Hi all.
I have 2 questions:
1) Has Yoshi-P mentioned anything about lifetime subscriptions, once we have to start paying? I'd rather pay a full cost upfront personally.
2) I haven't seen Yoshi-P or the devs mention anything explicitly saying that we will be able to change our names once the new races arrive (Race, appearance, etc has been mentioned but not name changes). I just want to make sure this will be an option. Anyone seen anything?
Lifetime subscription & Changing name clarification
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10-25-2011, 11:44 AMzhuge_liangLifetime subscription & Changing name clarification
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10-25-2011, 11:51 AMEsk
Not seen anything.
Again no, to redo our looks as the Engine is new, So things will be different.
But I've seen nothing one names, and personally would prefer it not to happen or at least have a way to tell who the person was before. -
10-25-2011, 11:55 AMWinterclaw
If they do lifetime subs it'll probably cost you $200 if cryptic is any clue. Plus SE charges per character which will add another layer of complexity for figuring out lifetime sub fees.
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10-25-2011, 12:01 PMBaxter
i dont forsee them allowing lifetime subs. 200 bucks is just 45 bucks shy of a years subscription. Also the fact you can buy as much crysta as you desire. So I guess technically you could buy as much as you want
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10-25-2011, 03:03 PMSeif
I'd rather pay lifetime now than monthly fees for an unfinished game. Se would get money and player commitment right away and I'd get to play when I want to. Seems like a win-win situation to me. Price probably should be higher than 200 though.
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10-25-2011, 04:02 PMEstellios
99% sure if they are letting us "Remake our character" that includes names. Some people picked names based on whatever race/gender they were currently and would be boned if they couldn't change the name.
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10-25-2011, 04:20 PMweebleerm wtf you talking about lol. even at 12bucks a month for a year that is 144buck a years, in 2years you would almost pay for it. in 3years your making out. i played ffxi for 5years so i'd be happy to buy a lifetime plan, fact it might be the only few ways they can get me to pay and play for the next year. i think your doing the math wrong or i just don't get the rocket science your spewing.Quote:
Originally Posted by MariyaShidou
but also i have not played another mmo since ffxi for more then a year, they don't live up to it and i can't see any other game hold me down like that. i defenetly don't see ffxiv at it's state now or possibly in 2013 doing the same so i might be worried bout paying 300bucks up front to them. but i'm still for them adding this option to the very least the players who have been playing threw the crap with them. -
10-25-2011, 04:40 PMShneibel15 x 12 = 180$Quote:
Originally Posted by MariyaShidou
299 + 10% = 328,8 = 329$
329 / 180 = 1,82 = 1 year 8 months
I dont see the reason for play 11 years to pay out for the life time subscription but 2 years. -
10-25-2011, 04:45 PMTibian
I'd actually be more receptive to a lifetime subscription plan RIGHT NOW, rather than pay for beta till next year. They could easily sway it off at $300 bucks and say it is a gift option for loyal players. Not only would it generate some interest in the game, but it would quell a lot of anger and distrust right now towards SE.
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10-25-2011, 04:53 PMMariyaShidouThere is a concept call time value of money. Have you ever had a loan/term deposit? They have this component called interest. Your $1 now worth more than $1 in 10 years, by paying upfront $299 you need to get back that $299 worth in 10.8 years time. It would be cool if everyone think like you ;) I would just borrow $100 from everyone and put them in a bank saving account, then pay you back exactly $100 after 10 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shneibel
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10-25-2011, 05:04 PMShneibel
299$ + 10% + 10%+ 10% + 10%+ 10% + 10%+ 10% + 10%+ 10% + 10% = 775,5 (10% interest/year)
(15$ x 12) x 10,8 = 1944$
And I dont think the game company is the bank. if you pay 300$ it will be 300$ -
10-25-2011, 05:15 PMMariyaShidouThere are a few (well not a few things) you forgot to take into your calculation:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shneibel
Most interest rates are now compounded monthly or even daily, your calculation is not even compounded at all.
$15 represent payment per month, think Home Loan, every $15 you repay on the $300 loan does not equal to $15 principal, it's principal + interest = $15. Why do you think most loans are 15+ years?
The game company is a business. A bank is also a business. So you think you pay money to SE, where is that money going to? They get reinvest to make more money. Maybe you don't care that your money get reinvested ;) but most of us do, even the billionaires do.
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10-25-2011, 05:19 PMShneibelguess that s why they are billionaires ? and you re right, I dont care what SE do with the money I pay them, all I care is find a way to pay less and I got the most out of it from my side. If I DO care about the money I pay for SE for gaming, I ll better stop gaming and get a better use of those 12$/month.Quote:
Originally Posted by MariyaShidou
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10-25-2011, 05:25 PMMariyaShidou
Nvm my calculation is way off >_> forget it.
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10-25-2011, 05:32 PMDarte
Lifetime subs are usually a way to get more money from the customer if they aren't sure if the game will remain viable for many years to come. Even with the rocky start, I doubt SE will provide a lifetime option, simply because they can get more money in the long run through monthly subscriptions.
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10-26-2011, 05:52 AMNabiri1. Lifetime? D: Must be rich or something.. XDQuote:
Originally Posted by zhuge_liang
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Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida
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10-26-2011, 05:57 AMQuanta$200 + $10 per additional slot, maybe? Also, it's possible they might change their billing method such that you aren't paying extra for character slots, which would be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw
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10-26-2011, 06:10 AMgrandm
surely a lifetime sub would be the lifetime of the game. and i'm sure i heard they expect it to be up and running for 10 years. so it would cost you 10 years worth of subs :P
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10-26-2011, 07:57 AMzhuge_liang
I think a limited-offer lifetime sub would draw in more people and be a compromise to many people who feel annoyed they are paying for less than a complete game (I'm not annoyed myself but I know alot of people are). SE could offer the lifetime sub option for maybe a month or so, and then drop it, allowing them to guarantee monthly income from players who join later. Personally, I think it would be a nice gesture to everyone who has stuck with the game from launch.
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10-26-2011, 08:11 AMAenarionheh yea, for your calc. to be right, you'd have to be charging some serious interest that would put mafia loan sharks to shame :PQuote:
Originally Posted by MariyaShidou