Selene/ Eos AI

Its really annoying how the SCH fairy will sit there and auto cast embrace on the target with the lowest HP!
Please SE can you adjust the steady command so that the fairy will only cast embrace on command?
This would be so helpful in certain end game raid and give more flexibility to the SCH role.
Of course in any other stance the fairy can resume the auto cast AI.:confused:
Anyone think this a good idea??

The way it works right now is fine. If the party is close to dying, having to order embrace every three seconds in addition to slamming your emergency heals would get incredibly tedious incredibly quickly.

The fairy's embrace isnt meant to be something you rely on for everything. It is just meant to be a helpful type of "regen" that helps heal the party when people other than the tank are taking damage or just a bit of help keeping the tank up when the tank is taking damage.

Embrace doesnt need to be controlled and SCH works very well without it being such. Having to use it on command only would defeat its purpose even if it is just for one stance

I can see having her being able to "Lock" to a target being a viable mode, since embrace is basically just a HoT with a body. I think full manual probably has a narrow audience and leaves more room to cause error than it allows people to gain in flexibility.

Of course there are only particular instances where this would come in handy. But having the option to manually control embrace would be nice.
The autocast really does work well for most cases. However sometimes i just want to focus heals to the off tank especially when mechanics dictate that he/she is out of my range but with in a placed fairy's range. I dont see any reason not to have this option especially when the other stance are available. It would expand the sch toolkit with out any interference with the current design or overpowering the job itself.

You can already do this wtf are you talking about lol

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Originally Posted by Farroe

Of course there are only particular instances where this would come in handy. But having the option to manually control embrace would be nice.
The autocast really does work well for most cases. However sometimes i just want to focus heals to the off tank especially when mechanics dictate that he/she is out of my range but with in a placed fairy's range. I dont see any reason not to have this option especially when the other stance are available. It would expand the sch toolkit with out any interference with the current design or overpowering the job itself.

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Then just have a lock stance. Dont need to manually control embrace but tell the fairy to only heal this person. Problem solved without needing the hassle of pressing embrace every other spell

But it is something you rely on it. The fairy is part of of what defines the scholar as a job. Embrace is a 300 potency heal every few seconds. With rouse it might as well act as an off hand cure 1. I dont know about you but I would like to dictate where this healing potency is going more effectively . So I dont see how it "defeats" the purpose rather than utilize it better, eapecially when you can swap stances mid combat.

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Originally Posted by Sir_Hermes

You can already do this wtf are you talking about lol

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If you drop below 80% or a party member drops below 70% (I believe those are the values but it doesn't matter) Lilly will start embracing. Say you're about to deal with a tank buster and want to precast embrace to help the WHM out, but you're at 79% health because of aoes. You can't command her to switch targets even using a Pet Stop macro because she'll keep trying to heal you.

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Originally Posted by Farroe

But it is something you rely on it. The fairy is part of of what defines the scholar as a job. Embrace is a 300 potency heal every few seconds. With rouse it might as well act as an off hand cure 1. I dont know about you but I would like to dictate where this healing potency is going more effectively . So I dont see how it "defeats" the purpose rather than utilize it better, eapecially when you can swap stances mid combat.

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At 60 its potency is 200. Rouse elevates it to almost 300. but yes I could understand making her Steady shutting off her AI completely and guard to heal as it does now with embrace under AI. No Idea why it hasnt been done yet.

Just to set the record straight, the threshold is 80% for self, Eos, or party members. If you are below 80%, she will heal you regardless of everyone else's percentage. If you are above 80%, she will heal the lowest % party member in range (which btw is only 21y for auto casting last I tested it).

I personally think it works well as is. Honestly, it was a much bigger deal at level 50. They nerfed off about 1/3 of your faerie's healing potency with level scaling formula to 60 so Embrace is equivalent to 200 instead of 300 at 60.

I would like a target lock option and a higher HP threshold for auto-Embrace. If the health bar is at 80% and the cast begins it will be lower once the heal takes effect and it won't heal the person to full. The fairy produces so little aggro that free overhealing would not be an issue. Make it something like 95%.

I fail to see the problem. My fairies are there to help, not read my mind. However, I can understand how the AI works and essentially read their minds. If Eos/Selene prioritize based on which party member has the lowest HP, then you know exactly where embrace is going. All you need to do is heal someone else.

I hear a lot of people complaining about the fairy AI, and maybe I still need to get higher to establish my own gripes. But as of now, both of them have saved my ass on more than one occasion thanks to that lovely auto cure. Anytime Eos/Selene has done something non-beneficial resulting in something like an over-heal, not healing, or wasting a long CD ability, I've put the blame on myself.

Have you tried a macro that spams several embraces on a single target?

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Originally Posted by Farroe

Its really annoying how the SCH fairy will sit there and auto cast embrace on the target with the lowest HP!
Please SE can you adjust the steady command so that the fairy will only cast embrace on command?
This would be so helpful in certain end game raid and give more flexibility to the SCH role.
Of course in any other stance the fairy can resume the auto cast AI.:confused:
Anyone think this a good idea??

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I would like an option to customize her AI as well, and to manually set priorities.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

I would like an option to customize her AI as well, and to manually set priorities.

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Thats allot of love to give to one class. ._. I think the OPs suggestion is reasonable. The current AI is there to help you when everything is hitting the fan and still has you be active by healing with her above 80%. I could see how amazing your option would be though.

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

Thats allot of love to give to one class. ._. I think the OPs suggestion is reasonable. The current AI is there to help you when everything is hitting the fan and still has you be active by healing with her above 80%. I could see how amazing your option would be though.

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Honestly, I don't think it is that unreasonable to adjust the AI. It's not like it would make her OP, just give us more control. I could set it that I'd prefer her to heal the tank > DPS > me, as I can heal myself - or whatever. I could set the threshold to 85% instead of 80% just because. It's not like her healing potency would skyrocket.