Sync people to 60 and bolster them with s bit of extra stats to make up for missing skills.
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04-21-2016, 02:00 PMIsalaThat actually worked quite well in SWTOR in the beginning. Then they tweaked with it, and it got wonky... To the point where a naked character had more stats than someone in endgame gear. But they had two brackets. One was, I think... 10? or 15, to level cap minus 1, and then there was level capped PvP. Worked brilliantly. I used to wreck face no matter what level I was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aramyth
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04-21-2016, 03:10 PMRenault
Yes because nothing is more fun and exciting than getting 1 shot by someones low level twink.
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04-21-2016, 05:08 PMIsalaEven provided they screw up the balance to the point that's possible, which, I'm not saying they honestly won't. I mean... Not exactly the most spotless of track records... The joys of the Armory system means that you could just as easily make a twink too, unless you're already all 60, in which case, you wouldn't be in the twink bracket anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renault
Either way, would more PvP options really be a bad thing? Give us a... let's call it 20-59 bracket, and give a sizeable amount of EXP for it, say, a third of a dungeon's worth? It would give leveling players another option besides the mindless dungeon slog, or a mindless Fate/Leve slog for their alt classes. Just require completion of "My Little Chocobo", so that nobody gets shafted by not having a mount for Frontline, even the brand new players, and go from there. It's not like it can split the PvP community any more, since it's not like they were queuing for 60 content by leveling an alt anyway, and it might draw more people into the 60 stuff once they get that high. -
04-21-2016, 05:18 PMRenaultNo, personally I would love it. I would actually level a second character, I think. I just think that this feature is a pipe dream currently, and is a fun thing to dream about at most. Right now, I just think the PVP scene is far too infantile to consider putting what little PVP development time we have into a system like this. Also, there is no doubt in my mind that the feature would be implemented poorly and be very exploitable to an extent that people would just not do it, which sort of stems from that twink comment I made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isala
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04-21-2016, 05:48 PMIsalaIt's the whole chicken and the egg problem, though. The PvP scene is infantile because there's not enough enjoyable PvP to bring in people. But because it doesn't bring in people, they don't make more PvP. What they have is a start... But they really didn't bring any of it up to 60, so only a few modes give relevant rewards. The Fold died because of Secure, and later Slaughter. Secure/Slaughter died because of Seize. Seize has died, because the Feast is GC free, and you don't have god awful queues, just for being on the popular GC. But Feast itself gives you only a few choices. You can do the clown fiesta that is 8v8, or you can hop into 4v4, and end up with angry players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renault
None of this is attractive to any but the most hardcore PvPers... or those looking for easy Esos, but that's a whole other can of worms. So we don't bring in the new players. As such, there's no focus on it, so no new modes to bring in the new players... So there's no focus...
If SE would actually create PvP that was worthwhile, even for the most casual of PvPers, then we could attract enough players to make PvP more than an afterthought. But, we don't have that attraction, so we go back to "Nobody PvPs." When in reality, even in a game like this, there are PvPers, they just don't want to do our current state of PvP. -
04-22-2016, 01:50 AMBlubbers
I like the idea of being able to level up via PvP and play at any level, but given what I've seen in wolves den having many different options to queue just split the population and made queue times ridiculous. It's a difficult problem to solve, one option could be scale everyone to max level in all PvP modes and give them access to all abilities. This obviously also has its problems, but it would solve the issue of queue times and would allow people to more easily swap around as different jobs.
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04-22-2016, 09:05 AMChiramuI guess the SWTOR solution would be best for FFXIV cause of the "smaller" PVP community :/. Rankings also would be nice to not be limited to The Feast as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blubbers